maizenbluedevil

November 29th, 2016 at 7:33 PM ^

I came to the opposite conclusion. If they wanted us in, they would've ranked us 4th this week which would've been a very justified position and not painted them in a corner bc they could still have Washington jump us in final rankings if they win in their ccg while we sit at home.

If anything it's a strategic pick for them because it gives them wiggle room to either have us jump Washington in case they lose or have the b1g winner jump us.



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Ghost of Fritz…

November 29th, 2016 at 7:56 PM ^

It does leave them maximum flexibility in case Wisconsin totally blows out Penn State.

At the same time they did keep talking about how it is really a question of Washington or Michigan, with the difference between the two razor thin. 

I believe they have correctly shut the door on Penn State. 

Fact is Michigan and OSU are the two top team in the Big Ten.  If Wisconsin jumps Michigan it will take a blowout win over PSU.

 

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Ty Butterfield

November 29th, 2016 at 7:17 PM ^

Will probably end up 5th in the final rankings just before the bowl games as the ultimate dong punch. Committee is just fucking with us.

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somewittyname

November 29th, 2016 at 8:08 PM ^

You can make a case for Wisconsin. They won @ Iowa and played us close in the big house. They lost to OSU in OT. And they would have neutral-ish field wins over LSU and PSU. That coupled with a conference championship, and I think the committee will definitely bump Wisconsin up. PSU I don't know. Clearly their resume would be worse but I don't trust the committee.

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Yeoman

November 30th, 2016 at 12:48 AM ^

If Wisconsin wipes the field with Penn State like they did with Nebraska four years ago or like OSU did with Wiscy two years ago, they move up. But I don't think a close win trumps the H2H result.

And I think PSU is out. You can lose a couple of games and still be national champion. But has any national champion ever lost a game by 39? I'm having trouble coming up with a loss by more than 14.

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MichiganTeacher

November 29th, 2016 at 8:31 PM ^

I think this is the case. The committee wants us in; it's good to be huge and rich.

I think they feel obligated to have Washington above us, but they're pulling hard for Colorado.

The Washington-Colorado match up is an interesting one. Both lost to USC. Arugably Colorado played better, losing closely away, while Washington lost at home. But the Washington game was after USC was well into its improvement trajectory; the Colorado game was earlier. In the coaching department, I give more than an edge to Washington. I'm glad Petersen doesn't have a lot of time to prepare. 

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goblue16

November 29th, 2016 at 7:17 PM ^

Still a shot man if there was ever a time I wanted Colorado to win. Hell if they help us get to the playoffs I will forgive them for 94



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ak47

November 29th, 2016 at 7:17 PM ^

Its over for us, can't move up without a win, if a team in front of us loses one of psu or wisconsin will jump us no questions asked.  Had to be #4 to have a chance.  

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ak47

November 29th, 2016 at 7:34 PM ^

In week 4. Early losses mean less, they would have 9 straight wins, we would have lost 2 of our last 3. They would be conference champions, we finished third in the division. I don't think its as cut and dry as people think that head to head is such deciding factor. They out performed us against all common opponents down the stretch, destroyed Iowa, beat msu by more, beat indiana by more, beat osu.  There are plenty of justifications for psu over us.

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Maynard

November 29th, 2016 at 7:50 PM ^

The committee guy all but said Penn State isn't getting in either way. He said their job is to get the 4 best and the other things like conference championships are only used if they are close. They just let us all know, if Washington wins, they are in. If they lose, Michigan goes. Pretty easy to read between the lines.

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lhglrkwg

November 29th, 2016 at 10:11 PM ^

I honestly can't believe this crap Penn State team is here right now. It was utterly non-competitive when we played them. Linebackers or not, linebackers don't help you score more than 10 points. We obliterated them and I'm sure the committee is well aware of that fact

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jcouz

November 29th, 2016 at 7:54 PM ^

I heard the CFP chair downplay conference championships and say they are on equal footing as head-to-head outcomes. He went on to add that the committee nearly ranked Michigan ahead of Washington. This committee likes Michigan and is looking for a reason (Washington and/or Clemson loss) to put them in. I am still shocked by what he said.

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amaizenblue402

November 29th, 2016 at 7:18 PM ^

Question is, would they jump PSU from #7 to #4 if they beat Wisconsin and Washington and/or Clemson lose? Or would they put Michigan in?



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Yeoman

November 30th, 2016 at 12:57 AM ^

I think that's quite right--if you've lost a game that badly you've convincingly demonstrated that you're not the best team in the country.

And that's OK for a sport like basketball where you've got a massive tournament and give the championship to whoever's playing best at the end. But that's not the tradition in football, and one of the things I think the committee wants is to end up with a national champion that you can make a plausible argument for being the best team. Penn State's the only one of the top 8 that would have no argument.

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ak47

November 29th, 2016 at 7:24 PM ^

They would jump them up, those ranking are as of right now, not projected forward, next week psu will be 11-2 to our 10-2, conference champions, 2 top 10 wins and we wouldn't have played.  They would really only be jumping us, wisconsin would be eliminated by their loss as would Washington and or Clemson so it would really just be psu jumping Michigan. Its over.

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