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01/11/2019 - 10:54am You never root for a loss,…

You never root for a loss, but you know it's almost certainly an inevitability. So it isn't devastating when it happens, and you can say, "We'll be better for it." But no, I don't want the team to lose. I would love to see them undefeated come mid-April. 

01/07/2019 - 8:59pm Doesn't even look like the…

Doesn't even look like the same sport.

01/03/2019 - 4:29pm Don't want to hear about…

Don't want to hear about your loose shit. 

12/18/2018 - 4:22pm Yeah, as I said, my…

Yeah, as I said, my frustrations do not primarily come directly from the teams representing the university. If I'm being really honest with myself, though, it's a much more complicated situation than just pointing at the fan base and saying, "We aren't realistic."

If you want to tell me that, in three out of the last four years, we have finished with at least 10 wins (could be more this season) and a ranking in the top 12, I can nod in agreement and say we should be very happy considering where we were prior to Harbaugh's arrival. I have no problem with that. We are way better off than we were, and we should be grateful for that.

At the same time, what the fuck happened in Columbus? Like really, what the fuck? And why are promising players in positions of need with clear paths to the field transferring out?

So yeah, I can agree that the fans aren't realistic, and that makes places like MGoBlog tough, especially when things aren't going perfectly, as many expect, fair or not. At the same time, I can't plug my ears, repeat "10 wins" (three times), and completely ignore the sky-is-falling crowd--as much as I might prefer to do that--because I'm not sitting here without questions of my own. 

12/18/2018 - 2:20pm I'm trying to figure out if…

I'm trying to figure out if I've changed or if this fan base has totally lost it. It's not easy being a Michigan fan right now, and that's only tangentially related to the teams representing Michigan.

12/18/2018 - 6:35am It's like when you enter…

It's like when you enter your PIN number into the ATM machine.

12/13/2018 - 4:18pm Forever unclean!

Forever unclean!

12/06/2018 - 3:41pm I too have not commented on…

I too have not commented on Urban Meyer retiring. Feeling pretty ice cold!

11/29/2018 - 3:03pm Unfortunately, you can't dig…

Unfortunately, you can't dig deep into this issue without the tip of your shovel striking racial undertones. It is very much a racial issue at its core. 

11/29/2018 - 3:00pm How would you feel if your…

How would you feel if your employer, rather than paying you money, gave you something you may or may not want with a sticker price that might even exceed what you currently make in spendable money? "More than adequately compensated," right?

11/29/2018 - 2:49pm I think it's more that it's…

I think it's more that it's hard to accept as genuine anyone who broadcasts his or her "religion" as a cheap and often transparent marketing ploy. The person pretending to be unique in how righteous he or she may be gets a well deserved eye roll from anyone capable of thinking critically. And it doesn't tell us anything about that person's commitment to playing by the rules.

11/20/2018 - 10:31am There aren't a whole lot of…

There aren't a whole lot of home-run options out there this year. As much as I like the idea of a Franklin-saddled PSU going forward, I think a dose of instability in Happy Valley is probably even better, especially in terms of disrupting their recruiting momentum. 

Also, this would ensure that USC continues to be a head-shaking shit show, which is also nice.

11/20/2018 - 10:11am You might say it's a "now or…

You might say it's a "now or next year" situation.

11/15/2018 - 5:03pm Is it wrong though?


Is it wrong though?

Whether or not you think they'll turn things around, Florida State is a tire fire right now. At the moment, the ACC really is just Clemson. I don't think there's any doubt it's a cake walk today.

If your argument is that program with a history of sustained success will rebound, I think the point is even more correct. There are at least four programs in the Big Ten that have more historical clout than the best in the ACC.

11/11/2018 - 1:17pm You conspiracy types keep…

You conspiracy types keep saying this as though it's a fact. Where is your evidence? There is none.

I'm sorry, but you're just looking for things to be upset about. It's not happening.

11/09/2018 - 4:31pm I would have assumed so, but…

I would have assumed so, but I think he was busy filming Bad Santa at the time.

11/09/2018 - 4:24pm Uhhhh....


