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11/17/2018 - 4:07pm So I'm not the only one with…

So I'm not the only one with visions of Illinois in my head here. It was 67-65; broke a two-game losing streak to the Illini if you can believe that.

OSU does look a lot like a RR team this year, don't they? Except that somehow they manage to win their games.

10/29/2018 - 6:43pm Can we still hope for the…

Can we still hope for the possible intervention of federal law enforcement or has that ship sailed?

10/25/2018 - 8:30pm A player's salary is going…

A player's salary is going to be based on his value to the club he's playing for, which at this level isn't much. What's a g-league team turning in merchandise and ticket sales? I think people get misled by college athletics' unique ability to leverage fans' attachment to their schools. Take that away, set up minor league football or basketball, and you aren't going to see stadiums packed with tens of thousands, or $10 billion in wagering on a single event.

But a player's valuation in the futures market is a different matter entirely, as this article should make clear:

A New Option for N.B.A. Prospects: The Million-Dollar Intern

That's a million dollars guaranteed for a three-month internship for a player fresh out of high school who's not even going to play.

Good luck competing with that.

09/30/2018 - 11:49pm Boston College 2013-15 comes…

Boston College 2013-15 comes to mind.

The curious thing is that when Brown came to Michigan, Michigan's penalties actually dropped and B.C.'s stayed the same:


BC 6.5 penalties, 57.4 yards

UM 6.7 penalties, 59.8 yards


BC 6.9 penalties, 57.4 yards

UM 4.8 penalties, 45.6 yards


The big change came with Harbaugh's arrival, not Brown's. Michigan penalties nearly doubled from 2014 to 2015:


BC 4.4 penalties, 38.3 yards

UM 3.5 penalties, 31.7 yards


And in Brown's first year at BC they were fourth in the country in fewest penalties and fewest penalty yards.

Very small sample sizes to be sure. But also not what I was expecting to find.

06/15/2018 - 2:58pm I guess deGea's been in…

I guess deGea's been in Manchester long enough to have become English.

It can happen.

06/06/2018 - 10:26pm For years I've been entering…

For years I've been entering the site from the tracker, which made it very easy to see what had happened since I was last here (new comments on existing threads, new threads, new mainpage content). "40 replies, 2 new" with the new comments clearly labeled was a lot more informative than "40 replies."

I don't know if this is a temporary loss or it's gone for good (or if it's here and I just don't know where to look), but I'm finding it hard to navigate the site without it. I could live with any sorting choice if I could just easily separate new stuff from what I've already seen.

06/06/2018 - 7:22pm Is this a reference to the…

Is this a reference to the prof who admitted to corrupting the moral purity of an unmarried house pet?

06/01/2018 - 12:55pm Because there are a lot of

Because there are a lot of aging Pistons fans here who can't let it go?

06/01/2018 - 12:53pm I wrote that off after the

I wrote that off after the Irving/Thomas deal. He was really angry.

Fences were slightly mended when Thomas was sent packing midseason but it wasn't nearly enough. I don't think he really wants to leave NE Ohio but he'll be very happy to see the back of Dan Gilbert.

06/01/2018 - 1:24am No, they didn't win

No, they didn't win championships. But they weren't a lottery team while Jordan was playing baseball and they were about 35 games better than Lebron-less Cleveland. 35 games in an 82-game season is a lot.

The second time Jordan retired and Pippen and Rodman left too (not to mention replacing Jackson with Tim Floyd) they were bad. But still not as bad as Cleveland.

How else would you compare supporting casts? We're blessed with a pretty clean experiment because both stars left their teams while still in their prime, and then returned. Chicago went on making the playoffs and winning 50 games; Cleveland plummeted to the bottom of the league. It doesn't seem that hard to me to figure out which group was better.

06/01/2018 - 1:08am I don't know the details of how they'd make it work financially

...but supposedly it's Paul who's trying to recruit Lebron.

I can see those two together--that'd be a great pairing. But not with Harden too.

06/01/2018 - 1:05am He didn't trade Irving for Thomas.

That's the one trade they made without even consulting him, and he was pissed.

06/01/2018 - 12:57am When Jordan "retired" the

When Jordan "retired" the Bulls dropped from 57 wins to 55.

