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01/07/2019 - 7:40pm "I love the idea of having…

"I love the idea of having two defensive coordinators" said Coach Day in a prepared statement. "I like having a diversity of opinions, and this way Coach Meyer and I each get to have our choice."

01/07/2019 - 7:23pm You can't really flip the…

You can't really flip the story, though. Brown's fielded four straight top-ten dFEI defenses with as you say less, and in one case far less, talent. Schiano took elite talent and turned it into UAB or MTSU and they showed him the door.

We'd be unhappy if Brown left, OSU wanted Schiano gone. That's pretty much the end of the comparison. Maybe a better one would be if we'd parted company with Greg Robinson after 2010 and brought in somebody from Maryland?

01/07/2019 - 6:59pm I know a guy that did that,…

I know a guy that did that, went Marcus Hall and then some on his way out of the company I worked for.

A year later the boss he had when he worked for us was hired by his new company to be his boss's boss; his Marcus act hadn't been forgotten and he got the axe before the month was out.

No matter how bad it gets, leave with some dignity. You never know what might be down the road.

12/24/2018 - 11:24pm Clemson's football facility…

Clemson's football facility to have nap room, barber shop

As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, it can be slipped to you by someone "very close to you." It's a great and your players don't even have to lie and there's no way in hell the NCAA is ever going to interrogate the team barber.

12/20/2018 - 1:12pm Why would "minor programs"…

Why would "minor programs" be affected by this? Nobody sat out last night's Frisco Bowl as far as I know.

12/20/2018 - 10:18am Two weeks ago Mullen said he…

Two weeks ago Mullen said he had some players considering leaving early but they'd all said they intended to play. I've seen nothing since so I assume that's still true.

12/20/2018 - 10:12am That came later. Every year…

That came later. Every year but two from 1965 to 1992, the worst team on Michigan's schedule (per Massey ratings) was a conference opponent. In 1970 it was Arizona. Long Beach was on the schedule in 1987; I don't remember how or why that happened.

In 1993 we had Houston, who had been really good when the game was scheduled but had since fallen apart thanks to my namesake's recruiting shenaningans. It really wasn't until '98 that the annual crappy nonconference opponent became a thing.

12/20/2018 - 9:32am There's a big difference…

There's a big difference between that and "UM academics is a joke."

The real quote was an actionable and accurate criticism; the other is a lazy troll.

12/20/2018 - 9:26am He's got friends still in…

He's got friends still in the program who might have something to lose if he "spoke on it"? I have no idea of course but that's what first came to mind when I read it.

Some people let loose in their exit interviews, some don't. It's a bad manager that assumes all the people that don't were perfectly happy in the job.

12/07/2018 - 11:46am I'm not so excited about…

I'm not so excited about that bit...I can imagine a season where M, OSU and PSU are all 11-1 or 10-2 but each split their games with the other two, while Wisconsin or Nebraska run the table with a schedule that's the existing West plus Rutgers and Indiana. At least with a championship game that team gets put back in their place with a 59-0 drubbing; this way they win the title outright.

12/07/2018 - 11:37am The original Big Ten? If…

The original Big Ten? If this includes bringing Chicago back to replace MSU, I'm all in.

12/01/2018 - 7:46pm The only result that could…

The only result that could possibly get them in is a bad Clemson loss. Maybe not even that--but it's possible they could pass a one-loss Clemson if the loss was dire enough.

12/01/2018 - 7:39pm Agree completely. If he's at…

Agree completely. If he's at QB I'll actually be rooting for them in the playoffs.

12/01/2018 - 7:24pm FWIW, coming into this…

FWIW, coming into this weekend Massey's computer had Georgia #2 (in the power ranking he uses for predictions), more than ten points better than #4 Notre Dame and more than two touchdowns better than OSU or Oklahoma. This game's going to leave his top 4 untouched but the gap from 3 to 4 will be even bigger (even if Alabama comes back).

Sagarin Predictor has the same top 3 but with Clemson ahead of Georgia.

Also FWIW and OT: Massey has Michigan basketball #1 (and already did before the UNC win).

12/01/2018 - 7:14pm Carol Hutchins.

Carol Hutchins.

11/24/2018 - 4:08pm And our best chance of…

And our best chance of winning a bowl game is to get to the Rose Bowl.

11/24/2018 - 4:05pm I'm with you completely…

I'm with you completely until that last sentence.

Speed kills. Offense, defense, doesn't matter, as long as their guys are bigger and faster than ours, this is going to happen.

