OT: Spanier Convicted of Misdemeanor Child Endangerment

OT: Spanier Convicted of Misdemeanor Child Endangerment

Submitted by vertiGoBlue on March 24th, 2017 at 6:59 PM

As per subject, Graham Spanier, ex-PSU president has been convicted of one count of misdemeanor child endangerment. He was acquitted of a charge of conspiracy and a 2nd child endangerment charge.

Here's a write-up on PennLive. Not a lot of info, but perhaps more will emerge soon.

PSU still doesn't get it and never will!

PSU still doesn't get it and never will!

Submitted by Hard-Baughlls on October 23rd, 2016 at 10:56 AM

After their huge upset of OSU, James Franklin proclaimed that now the "healing process" at PSU can take place.  Sure, that makes sense.  

Win a big home game as an underdog and all the PTSD, life problems, physical and emotional scars of anal rape can finally now begin to heal because the valiant Nittany Lions won a football game.

Yes James Franklin, this win probably helped you save your job and may help PSU's football program not continue collapsing into complete irrelevance.  But really?  Is that what healing is?  

I would like to say that I am amazed by the complete lack of perspective and sensitivity coming out of "Happy Valley", but I'm not, as once again that sick cult culture fostered at State College exposes itself.




Joe Paterno Family to Sue NCAA

Joe Paterno Family to Sue NCAA

Submitted by bluebyyou on May 30th, 2013 at 8:20 AM

The story which never seems to end is back in the news. The Paterno family and certain other trustees are suing the NCAA over the Freeh report, etc.  What is interesting is that Penn State itself is not part of the suit.  Bob Costas was to have had a segment on the suit last night, but I didn't see it.

The suit is designed "to redress the NCAA's 100 percent adoption of the Freeh Report and imposition of a binding consent decree against Penn State University. The reality is that consent decree was imposed through coercion and threats behind the scenes and there was no ability for anyone to get redress," Sollers told Costas.


Note:  I assume this is not OT as it is B1G-related.  

Paterno Investigation Finds the Real OJ Killers

Paterno Investigation Finds the Real OJ Killers

Submitted by Gameboy on February 10th, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Paterno family has released their own investigation today (in coordination with ESPN as it seems since they did such a great job with Te'o).

You can read about it here

And surprise, surprise, they find Paterno completely innocent of all allegation, scouts honor.

The "report" basically is a what a defense attorney would argue if this was tried as a criminal case in a court of law. They are arguing that none of the evidence the Freeh Report is beyond reasonable doubt. Which is correct since Freeh Report was never meant to be beyond a reasonable doubt. It was more like a Civil Case conclusion where you just need more than likely as the basis. Shift the goalpost and it is easier to score, go figure.

Here are parts of the new report pretty much says all you need to know

There is another troublesome email implicating Coach Paterno that the Paterno family experts challenge. In February 2001, Spanier, Schultz and Curley met to figure out an action plan about the McQueary allegation that he saw Sandusky assaulting a boy in the shower. The options, according to Schultz's notes: report it to the Pennsylvania Department of Child Welfare, tell the chairman of the board of Sandusky's charity, The Second Mile, and tell Sandusky "to avoid bringing children alone into Lasch Bldg."

Two days later, Curley reported he had changed his mind about the action plan "after giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe [Paterno] yesterday." Curley decided to talk with Sandusky: If Sandusky was cooperative, they would inform The Second Mile, and not alert authorities. And if he was not cooperative, Curley said then, "We don't have a choice and will inform the authorities."

Spanier agreed to this approach, saying, "The only downside for us if the message isn't 'heard' and acted upon, and we then become vulnerable for not having reported it. But that can be assessed down the road. The approach you outline is humane and a reasonable way to proceed."

All three of the Paterno family's experts say this single email is insufficient grounds for Freeh to have concluded that Paterno conspired to cover up the 2001 incident. "The report falls glaringly short of suggesting, let alone proving, any concealment by Mr. Paterno," Thornburgh writes in the report.

Insufficient? By whose standard? Seems pretty damning to most people who read it. If I say it is a cold day today, I think these people would also argue that that statement is insufficient to conclude that today is cold

I am sure the folks at Black Shoe Diaries are celebrating this "report" like a Fourth of July today.

Is it still too late to kick them out of our conference?