11/09/2018 - 4:11pm The preview post actually…

The preview post actually caught me a little off-guard. Then there was an uneasy feeling as I realized this isn't actually a bye week. Then I realized, "Holy shit, haven't you been smoking peyote for six straight days, and couldn't some of this maybe be in your mind?"

11/09/2018 - 2:03pm Just tried it. Seems to have…

Just tried it. Seems to have frightened people. Is that how it's supposed to work?

11/05/2018 - 8:19am 2004, Man. We're in no…

2004, Man. We're in no position to get picky about how we might get this monkey off our back. 

11/02/2018 - 3:12pm I don't doubt that has given…

I don't doubt that has given me a boost, especially because I added that component out of necessity. But I was probably a 2-3 year reigning champ when that happened, and I made the change because I was deadlocked with someone in first place through like 10 weeks. Every week, he/she and I had the exact same picks. I was waiting for this clown to blink, but he/she never did, and I didn't want to break my winning streak with a tie. So S&P+ was added because, otherwise, I would have ended up in a tie for first place with someone doing the same thing I had been doing.

I don't doubt your experience and that there have been years when it wasn't as successful. I think we're in agreement here, though, that Vegas lines are based on much more than which fanbase is bigger or feeling more confident.


11/02/2018 - 2:00pm My strategy currently has me…

My strategy currently has me in first place in both of my groups and in the 99th percentile on ESPN, which is the case this late in the season every year. 

I only personally know a handful of people in each group, but they all think I'm really knowledgeable about college sports (one group also does the NCAA basketball tournament). I probably spend less time doing my picks each week than anyone, and I apply zero knowledge when doing it. 

Those Vegas lines aren't just chasing money.

EDIT: Oh, and I'm now fully expecting to get slaughtered this week.

11/02/2018 - 1:38pm Anecdotal, of course, but I…

Anecdotal, of course, but I've got two traveling trophies for two fairly large groups that have been sitting in my closet for years that disagree. Now, there's always a couple of us at the top who are clearly employing very similar strategies, so I can't go purely chalk. But a couple of minor tweaks incorporating S&P+ predictions on the toss-up games have proven to be enough to keep me out of danger. 

11/02/2018 - 12:30pm Someone always provides this…

Someone always provides this comment in these threads. "Vegas" doesn't mean a group of guys on the strip for a bachelor party for the weekend or some schmucks in town for a conference. This is serious money, and these lines are based on way more information than anyone here might have. Vegas has to beat the people who do this for a living.

Ever play in one of those ESPN pick'em games with friends, family, coworkers, etc? Want to win it every year? Pick the Vegas favorites, and use the lines to determine your confidence rankings. Congratulations, you are now the winner.

Yes, Vegas is trying to get even money, but they do that by being very, very good at setting these lines. 


11/02/2018 - 8:43am I'm pretty sure the revenue…

I'm pretty sure the revenue tour consists of one stop in New Jersey.


11/01/2018 - 5:26pm If this were another player…

If this were another player at another school, no one would even be talking about it because it's not interesting to anyone who isn't a pretty serious fan of the school.

Do you happen to know if Troy Smith has been honored by Ohio State at any point over the last decade? I don't, because that's not even interesting news for me. If you told me they have honored him, I don't judge the fans who supported it. (And not in the "what else would you expect from Ohio" sort of way.)

We're not talking about honoring Joe Paterno here. It's a basketball player who got some money.

Do I wish he would have handled it differently? You bet. Am I morally outraged? Not even a little tiny bit.

11/01/2018 - 12:09pm As others have pointed out,…

As others have pointed out, this simply isn't true, and everyone needs to stop losing their minds about this.

First, Bama is probably going to beat LSU this weekend, so let's all just chill out.

Second, a Bama team that doesn't win its division is not getting in over a one-loss B1G champ whose only loss came in a one-score game on the road at night way back before Labor Day. Everyone claiming this is a lock, please show me any evidence that this would happen. None exists.

To the contrary, we know that it was extremely controversial to take a one-loss Bama team that didn't win its division over a two-loss B1G champ that was blown out by a mediocre team in November. All of the hypotheticals being tossed around assume Michigan wins out, so we are not talking about the same scenario that happened last year with Ohio State.

