CFP Rankings @7pm

Submitted by jonesie022 on
I know it's early and many of you were going to tell me to stop clinging on to hope but tonight rankings will determine and tell us our chances going forward. I have gone on record as saying I believe we will be ranked #5. If you just put blind resumes up next to one another I still say we have a better resume than Clemson and Washington despite two losses. I'm not delusional enough to think we will be ranked ahead of them tonight but if one of them lose Saturday I say we are in. Remember when Texas A&M was ranked ahead of an undefeated Washington? Why can't a 2 loss Michigan with MORE quality wins who plays in undoubtedly the BEST conference in America do the same? Speaking of which, who in the hell determines the strength of schedule rankings? All three of our non conference teams are bowl eligible and we play in the toughest conference/ division in America yet are in the 50s/60s? Sorry for formatting...
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somewittyname

November 29th, 2016 at 12:20 PM ^

because I think the committee will give weight to conference champs, but if conference champs are PSU, Colorado, and Ok State (who lost to CMU), I do think they are going to have a difficult time leaving us out.

If any of those teams lose though, I think their counterpart gets in ahead of us. Washington, no question. Wisconsin played us tight at home, so I think they'd have a sound case also accounting for their SOS and conference championship. I think OU may or may not get in ahead of us by winning the B12 and also reasonable losses, albeit not a pretty one to OSU.

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1VaBlue1

November 29th, 2016 at 11:55 AM ^

Put some steel in your nuts and move along...  Won't be long before we are all cyborgs ruling the world.  Our leader will be Drake Johnson, whose already made of twisted blue steel.

Where do you buy that stuff, anyway?  I want to be able to survive a forklift rollover, because I just feel like I got rolled over by one...

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Gucci Mane

November 29th, 2016 at 12:07 PM ^

We can not let the travesty of these refs fall off peoples minds. Remember to tell people about it, post on social media, call radio shows, tweet, anything ! Brian has sadly lost touch with the will of the masses and ordered the deletion of new posts on this. Don't let this issue go untill at least after the playoff has been officially selected.

To follow my own advice I called in to national CBS sports radio this morning. I brought up that one of the refs was an OSU. Lets follow our leader, Harbaugh, and get this done !

 

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Ghost of Fritz…

November 29th, 2016 at 12:18 PM ^

It does show that they are willing to put whichever teams they think are best in the top 4, regardless of conference.

But it also shows that they can have some weird ideas about which are the top 4 teams.

I do not agree that the committee decision to put A&M at no. 4 in the first poll was a sound decision. 

More data now, so maybe the committee will get it right. 

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uncle leo

November 29th, 2016 at 11:23 AM ^

Wouldn't we want Penn State to win? They are ranked 8th right now in AP/Coaches, and I have a hard time believing they would jump to #4 in the playoff with a close win against Wisconsin. 

Also, Michigan's crushing win over them is so much smaller than the Wisconsin game. I'm more fearful of the Badgers being the 2nd Big Ten team.

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1VaBlue1

November 29th, 2016 at 12:04 PM ^

This.

No way Wiscy rolls anyone with that offense.  Honestly, I think that even if UW beats PSU in a low-scoring affair, I don't see them jumping UM.  A very good defense, with no offense behind it, isn't going to last long in the playoffs.  Conversely, if PSU gives up 30 points to UW, win or lose, no way they jump us.  Having no defense against a no offense outfit, regardless of how good PSU's offense looks, is not going to go far in the playoffs.

Michigan has an outstanding defense that we know will travel.  And the offense is top 10 in the country, only really slowed by Iowa.  It moved the ball erlatively well against both UW and OSU.

Fucking Iowa game!  That rotten egg hurts.  What the hell was that, anyway?  By far the worst showing of the Harbaughffense since early last season.  Completely out of character...

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ak47

November 29th, 2016 at 11:38 AM ^

Eh I'm not so sure, PSU has a much stronger resume, we just beat psu by more but they were dealing with injuries and it was 8 games ago.  With a win PSU would have wins over the #2, #6, and #22 teams in the country with 9 straight wins and losses against #5 and #25 on the road.  Our resume of wins over #6, #7, and #8 but losses against #2 and #22 on the road isn't that much stronger to overcome psu being the conference champion, especially with a common opponenent in Iowa at the end of the year to show PSU's growth.

