OT - wow Aaron Hernandez kills himself
Sad product of Urban Meyer.
with Hernandez; obvs. Urban didn't kill anyone. But I was living in Gainesville at the tail end of his tenure there, and the narrative definitely DID involve the young man getting away with atrocious stuff. It's not unreasonable to assume that help then, real consequences then, might have brought a different outcome. . . not just for Hernandez.
the lawyer/firm that represented all the players that got in to trouble in Gainseville during Meyer's tenor - They called him the "defensive coordinator"
And on a day many former teammates will be going to a house that shall not be mentioned.
Meh.
April 19th, 2017 at 10:07 AM ^
And a picture of a cow jumping over a Honeybaked ham.
April 19th, 2017 at 10:39 AM ^
of Andrew Jackson.
I just can't see this as something that should make my day sad. I get that our younger days clearly set the path we'll go down, but there are too many stories of people that pulled themselves out of bad situations. It's about choices. He kept making poor ones, and I don't feel bad that he made another poor one. Save on some prison expenses, anyway...
He was in a single-person cell; and according to the reports this morning, he had evidently tried to block the door from the inside using items available within the room.
So you're saying it was the perfect prison murder?
April 19th, 2017 at 10:06 AM ^
I don't watch much TV, but it's not inconceivable that something else happened contrary to the reports. I believe things probably happen in prison that the public isn't made aware of, and this could be one of those. However, I don't particularly care what happened in this case, so I'm going to start considering my lunch options.
April 19th, 2017 at 10:16 AM ^
If there's not one in your area, start one of your own. Then you can have free Blimpie Subs whenever you want.
April 19th, 2017 at 10:34 AM ^
There used to be 2-3 in Toledo, but all of them closed about 5 years ago and had forgotten about it until now...thanks for re-opening the wound. So tasty.
April 19th, 2017 at 10:21 AM ^
He enabled Hernandez early on when maybe this behavior could be stopped
I don't celebrate anyone's suicide, but it's not lost on my that Hernandez is hardly a sympathetic character. I could never quite tell if it was that he could not shake off the shitty "friends" of his youth and needed to "keep it real" or if he trended sociopathic.
In any event, his life story seems like a Greek tragedy. Sad for his victims, his victims' families, and his family. What a fucking waste.
oh, the rich irony in a dark situation.
kidding aside, your comment re: greek tragedy is spot on. very sad all the way around.
April 19th, 2017 at 10:02 AM ^
Greek tragedies are overblown, melodramatic, and distract our attention. The tragedy is that many kids who grow up with gangs and in slums never get the breaks and chances Hernandez got. Hernandez got many breaks and chances. The tragedy is that the wrong person got them, and some other kid who would have made better use of them is stuck in some shitty job in some shitty slum.
April 19th, 2017 at 10:21 AM ^
100. That is the true "tragedy"
April 19th, 2017 at 10:09 AM ^
Out of curiousity, when did his connection with "shitty friends of his youth" begin? I thought I read somewhere that he was fairly decent until his father died when he was like 17. Did his history with bad decision-making start before that?
At least he died doing what he loved.
Please tell me you didn't steal this line. It's brilliant!
Reminds me of Norm MacDonald's line about saying something nice about Hitler: "Well, at least he killed Hitler."
Anyway, well-played.
I can't believe my most upvoted comment is about suicide. It absolutely kills me.
April 19th, 2017 at 10:02 AM ^
my favorite comment that I have seen in a long, long time. I don't even care if you lifted it from somewhere, just a big thank you for making me chuckle while reading about an overall terrible situation.
April 19th, 2017 at 10:26 AM ^
+1 for you
Murderer, gang banger, ,coward, suicide...He was not a good human being. God will send him where he needs to go. Let it go. He did the least possible with the gifts that he was given. He did nothing good for anyone. He only hurt people and himself. He was selfish.
April 19th, 2017 at 12:16 PM ^
Wonder if the three who negged you are the same three who negged me. Really makes you wonder. You are spot on my man!.
of what happened to the Craigslist Killer
But can we stop with the Urban Meyer crap. I know this is a UM board but to attach blame to Urban on this is stupid. He was obviously a pycho who no-one could help. He was also on the Patroits for 2 years, So do we also blame Kraft & Belichick.
April 19th, 2017 at 10:36 AM ^
well, it was said the only reason they signed Timmy Tebow a few years ago was because he had been an influence on Hernandez while at UF and that Belicheat and company were concerned about off field behavior.
So it would seem they were aware of the smoke before the fire. And Urbs oversaw 45 arrests on his watch as HC for the gators.
not likely that anyone could have stopped the murderous thug, but seems like there was awareness of his tendency towards bad decisions and criminal leanings.
Watching ESPN this morning and they led with this story (obviously) as soon as it broke at 7:00am. They had a long interview with Schefter and if you didnt know better you'd swear Hernandez was somehow the victim in this situaion and his suicide was the sad outcome of a person who simply a product of horrible circumstances he couldnt overcome.
He described the situation as "tragic" and said (paraphrasing here) that "no matter how hard Hernandez tried to escape his demons he was always dragged back into the gang life" which is complete and utter bullshit. There is 0.0 evidence that Hernandez tried to "escape" anything associated with thug life, rather he embraced it and ran TOWARDS it, not away.
Fuck him. Sorry he's a cold-blooded killer who executed two men for the crime of spilling a drink on him (sorry jury - you got it wrong) and then killed the one man who knew about it to keep him quiet.
April 19th, 2017 at 11:07 AM ^
ESPN just wants viewers. This is a dreamy controversial subject that they can flog all day.
Just makes me glad they're hemorrhaging subs
The only thing that bothers me about the whole thing is that he had a 4 year old baby girl. Otherwise, there will be no tears shed from me.
April 19th, 2017 at 10:20 AM ^
sure seems this will probably be in the 4 yr old's best interest. The whole "a child needs a father" thing is 100% true; but it has to be the right father, not just "a" father.
"When juries start convicting people of murder based on that flimsy of evidence, look out."
Hahahaha, what? Juries have been convicting people of all sorts of crimes based on flimsy evidence for centuries.
April 19th, 2017 at 10:38 AM ^
I mean... jeebus. Seriously?
Look at the Washington Post front page. Right next to the Aaron Hernandez story, I mean RIGHT next to it, is the story of the Groveland Four Rape case, when 4 innocent black men were convicted (three of them) or killed (one, by a mob). LINK Or go look at the work of the Innocence Project. This shit happens every day in this country. Always has.
Innocent people get convicted, locked up for decades, and executed on far less evidence than the unreliable witness in Hernandez's most recent trial.