PSU still doesn't get it and never will!
After their huge upset of OSU, James Franklin proclaimed that now the "healing process" at PSU can take place. Sure, that makes sense.
Win a big home game as an underdog and all the PTSD, life problems, physical and emotional scars of anal rape can finally now begin to heal because the valiant Nittany Lions won a football game.
Yes James Franklin, this win probably helped you save your job and may help PSU's football program not continue collapsing into complete irrelevance. But really? Is that what healing is?
I would like to say that I am amazed by the complete lack of perspective and sensitivity coming out of "Happy Valley", but I'm not, as once again that sick cult culture fostered at State College exposes itself.
https://twitter.com/brett_hiltbrand/status/790045060356243456?ref_src=t…
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:48 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2016 at 11:14 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2016 at 11:25 AM ^
Healing implies psu was the victim and not comlacent in the crimes. Be proud of your team, don't pretend like winning a football game erases 5 years of trying to diefy a man who looked the other way on child rape so he could keep winning football games.
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:45 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2016 at 11:56 AM ^
October 23rd, 2016 at 2:52 PM ^
The problem with this is that PSU just held a big ceremony honoring the man who enabled the pedophile. They don't want to actually move on, it seems. They want to have their cake (celebrating JoePa's victories) and eat it too (shoving the criminal deeds under the rug).
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:27 AM ^
He really looks like one more coach that can only think of his team and winning football games. A healing process should involve admitting mistakes, making amends and working to avoid repeating those mistakes. Winning games is nice, important for the coach, but the only healing process they relate to is PSU's battle with the NCAA. From their perspective, it's the NCAA that wronged them.
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:37 AM ^
I get what you're saying and I want those involved fucked sideways with pinecones, I am also frustrated by the fanbases inability to come to grips with the past and make a more tangible "never again" commitment. But at the same time this a group of coaches and players that had nothing to do with what happened, are playing for a fan base that wants a team to be proud of again and to them there is a healing aspect and, frankly, coming to.grips with the fact that this level of evil was enabled by something that was so central to their identity is going to be a long and imperfect process. I find this insistence that everyone Don a hair shirt until the end of.time to be a little over the top.
October 23rd, 2016 at 12:04 PM ^
If you're the coach at PSU, you need to choose your words carefully when referencing what they've gone through. It's part of that job in a way that it isn't part of others. That should have been obvious before he accepted it.
There's no reason he and his players can't celebrate victories. I don't think anyone is looking to begrudge them that. But there are areas in which he should tread very carefully. He seems incapable of doing so. One only has to look back at his dishonest whining about negative recruiting during the Big Ten media days. He's all too willing to play the victim.
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:30 AM ^
would call in rape victims and try and hire them to coerce them into not pressing charges. He is absolutely scum and Penn State was completely aware of all of the rape issues he and his team had while he was at Vandy and still elected to hire him. This situation should not be swept away because of the impact it has on a football team or football players that are free to avoid that awful place.
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:40 AM ^
I am not arguing it should be swept away, I just think that Franklin's comments weren't Terrible.
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:18 AM ^
that people forget Jerry Sandusky ever existed or buttraped kids in their football facilities while everyone looked the other way. In this version, the 'real victims' are PSU fans/alumni who as a consequence of the scandal have to endure the criticism and joking from other people and deal with their football program not being very good. The idea is that if PSU is rebuilt as a winning football program, they get back their bragging rights and thus their healing is complete.
But I don't know if this is something unique to Pennsylvania or PSU or rather just human nature at work. The psychology here is toxic, but think about what happened in Catholic churches across the country (and in plenty of other countries) and yet people aren't all going to abandon their religion. For a lot of those guys who went to PSU, they went there with football a big factor, they won't just forget about it and move past it. It's too big a deal for them.
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:20 AM ^
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:34 AM ^
You can't expect people to abandon their devotion to something because of the sins of one (or several) of its leaders. A Catholic's faith or beliefs are not defined by the actions of priests in the same way that a PSU fan's devotion to Penn state football should not be dependent on the actions of a certain few within the program. The reason they've handled it so poorly and so many have not been able to let go and admit that JoePa is a villain is because they have allowed the man to be bigger than the program for so long. To them JoePa is the religion, not Penn state football. They're basically like the DPRK. Their original "dear leader" Kim il-sung, who died over 20 years ago is still their president.
October 23rd, 2016 at 12:27 PM ^
October 23rd, 2016 at 2:53 PM ^
Continuing to spend lots and lots of money from the diocese to cover up decades of crimes doesn't exactly seem to be fixing the problem. This is a laughably rosy portrayal of the crimes of the Catholic church and the response. They had to have their faces beat in by the authorities and were dragged kicking and screaming the entire way, and there are still probably plenty of hidden raping priests out there.