OT: Sandusky sentenced to 30-60 years

OT: Sandusky sentenced to 30-60 years

Submitted by cheesheadwolverine on October 9th, 2012 at 11:00 AM


Not much to see here, I think we all knew that he was going to get an effective life-sentence, him being 68, and he did, but thought it was worth mentioning since it is pretty major, if totally sordid, CFB news. 

He repeated his claims of innocence, FWIW.

McQueary files new lawsuits - PSU/Sandusky

McQueary files new lawsuits - PSU/Sandusky

Submitted by Blazefire on October 3rd, 2012 at 10:36 AM

I know we just want this to be over, but I thought this should be covered, because it's new PSU stupidity. If you don't want to hear anymore about it, stop reading now. At this point, you have to wonder how much more PSU's athletic department can take.

I'm not sure if these are two independent suits, or flipsides of the same suit, but it reads like they are independent, which I think would make sense. They can be filed independently, and then that gives him two shots to win. Can an MGoLawyer confirm if that makes sense? Filing two separate lawsuits that each have the same final aim if there is a separate legal tennent for filing each one?

First off:

McQueary files whistleblower lawsuit

Evidently, McQueary was shocked to find out he was the ONLY member of the football coaching staff A: not offered a chance to interview for his old job under the new head coach, and B: to not have his legal fees covered by the university.

Now, the legal fees thing might not have merrit, because as I recall, McQueary electeed to get his own laywer rather than be represented by the university, because he feared the legal association (I could be wrong on that. I can't find a source that confirms it). However, if the univeristy paid for anybody else's independent lawyers, then that ones got legs.

The other issue, not being interviewed for his old job under a new coach, leaves them with no legal recourse, I think. If they had made a clean break, and told everybody from the old staff, "We're cleaning house, 100%", they might be okay. But to only leave him out? Do they not have a legal staff in their HR department over there?

Seeking: $4 Million, Legal Fees

Suit two:

McQueary files defamation suit

In this case, McQueary states that the Three Stooges - Spanier, Curley and Shulltz, worked together in public and behind university closed doors to discredit McQueary and make him a scapegoat and clearly indicated on several occasions that McQueary was a liar. He claims that this has ruined his reputation for honesty and dedication in the local and higher-education communities.

Seeking: $4 Million, Reinstatement, Lost Bowl Bonus, Legal Fees, Back Pay and Benefits

Paterno Family Requests Review of the NCAA Decison

Paterno Family Requests Review of the NCAA Decison

Submitted by bluebyyou on August 3rd, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Well folks, we hadn't heard from the Paterno family for a few days, but fear not, they are back at it.  This time, they are requesting a review of the NCAA sanctions. Where this could lead is somewhat interesting in that they seem to be able, depending upon how the NCAA responds, to take them to court.


I believe this isthe pertinent portion of their position and where it might lead:

"Sollers argues in the letter that the NCAA was wrong to suspend its usual infractions committee procedures and accept the findings of the Penn State-commissioned Freeh Report. The report by former FBI director Louis B. Freeh found that Paterno, former Penn State president Graham Spanier, athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz concealed the activities of Sandusky, who was convicted by a jury on June 22 of 45 counts of child sexual abuse.

NCAA spokesman Bob Williams did not immediately respond to a request for a comment. But if the NCAA rejects the request for an appeal hearing, the Paterno family could use the request as the basis for legal action against the NCAA."

/Edit  I also came across a very interesting piece on the negotiations between Penn State and the NCAA - long but worth the read:


52% of PSU households call NCAA sanctions too severe

52% of PSU households call NCAA sanctions too severe

Submitted by BlueinDC on August 2nd, 2012 at 10:00 AM



A Quinnipiac University/CBS News/New York Times poll found that over half of Pennsylvania households that include either a Penn State graduate or a member of the family who attends the school believe the NCAA sanctions against the school are too severe.
Fifty-two percent of PA households affiliated with the university said the penalties against the school were too severe. Thirty-two percent of Penn State households said the penalties were appropriate, while 12 percent said they weren't severe enough.
(As a point of reference, a "Penn State household" was defined for the purposes of this survey as individuals from a household that said that they, or anyone in their family, had graduated from Penn State -- or, alternatively, anyone who said an individual in their family was currently attending the school. Twenty-four percent of Pennsylvanians said they or someone in their family had graduated from PSU; 6 percent of respondents said a member of their family was currently attending Penn State.)
Overall, 44 percent of all Pennsylvania adults called the penalties too severe, versus 33 percent who call the sanctions appropriate, and 14 percent who call them insufficient.
Among Pennsylvanians who have children under the age of 18, 41 percent called the NCAA sanctions appropriate, 40 percent called them too severe and 13 percent said they were not enough.