11/24/2018 - 3:52pm Maybe a similar comment is…

Maybe a similar comment is in order on the other side of the ball too. "Get to the quarterback before they're guys can get open" only works if you can eventually get to the quarterback. We're getting beat at every spot up front--no scheme can consistently make up for that.

11/24/2018 - 3:30pm As much as I'd like to see…

As much as I'd like to see Brown take a turn at DE, he's not allowed. The players have to get the pressure.

11/24/2018 - 3:25pm We also lead in first downs,…

We also lead in first downs, and have fewer penalties for less yardage. And completed passes. And rushing attempts.

11/24/2018 - 3:21pm 1968.

That's if you think…


That's if you think we can shut them out the rest of the way. If they score again it's the record.

11/24/2018 - 3:17pm Corrupt? That's a bit harsh…

Corrupt? That's a bit harsh on Lincoln Riley.

11/21/2018 - 6:32pm We're talking about a guy…

We're talking about a guy that vets prospective assistants by checking the hotness of their wives and who got himself in trouble at Vandy by, among other things, allegedly personally checking out the suitability of prospective coed escorts...I mean recruiting assistants...

...and you think he wouldn't leave State College for USC in a heartbeat?

11/17/2018 - 4:07pm So I'm not the only one with…

So I'm not the only one with visions of Illinois in my head here. It was 67-65; broke a two-game losing streak to the Illini if you can believe that.

OSU does look a lot like a RR team this year, don't they? Except that somehow they manage to win their games.

10/29/2018 - 6:43pm Can we still hope for the…

Can we still hope for the possible intervention of federal law enforcement or has that ship sailed?

10/25/2018 - 8:30pm A player's salary is going…

A player's salary is going to be based on his value to the club he's playing for, which at this level isn't much. What's a g-league team turning in merchandise and ticket sales? I think people get misled by college athletics' unique ability to leverage fans' attachment to their schools. Take that away, set up minor league football or basketball, and you aren't going to see stadiums packed with tens of thousands, or $10 billion in wagering on a single event.

But a player's valuation in the futures market is a different matter entirely, as this article should make clear:

A New Option for N.B.A. Prospects: The Million-Dollar Intern

That's a million dollars guaranteed for a three-month internship for a player fresh out of high school who's not even going to play.

Good luck competing with that.

09/30/2018 - 11:49pm Boston College 2013-15 comes…

Boston College 2013-15 comes to mind.

The curious thing is that when Brown came to Michigan, Michigan's penalties actually dropped and B.C.'s stayed the same:


BC 6.5 penalties, 57.4 yards

UM 6.7 penalties, 59.8 yards


BC 6.9 penalties, 57.4 yards

UM 4.8 penalties, 45.6 yards


The big change came with Harbaugh's arrival, not Brown's. Michigan penalties nearly doubled from 2014 to 2015:


BC 4.4 penalties, 38.3 yards

UM 3.5 penalties, 31.7 yards


And in Brown's first year at BC they were fourth in the country in fewest penalties and fewest penalty yards.

Very small sample sizes to be sure. But also not what I was expecting to find.

06/15/2018 - 2:58pm I guess deGea's been in…

I guess deGea's been in Manchester long enough to have become English.

It can happen.

06/06/2018 - 10:26pm For years I've been entering…

For years I've been entering the site from the tracker, which made it very easy to see what had happened since I was last here (new comments on existing threads, new threads, new mainpage content). "40 replies, 2 new" with the new comments clearly labeled was a lot more informative than "40 replies."

I don't know if this is a temporary loss or it's gone for good (or if it's here and I just don't know where to look), but I'm finding it hard to navigate the site without it. I could live with any sorting choice if I could just easily separate new stuff from what I've already seen.

06/06/2018 - 7:22pm Is this a reference to the…

Is this a reference to the prof who admitted to corrupting the moral purity of an unmarried house pet?

06/01/2018 - 12:55pm Because there are a lot of

Because there are a lot of aging Pistons fans here who can't let it go?

06/01/2018 - 12:53pm I wrote that off after the

I wrote that off after the Irving/Thomas deal. He was really angry.

Fences were slightly mended when Thomas was sent packing midseason but it wasn't nearly enough. I don't think he really wants to leave NE Ohio but he'll be very happy to see the back of Dan Gilbert.

06/01/2018 - 1:24am No, they didn't win

No, they didn't win championships. But they weren't a lottery team while Jordan was playing baseball and they were about 35 games better than Lebron-less Cleveland. 35 games in an 82-game season is a lot.

The second time Jordan retired and Pippen and Rodman left too (not to mention replacing Jackson with Tim Floyd) they were bad. But still not as bad as Cleveland.

