Three Michigan State Players Officially Named, Charged
The three Michigan State players involved in the alleged sexual assault from January have been named and officially charged. The players are Josh King, Donnie Corley and Demetrius Vance. Story below.
http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2017/06/06/sexual-a…
If content going around Twitter this AM is true, then these players are going to jail. There is no room for jokes. These guys not only ruined a young woman's life, but their own.
Good for him.
Eh, I think you can give credit for how he approached the Title IX investigation, but not this. Kicking these guys off the team after they are charged with crimed of this magnitude is the absolute bare minimum of what needed to be done. If the same situation happened at any other school, and the guys were not kicked off the team, the coach should and probably would be fired.
Has officially kicked all the players off of the team.
making some reasonable guesses about what they call the PRV (prior record varaibles, which will almost certainly be 0 for these kids) and the OV's (offense variables, tricky here)
CSC 1 - they are an A-III sentencing grid - 42-70 months minimum with the upper term always being 'life'.
CSC 3 - straddle cells, meaning it would be possible for them not to be sentenced to state prison and get some level of county jail up to a year, but could get 10-15 yr max. unlikely, but possible.
sentencing guidelines are no longer mandatory though, only advisory, so a judge could do much more or less if s/he felt like it.
That's not what anyone should really be focused on right now.
If I'm Mork, I also kick Copeland (who I think is leaving) and Demetrius Cooper off the team for their issues.
If they really want to clean house, do it the right way.
Truly disturbing. I hope they all get what they deserve.
After several months of waiting, the public now has a better idea of the severity of this tragedy.
Still think it's a tragedy for the victim that she had to wait 5 months for these charges. There is video evidence for godsakes.
evidence and then had the MSP computer forensic team do some analysis of seized devices. add on the time it takes to get info from cell carriers even with a warrant (they are the worst) and i can now see how/why it took so long.
-Freamon
Yeah I'm not a legal expert so I'm not sure the specifics on why such things take so long. I did read that over 100 people were interviewed, etc. I feel like they did a comprehensive investigation.
What I really feel bad for is when her name has to go public. Terrible.
i see where you are coming from but for the victim i assure you a much greater tragedy would be a prosecutor rushing to trial and not getting a conviction and her seeing her attackers go free. again assuming they are in fact guilty, thats up to the courts though.
Agreed. There was a lot of impatience here but these things can take time, and it is evident that the right things are happening. Everything that people were clamoring for here (officially naming names, sporadic leaks of evidence without context, premature bans from the team) are things that other institutions have done and gotten in big trouble for.
These players did not play a single down of football. They are not skating without trial. They are not getting their identities covered up.
Who cares if it's two months or four?
The Freep's report (I know, I know). OMG this is terrifying.
An absolute shame. MSU is holding a press conference at 12:30pm.
From all the information I've gathered, I believe they handled this appropriately (sans Curtis Blackwell who's contract was not renewed last week).
It says the conducted over 100 interviews and spent 1,500 hours on the investigation so I would assume they were making sure all their i's were dotted and t's crossed even though they probably knew within the first 10 interviews that charges would be coming eventually
Donnie Corley is a pretty big name for them. Yikes...
Didn't Corley already transfer???
I don't know, actually. You should search Twitter and report your findings to us.
Yeah, in instances like this, our first instinct should always be to find "rumors on Twitter," which are confirmed to be the most accurate sources of information available.
The combination of "wants to hear dirty, unconfirmed, salacious, and possibly 100% false details" and "wants someone else to look them up for him" is pretty fucking low-class.
That response seems...excessive.
I agree with the assessment that the immediate coaching staff, save Blackwell, handled everything properly. However, coupled with the other stuff across the athletic program, there is too much being unearthed at the same time. It's certainly not Baylor, but Hollis and the President need to be looked at very closely. The overall culture and attitude is what allows stuff like this to happen in large numbers.
i really hope this girl gets justice she deserves in this and this doesn't go sideways like the horrible outcome that Stanford case had.
Mork did everything right, but this is just another poor reflection on Hollis
IF this happened as stated in that article, that is awful. What an awful thing to do to someone, and what a stupid way to throw away your fucking life.
Also, 1500 hours of investigation??? Jesus
back in the day we used to say (kiddingly!), 'convicting the guilty ones is easy, its getting the innocent ones that takes some work'.
I have to say that MSU seemed to handle this case appropriately. We can speculate all we want about the motives for doing so, but it is hard to deny that they handled this in a competent manner. I don't believe that this is a systemic issue like it was at Baylor, I think it was just 3 men doing something despicable to another human being. This is not a point fingers and laugh at the university type situation. The men who orchestrated and committed this alleged crime deserve everything that will come their way. 2 of the accused had very promising careers ahead of them and it is all gone, and I believe they have lost the privilege to ever play college football again.
I guess I was speaking more in terms of the University and its administration. They seem to have been transparent with both the LPD and Title IX investigators. As I said, if this was pre-Baylor, or pre-Title IX investigating the basketball program, I don't know if they would have been this transparent. Now, I can't speak to the culture of the football program. It could be that the culture and mindset has led to behavior like this to be accepted or (hopefully not) encouraged. However, no school, no matter how good the coach or honor code is, is immune to incidents like this happening regarding football players. We have had our fair share of cases (Gibbons, LTT, Perry) that all in some way or another involve sexual misconduct.
Have been dismissed from MSU.
MSU is broken.
A Tressel guy putting winning ahead of integrity and everything else? Nooooooooo. I'm SHOCKED.
His authority should be looked at, at least questioned. I know he is not the actual person doing the bad things and he can't personally watch over all the players. But he is the CEO, it is his responsibility to set the tone and character of the team. In business, if a company fails the CEO doesn't get to escape blame.
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