Submitted by BILG on July 27th, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Yes, this is another PSU/Sandusky post.  Sorry, I know many of you are annoyed with this topic already, but I feel the need to post for my own sanity.  It is my first post on this subject for what it's worth.

How many of you have visited http://www.blackshoediaries.com/ since the NCAA sanctions came down?  I have to say it is truly another universe.  The shit I see over there is insane.  It really is the Joe Pa cult at its worst.  The overwhelming theme is of being slighted and victims of the NCAA.  I would post examples, but there are just too many.  You can go over to the site and pretty much every post and comment has to do with the NCAA taking their sacred football away.  From not believing the Freeh report to stil denying that it was a "football" scandal, I have never seen such a deluded group outside of scientology.

I really hope this is just the fringe of Nittany Lion fans.  These people really "do not get it."  I can't emphasize enough how bizarre and twighlight zone like it is to read through their material.  I started to question my own reality for just a moment, then snapped out of it, remembering kids were raped and their god-like worship was for a man who enabled and hid the horrific acts.

I feel it is way too early for anyone on that campus or in that community to feel "cheated" by anyone other than the prior leadership.  Their venom towards their current President and Board of directors for not "fighting" for the university's rights is ludicrous.  They still fail to realize that you lose any moral authority when you enable a child rapist for over a decade. 

It's called collateral damage, and it tends to happen in places that never challenge or question the status quo, but instead enable it through hero worship.  To me, these fans, while not guilty of the crimes or the coverup, are getting exactly what they deserve.  Were they more contrite about the scandal or focused on the victims, I would have much more sympathy.  But the fact that their precious football is still the #1 issue suggests that maybe the NCAA did not go far enough.  A four year death penalty is perhaps what they really deserved.

A Song for the Season 2012 - "The Game of College Football"

A Song for the Season 2012 - "The Game of College Football"

Submitted by Blazefire on July 25th, 2012 at 1:43 AM

As many of you know, for the last two years, I've done "A Song for the Season" about a month before CFB season begins. I try to capture a feeling for the off-season and what we can expect in the coming season. Two years ago, it was "This'll be the day that we try", as we struggled to overcome the letdowsn of 2008 and 2009. Last year,  things were looking so far up, so I brought to you "Michigan, Guaranteed!"

This season it seems to me that no matter what any team does, we're not going to be getting out from under the pall of PSU reporting any time soon. It's almost farcical or erethral how much it permeates everything. Towards that end, I bring you, "The Game of College Football", to the tune of "Hotel California".


With an off-season gone by,
bad news on the tube.
Stories of misdeeds and mistrust,
homages paid to soon.
Far off in the future,
I saw a shimmering sign.
As my head grew heavy and my soul grew weak,
I thought it looked just fine.
I had reached the new season,
there it stood before me.
But the foul news still came up like before!
Will we ever be free?
Then came opening night,
a game with full fanfare.
Maybe we had passed it yet,
then the announcer declared…

Welcome to the new era of college football.
Such a lovely game
Such a crying shame
Plenty of news in the game of college football.
Can’t escape the bad
Don’t it make you mad!

The games now Gerry-tainted.
Can’t stop the Sandusky screams.
Full of lots of ugly crimes, a snake in the weeds.
People that don’t know the game now,
they come to make threats.
Some scream for bloody revenge, they haven’t stopped yet!

So I dialed up the Victors
“Please bring me good news.”
They said, “We could win the Championship and not escape these blues!”
And still those voices are calling from the TV.
Turn on Sports Center looking for sports news,
But instead all you see…

Welcome to the new era of college football.
Such a lovely game
Such a crying shame
Plenty of news in the game of college football.
Can’t escape the bad
Don’t it make you mad!

Seems not a single story
can get clear of PSU.
They said, “We’re finished for a decade,
aren’t you glad it’s not you?!”
And still the press gathers in the darkness,
not done with their feast.
Oh they hash it and rehash it still,
but the stories just keep getting released!

If we look to the future,
we can see clear air once more.
We hope our sport finds its way back
to the place we loved before.
“Oh no” says the TV, in yet another attack.
“You can clean up everything again,
but you can never go back!”