We want all undefeated teams to lose. After that, we want all one-loss teams to lose again. Hell, we want any two-loss teams to drop a third game. Right down the line.

As the OP says, Alabama can't lose twice if it doesn't lose once. We're all assuming Michigan wins out. If that happens, we will be in it. You want Alabama out of the way? Root for it to lose.

Our biggest threats (again, assuming we win out) are Notre Dame, Oklahoma, and West Virginia. I don't see either of the Big XII teams passing us. And the committee putting ND at 4 and us at 5 makes me confident Notre Dame has zero room for error.

If we were in OSU's spot at 10, some of these arguments would have merit. But with a debut spot at 5, a game against a ranked PSU team this coming Saturday, and a road game against OSU still on the schedule the Saturday after Thanksgiving, we only need to worry about the outcomes of our games. 

11/01/2018 - 11:44am Ideal scenario for…

Ideal scenario for championship weekend is Bama and Clemson both in, but with 1 loss already. That way a loss eliminates them and doesn't set up "tough call" scenario 3. This would also open up the possibility of Michigan making it in even with an extra loss, as long as they make and win the B1G championship.

This is the correct take.

10/31/2018 - 1:52pm You took my nads, Dennis!

You took my nads, Dennis!

10/31/2018 - 1:23pm Well, to play devil's…

Well, to play devil's advocate, it sounds as though Harbaugh might have been doing a little damage control this morning:

If Rashan and his mother took issue with the way Harbaugh presented things after the MSU game, I can't say I would blame them. It's possible Ms. Coney-Shephard expressed some frustration with the way things were communicated publicly. 

10/31/2018 - 11:45am You're not alone. I think it…

You're not alone. I think it might be BPONE residuals lingering in people's brains. 

People acting as if Alabama would be a lock without even winning its division are being irrational. It was very controversial to take an identically-postured Alabama last year over a TWO-LOSS TEAM. One that had been BLOWN OUT by a mediocre opponent IN NOVEMBER.

It is absolutely not a lock that Alabama would get in in a world where we win out and they fail to win their division. In fact, it is extremely unlikely. An Alabama loss at any time is a good thing, and not just because it's fun. It also gets us one step closer to Alabama dropping another game (like, say, SEC title game after LSU drops one to A&M?) and potentially being out of the hunt completely.

Similarly, anyone thinking we need Notre Dame to win out is also being irrational. We do not need our first-week, one-the-road-at-night loss to be to an undefeated team in order to get in. I have no idea where this line of thinking comes from. An undefeated ND team is eating a playoff spot. That is 100% true. Notre Dame dropping a game to anyone on the remainder of its schedule probably disqualifies it. That's a good thing for Michigan, and our loss to Notre Dame will still be a "good loss."

10/30/2018 - 8:41pm Sorry to say I think you've…

Sorry to say I think you've got just about all of this wrong. 

A Notre Dame loss is very good for us. It almost certainly opens up a playoff spot, at least as things stand today. We would immediately jump them, and we would continue to widen the gap down the stretch if we keep winning (which we're all assuming in any of these scenarios anywag).

An Ohio State loss before Thanksgiving weekend would be enormously positive for Michigan. First goal is to win the conference, and another conference loss for OSU increases the odds of that happening dramatically. 

We don't NEED conference wins from anyone else, so root for chaos and losses to our rivals. That means a more enjoyable final month of the regular season, more pain for our rivals, and no real detriment to us as we're already right where we need to be. 

Chaos is what we want. Upsets and losses to PSU, MSU, and OSU.

10/30/2018 - 8:28pm Because everyone always over…

Because everyone always over Ohio State. Also, another conference loss to OSU gives us some cushion in the conference. Also, we don't need Ohio State to be a great team to boost our resume. They could lose out, and Michigan gets in by winning out.

10/30/2018 - 8:16pm If LSU wins this weekend …

If LSU wins this weekend (they won't), I promise LSU will drop another one, probably to Texas A&M.

A lot of teams are going to lose, and several of those loses will be shocking when they happen. People coming up with nightmare scenarios are just desperate for something to worry about.