October 23rd, 2016 at 6:33 PM ^
You're completely ignorant about what goes on inside a diocese and among the laity. That's unfortunate.
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:52 AM ^
Almost certainly human nature. It's why I don't participate in the apparent contest to see who can express the most outrage at the most people. People always judge other people and organizations first by how they themselves were treated. We rush to see the good in those we know and the bad in those we don't. It's not much different, IMO, how we might cuss out somebody who cut us off in traffic for being a brainless fucking imbecile with no regard for others, yet instantly forgive our own friends and relatives if they did the same thing.
I don't jump on the fuck-PSU outrage bandwagon, not because what happened wasn't outrageous, but because it could've happened anywhere. I don't think there's anything uniquely perverted about Penn State fans, or for that matter Paterno, I just think human nature in general is what caused Paterno to do something other than immediately take a flamethrower to Sandusky upon hearing the accusations. When you've worked side by side with someone for 40 years, it's easy to brush aside whispers and an accusation in favor of your daily personal interactions. Similar concept for their fans. There are cults of personality at dozens of schools, because that's what college football has done for everyone, and I suspect a similar thing would happen if Bear Bryant, Woody Hayes, Bobby Bowden, John Wooden, or various other personalities had been accused of the same thing.
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:18 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2016 at 11:34 AM ^
are they healing from?
And why are they still worshipping Joe Pa?
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:19 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2016 at 11:32 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2016 at 11:28 AM ^
Germans don't claim Hitler really didn't know what was going on and was just doing what every world leader would do and do best for his country and talk about healing as they succesfully conquer another country. They acknowledged that nazis sucked, psu hasn't acknowledged joepa is a piece of shit human who put football above the welfare of kids.
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:32 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2016 at 11:30 AM ^
I negged you for terrible writing, "don't jump on me and nag it just idea what going on right now"...
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:38 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2016 at 11:31 AM ^
Several million Germans died in the war and its immediate aftermath, many were prosecuted thereafter for what happened. Germany was militarily occupied, divided and essentially deprived of its sovereignty for over 40 years. They denounced the old leadership, made supporting the old leadership a crime and struggled for decades with re-defining their identity and to this day are widely considered the villains of that time period and Germns mostly are ready to accept that fact.
Meanwhile PSU fans deny their leadership had anything to do with the crimes and are unwilling to accept even moderate consequences for their football program or university. They consider themselves the greatest victims because the rest of the world didn't just agree with them on that and they actually had to face a certain amount of embarrassment and negative consequences. "Some kids got raped? Big deal, we lost 6 games two years in a row!"
Consider that PSU didn't even crater or got hit with extreme penalties. They're above .500 since the scandal broke. Our last year with Hoke was worse than any of theirs since the scandal. Yet they're the victims who need our sympathy until they're finally back contending for NCs?
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:35 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2016 at 6:52 PM ^
Many people in Germany took real steps to make amends -- on a national level paying reparations to Holocaust victims, on more local levels rebuilding synagogues for Jews who returned, sponsoring exhibits of art by Holocaust victims, forming German-Israeli friendship societies. It doesn't take away from what happened of course, but that was true "healing."
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:20 AM ^
They'll never get it.
Love to see OSU lose, but this win couldn't have happened to a worse program.
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October 23rd, 2016 at 11:28 AM ^
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:55 AM ^
for the young boys who were raped is much more improtant than winning any football game.
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:29 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2016 at 11:32 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2016 at 11:49 AM ^
Anything else is bullshit. It's not difficult to understand.
October 23rd, 2016 at 12:17 PM ^
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October 23rd, 2016 at 11:34 AM ^
I wish it was anyone else but Penn State who upset OSU up to this point.
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:40 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2016 at 11:44 AM ^
Wouldn't that have been something? I was so sad they let that W slip through their fingers.
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:58 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2016 at 11:36 AM ^
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:41 AM ^
I and many other people on this board don't think PSU football should exist any more.
I also think that the best way for them to heal would be for them to no longer have a football program and let time heal the wounds.
October 23rd, 2016 at 12:28 PM ^
According to ESPN, Penn State surveyed alumni and 91% believed the school should publicly recognize Joe Paterno.
https://twitter.com/BlueBarronPhoto/status/776808516002668545
October 23rd, 2016 at 4:33 PM ^
Ummmm... yes they are!
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:39 AM ^