How else would you compare supporting casts? We're blessed with a pretty clean experiment because both stars left their teams while still in their prime, and then returned. Chicago went on making the playoffs and winning 50 games; Cleveland plummeted to the bottom of the league. It doesn't seem that hard to me to figure out which group was better.

06/01/2018 - 1:08am I don't know the details of how they'd make it work financially

...but supposedly it's Paul who's trying to recruit Lebron.

I can see those two together--that'd be a great pairing. But not with Harden too.

06/01/2018 - 1:05am He didn't trade Irving for Thomas.

That's the one trade they made without even consulting him, and he was pissed.

06/01/2018 - 12:57am When Jordan "retired" the

When Jordan "retired" the Bulls dropped from 57 wins to 55.

When Lebron left Cleveland the Cavs dropped from 61 wins to 19 and went from best record in the league to second worst. If you want I suppose you can blame it on the loss of Ilguaskas.

06/01/2018 - 12:11am Houston makes no sense to me at all.

They have an all-time-great point guard and Harden who wants to play iso for 48 minutes. What would Lebron do? There's only one ball and I can't imagine Lebron standing around on the perimeter watching Harden dribble.

05/31/2018 - 11:54pm I've got a better idea.

Lebron can stay and we'll send his teammates to Houston.

Smith can maybe find work at the Space Center.

05/29/2018 - 10:11am The curious thing about

The curious thing about Cleveland is that they do have two or three guys that are at least marginal NBA starters (Hood was a starter at Utah before this year, Clarkson started for terrible Lakers teams, Nance is on the edge) but they're all on the second unit, playing behind guys like Green and Smith who truly couldn't start on any other team.

They'll be bad when LeBron leaves but I don't think they'll be historically (as in Stepien-era) bad. But the relative value of the other players wil be completely different.

05/28/2018 - 4:02pm He's already made the finals...

...with a starting lineup of Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Drew Gooden, Sasha Pavlovic and Daniel Gibson. (OK, Ilgauskas was prettty good. But Daniel Gibson???)

Then he took two finals games off the supposedly greatest team of all time with Dellavedova, Shumpert, Thompson and Mozgov.

Maybe GOAT is a harder question. But if you need to add one player to a squad of G-leaguers, LeBron's your man.

05/28/2018 - 3:55pm That might be true.

It's also irrelevant.

Jesse Owens wouldn't win a top-quality high-school 100m now--at least half a dozen high school runners this year have put up times better than his Olympic time. Does this reduce his greatness in the slightest?

03/31/2018 - 4:48pm Well, that's disappointing.

I saw the thread title and thought "oh, good, they've finally listened to all the people complaining about that damn Confederate battle flag and they're changing their nickname."

03/29/2018 - 9:39pm Was it even a possibility?

Just because he'd gotten into SMU didn't mean he was ever going to be eligible.

Those two years spent at Prime Prep put Emmanuel Mudiay in a tough spot

03/29/2018 - 7:39pm I can see how this benefits the team.

But not what Bazley would be getting out of closing the market for his services and limiting himself to a single prospective employer.

03/29/2018 - 6:51pm He's pretty good.

I've seen him play quite a bit (he's from my home suburb and spent two years at my alma mater but he transferred out when an iceberg* hit the basketball program). He plays in one of the best leagues in Ohio and he led that league in rebounds, assists and blocks. And I haven't seen his AAU team play but sentiment seems to be that the better the competition, the better he plays.

He also needs a lot of strength work--he's a very slender guy. But the ceiling's very very high and if he gets the right people working with him on S&C he might be able to contribute right away.


*Head coach retired unexpectedly to focus on his business career and family, and the new guy was not of the same caliber, to put it mildly; we haven't won a league game in the two years since Bazley's transfer.

03/29/2018 - 6:22pm That's definitely true.

They can't make a final decision on academic qualification until you graduate and submit a final transcript. They need that final GPA and your last/best attempt at the board exams.

Pretty much any recruit you can think of who was declared a non-qualifer or academic redshirt had already signed an LOI before that declaration.


03/29/2018 - 5:25pm Maybe there's more to this story.

Imagine, hypothetically, that a one-and-done player had some issues with academic qualification. Going straight to the G-League would be a pretty obvious move if the alternatives were juco or sitting out the only year you were going to have.

And there's no reason we would ever find out.

03/26/2018 - 11:26pm That's great.

Imagine what'll be in his next book, if he ever lands another job.

03/25/2018 - 11:08am Why bother with a less than 1% chance?

I wish Dantonio thought like you.

03/25/2018 - 11:04am You're right. Let's call it the Crazy Eight.

We had subs.