If Michigan wins out, we'll be in. That (winning out) is not a given though either. Hell, even Indiana could give us some trouble just like Iowa did two years ago. At least this one is at home. Just win.

10/29/2018 - 9:07am This comment is perfect.

This comment is perfect.

10/27/2018 - 5:35pm He is subsgantsubst bigger.

He is substantially bigger.

10/26/2018 - 12:19pm Think of all of the…

Think of all of the knickknacks you can buy!

10/26/2018 - 12:06pm A lot of people hate money…

A lot of people hate money and want to work for other people for the rest of their lives. 

10/26/2018 - 11:45am I kind of think a Sparty…

I kind of think a Sparty loss this weekend actually increases the odds they beat OSU. First because, well, that's the kind of shit Sparty does. Second because OSU won't see it as a chance to avenge the beating Purdue gave them last weekend. Lastly, a pathetic, crippled Sparty might get overlooked by the Buckeyes. Also, I'm probably just looking for reasons to root for more Sparty misery.

So I'd like to see Sparty lose to Purdue. I'd like to see Iowa break Penn State. Losses by Clemson, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, and Texas would all be good for Michigan. Seeing Georgia continue to slide out of the conversation of the elite would be good too.

10/25/2018 - 12:06pm I am confident that, by…

I am confident that, by December 1, this fear of yours will seem downright silly. A lot is going to happen between now and then. Look at how November goes every year in college football. There's a good chance we're debating whether a two-loss team deserves a spot one month from now. 

10/24/2018 - 4:47pm Why can't legitimate…

Why can't legitimate students get paid? Do you refuse to enjoy college orchestras since some of those students are making money as musicians?

I had a job when I was in undergrad at Michigan that was a stepping stone to the career I was pursuing at the time. Did that make me a less legitimate student?

I love college football. Presumably you do too, and you are allowed to like it for whatever reasons you have. But I can tell you that 0% of my enjoyment on a fall Saturday comes from knowing (or choosing to believe) that the students aren't getting paid.

10/24/2018 - 4:06pm I have some extended family…

I have some extended family in a small town in southwest Michigan called Hamilton. The high school in that town is the Hamilton Hawkeyes, and they used the tigerhawk logo. I remember maybe about 15 years ago some of my cousins were involved in helping to design a new logo because they had received a cease and desist letter from Iowa. So correct, this is not new.

10/24/2018 - 3:55pm They lost to 3-3 Syracuse…

They lost to 3-3 Syracuse last year. They lost to 5-4 Pitt the year before. Hell, they were lucky to get a win over Syracuse this year. 

These things aren't always easy to spot on paper, but that doesn't mean they can't happen.

10/23/2018 - 5:03pm In 2009, Luck (Stanford) ran…

In 2009, Luck (Stanford) ran 61 times for 364 yards. In 2010, he ran 55 times for 453 yards.

For comparison, in 2011, under Shaw, Luck ran 47 times for 150 yards.

If you want to go back further, in 2004, Josh Johnson (USD) ran 86 times for 379 yards. In 2005, he ran 107 times for 720 yards. 

Harbaugh himself rushed for over 100 yards each year he was a full-time starter at Michigan (139 yards in 1985 and 118 yards in 1986).

Having a quarterback who can threaten with his legs is nothing new for Harbaugh. 

10/23/2018 - 6:58am Didn't we win this game? We…

Didn't we win this game? We don't need to think about MSU football until next November. At that point, we can worry about not letting the shutout slip away. Let Sparty handle the hand wringing for the time being.

10/22/2018 - 8:35pm Haha part of the problem…

Haha part of the problem with young people?

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10/22/2018 - 12:57pm I assumed he was joking too…

I assumed he was joking too. Then I saw the second response, and wow. A part of me was kind of hoping it would escalate because anyone claiming to be offended by what you wrote was going to make my already-very-pleasant Monday. 

10/22/2018 - 12:39pm There's so much funny shit…

There's so much funny shit on the internet right now for Michigan fans, and someone potentially being banned from this site over what you wrote might be the funniest of them all.

08/28/2018 - 5:05pm Wow.