When Lebron left Cleveland the Cavs dropped from 61 wins to 19 and went from best record in the league to second worst. If you want I suppose you can blame it on the loss of Ilguaskas.

06/01/2018 - 12:11am Houston makes no sense to me at all.

They have an all-time-great point guard and Harden who wants to play iso for 48 minutes. What would Lebron do? There's only one ball and I can't imagine Lebron standing around on the perimeter watching Harden dribble.

05/31/2018 - 11:54pm I've got a better idea.

Lebron can stay and we'll send his teammates to Houston.

Smith can maybe find work at the Space Center.

05/29/2018 - 10:11am The curious thing about

The curious thing about Cleveland is that they do have two or three guys that are at least marginal NBA starters (Hood was a starter at Utah before this year, Clarkson started for terrible Lakers teams, Nance is on the edge) but they're all on the second unit, playing behind guys like Green and Smith who truly couldn't start on any other team.

They'll be bad when LeBron leaves but I don't think they'll be historically (as in Stepien-era) bad. But the relative value of the other players wil be completely different.

05/28/2018 - 4:02pm He's already made the finals...

...with a starting lineup of Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Drew Gooden, Sasha Pavlovic and Daniel Gibson. (OK, Ilgauskas was prettty good. But Daniel Gibson???)

Then he took two finals games off the supposedly greatest team of all time with Dellavedova, Shumpert, Thompson and Mozgov.

Maybe GOAT is a harder question. But if you need to add one player to a squad of G-leaguers, LeBron's your man.

05/28/2018 - 3:55pm That might be true.

It's also irrelevant.

Jesse Owens wouldn't win a top-quality high-school 100m now--at least half a dozen high school runners this year have put up times better than his Olympic time. Does this reduce his greatness in the slightest?

03/31/2018 - 4:48pm Well, that's disappointing.

I saw the thread title and thought "oh, good, they've finally listened to all the people complaining about that damn Confederate battle flag and they're changing their nickname."

03/29/2018 - 9:39pm Was it even a possibility?

Just because he'd gotten into SMU didn't mean he was ever going to be eligible.

Those two years spent at Prime Prep put Emmanuel Mudiay in a tough spot

03/29/2018 - 7:39pm I can see how this benefits the team.

But not what Bazley would be getting out of closing the market for his services and limiting himself to a single prospective employer.

03/29/2018 - 6:51pm He's pretty good.

I've seen him play quite a bit (he's from my home suburb and spent two years at my alma mater but he transferred out when an iceberg* hit the basketball program). He plays in one of the best leagues in Ohio and he led that league in rebounds, assists and blocks. And I haven't seen his AAU team play but sentiment seems to be that the better the competition, the better he plays.

He also needs a lot of strength work--he's a very slender guy. But the ceiling's very very high and if he gets the right people working with him on S&C he might be able to contribute right away.


*Head coach retired unexpectedly to focus on his business career and family, and the new guy was not of the same caliber, to put it mildly; we haven't won a league game in the two years since Bazley's transfer.

03/29/2018 - 6:22pm That's definitely true.

They can't make a final decision on academic qualification until you graduate and submit a final transcript. They need that final GPA and your last/best attempt at the board exams.

Pretty much any recruit you can think of who was declared a non-qualifer or academic redshirt had already signed an LOI before that declaration.


03/29/2018 - 5:25pm Maybe there's more to this story.

Imagine, hypothetically, that a one-and-done player had some issues with academic qualification. Going straight to the G-League would be a pretty obvious move if the alternatives were juco or sitting out the only year you were going to have.

And there's no reason we would ever find out.

03/26/2018 - 11:26pm That's great.

Imagine what'll be in his next book, if he ever lands another job.

03/25/2018 - 11:08am Why bother with a less than 1% chance?

I wish Dantonio thought like you.

03/25/2018 - 11:04am You're right. Let's call it the Crazy Eight.

We had subs.

03/23/2018 - 1:25pm Somebody was trying to tell us

03/23/2018 - 1:19pm Bill doesn't make sense to you?


03/23/2018 - 1:11pm Somebody late in his career

Somebody late in his career who just wants to stay in the game will walk into situations that might ruin the career of a younger man. Nobody wants 2017 Tennessee on their resume.