Meanwhile Wisconsin's resume at this point mostly consists of losing not that badly to Michigan and OSU. Their highest ranked win going into this week will be Iowa, LSU is no longer ranked and neither is Nebraksa.  Wisconsins resume is actually much weaker than people think.  I think a low scoring ugly wisconsin win is our best bet.

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J.

November 29th, 2016 at 1:21 PM ^

39 Points! 39 Points!

Do you know the last time Michigan lost a game by 39+ points?

November 16, 1935.  40-0 vs. a Minnesota team completing its second consecutive national championship season.  1935! Prior to that, 1892 vs. Cornell (44-0), and 1883 vs. Yale (64-0).

(The worst loss of the modern era is Rich Rod's final stand, 52-14 vs. Mississippi State, after the team had given up on him).

Head-to-head isn't everything.  There may be an argument that Wisconsin is a better team than Michigan -- a one score game is within the margin of error.  But there is no argument whatsoever that PSU is a better team than Michigan, and if PSU advances to the playoff and Michigan does not, it will be an utter travesty.

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MGoCombs

November 29th, 2016 at 1:24 PM ^

Absolutely right. Though we statistically dominated UW in that game, people will remember that it was close and won on an insane Lewis pick. Though PSU had some injuries, people will remember that we destroyed them by a wide margin. The committee considers head-to-head and Conf. Championships (weight TBD) when teams are close, so I like our chances better when we are being compared to the team we destroyed.

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mGrowOld

November 29th, 2016 at 11:22 AM ^

The B1G is not getting three teams in and in either of those scenerios it's going to be OSU and the winner of Wisconsin & Penn State.

Sorry - I dont believe the same folks who just fucked us out of a game on Saturday are going to lift a finger to try and help our cause.  They got it set up the way they wanted - OSU and the winner of Wisconsin-Penn State.

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HAIL-YEA

November 29th, 2016 at 11:54 AM ^

the hell are you talking about? The B10 does not get a say in the committee selection process, there are 4 other conference who might have a problem with that. We got fucked by the refs, but there is not some big conspiracy to keep us out of the playoff. It's just incompetence

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Tbone67

November 29th, 2016 at 11:28 AM ^

I totally agree. They seem to make all kinds of excuses for other teams excpt when it comes to Michigan. Example: they keep saying colorado lost to us because Liufau got hurt but fail to mention that we didnt have lewis or taco for that game.

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lilpenny1316

November 29th, 2016 at 11:31 AM ^

You'll probably end up with three B1G teams in the Final Four.  That's the only way it happens.

Also, if you're Delaney, why would you want Wisconsin or PSU #4 when you know they would get killed by Alabama?  It might as well be a bye week before the CFP championship game.

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1VaBlue1

November 29th, 2016 at 12:09 PM ^

Delaney and company don't give a rats ass who gets in, so long as the B1G gets two.  If it's OSU and either UM/UW/PSU, the B1G will be ecstatic.

OSU is a lock.  The question is, who is #2?  IF there is a #2.  Should both Washington and Clemson win, the 'B1G Champion' (air quotes) will be left out.

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Surveillance Doe

November 29th, 2016 at 12:10 PM ^

I totally disagree with your first point. Today's rankings will be meaningless in terms of our chances. The shuffle that matters for Michigan happens after the conference championship games. I expect Michigan to be ahead of Wisconsin and Penn State tonight. I expect to be behind the winner of the BTCG next week. I agree that I don't see us getting in (unless Colorado and Virginia Tech both win). But I don't think tonight's rankings tell us anything we don't already know. 

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JacksFootball

November 29th, 2016 at 11:24 AM ^

The committee will put us at four, then after next week see where the chips fall. Its easier for them to put us four and move us down, then put us five and move us up without playing.

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ak47

November 29th, 2016 at 11:41 AM ^

If head to head mattered that much OSU wouldn't be ranked ahead of PSU, they would have 2 top wins if they beat wisconsin, 9 straight wins, a big ten championship, etc.  That is a strong enough resume to overcome a head to head loss by countering it with a championship win and finishing stronger and honestly it should be strong enough unless you don't value the regular season at all and just want to use the eye test.

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