Greg Robinson coming to Michigan would be another example.

03/19/2018 - 11:45pm And that's worse than it looks...

...because above all else they recruit length. They've got the personnel to be a good rebounding team, and they aren't.

03/18/2018 - 11:33pm I don't know...

...I'd rather have played Xavier than Gonzaga.

03/18/2018 - 10:07pm Since we went to 64+

I think this is only the second time a #9 seed has worn white in a tournament game (Wichita St. vs. LaSalle 2013).

03/18/2018 - 9:17pm I'll get through the next three hours but...

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03/18/2018 - 5:12pm I understand fouling.

But that was awfully quick.

03/18/2018 - 4:55pm If you take offensive

If you take offensive rebounding out of the equation, the guys on the other bench are almost as bad--they're just throwing it at the basket and attacking the glass.

When you've got more offensive rebounds than made baskets, something's not right.

03/18/2018 - 4:46pm maybe

But I have no sympathy for a player who runs underneath somebody that's in the air.

03/18/2018 - 2:20pm They need to run their

They need to run their stuff--the Edwards 1-on-1 possessions have been their worst.

CEd: 4-17, 1 asst., 2 to's

rest of team: 21-33

It'd be one thing if he was missing his shots at the end of the clock but he's dribbling himself into trouble ten seconds into the possession. Maybe that stuff works when Haas is rolling to the rim but it's not working today.

03/18/2018 - 2:17pm Vince on the other hand has

Vince on the other hand has been terrific.

03/18/2018 - 2:08pm I'm not sure I like Butler's

I'm not sure I like Butler's decision to go small here. Haarms was visibly struggling and they gave Purdue a chance to get him out.

03/18/2018 - 1:41pm C. Edwards has more than half

C. Edwards has more than half of Purdue's misses. I think they need to 86 his early threes.

03/18/2018 - 1:23pm Haarms

Maybe he plays that way because he knows they only need 10-15 minutes out of him anyway and he might as well use his fouls? He's done a pretty good job of avoiding the silly stuff so far.

03/18/2018 - 9:13am Passes too well to be Iverson

Passes too well to be Iverson and he's not nearly as big.

Reminds me of Nash. if we're talking HOFers.

03/18/2018 - 1:32am Some of the ranking

Some of the ranking algorithms include FBS and FCS though. Massey has an online archive--of course since it was the first game of the season he didn't have anything to go on but how he each team had finished 2005, but App St. was #42 in both divisions, a few notches ahead of Alabama and better than 7 of the 11 B1G teams, and he was predicting 33-17 on a neutral field. I doubt the spread would have been more than 21.

03/18/2018 - 1:14am That sounds flippant...

...but I think there's a lot of truth to it. The English in 1950 were sure that, as the originators of the game, they were superior to everyone else...but in reality they'd been left behind technically and tactically, something they didn't even begin to understand until the Hungarians took them apart three years later.

It was still a huge upset, but 500:1 was probably more a matter of English overestimation of their own strength. Those were the odds at London houses, after all.

03/18/2018 - 12:40am At tip you could only get

At tip you could only get 19:1. Earlier in the week you could get 40:1.

The biggest single-game upset I can think of on a big stage is the US beating England in the 1950 World Cup. The US didn't have full-time professional players; supposedly you could get 500:1 on the match in England. I doubt you can find odds like that nowadays on any single contest no matter how big the mismatch.

03/17/2018 - 12:06am Depends on when.

If you placed the bet when the lines first came out, $4000. By tip it was down to $1900.…

03/16/2018 - 11:59pm Every year I put one random

Every year I put one random bracket in at Yahoo (and call it, of course, "Yeoman Random"). Not coin-flip random--I generate some probabilities from Vegas money lines or, like this year, Massey probabilities. But there always seems to be a game where the random number comes up 99 and I get a headscratcher that makes me cringe when I click the X.

This year it came up for the first game on the whole bracket. Yes, I've got a Yahoo bracket with UMBC over Virginia.

If you're wondering, it has Michigan losing to UNC and ends with Villanova beating Tennessee in the final.

03/16/2018 - 11:51pm Your teams are right

but your bracket is broken.

03/16/2018 - 11:30pm Public Service Announcement

No #9 seed has ever beaten a #16 seed.