superstringer

October 4th, 2016 at 1:52 PM ^

He isnt predicting it to happen. He wss merely andwering the question: if two teams come out of the same conference, who will they be? He gave a logical answer, among the available choices. But I dont think he relishes the scenario--hence his reference to pur game "sucking the air" out of CFB that weekend.



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MGOTokyo

October 4th, 2016 at 1:52 PM ^

If Washington continues strong, after their signature win this past weekend, there is no way to keep them out.  + 1 SEC team (Bama),  + one ACC team with either 1 or 2 losses.  I can't see a BIG runner-up getting in, even with only one loss.  

lhglrkwg

October 4th, 2016 at 3:04 PM ^

Like a 12-1 Michigan/OSU winner losing to a 11-2 Nebraska in the B1G title game thus eliminating the Big Ten, Houston losing to Louisville, and the Pac12 and Big12 both coming out with 2-loss champions as well. Only then could I see an undefeated Clemson and a 1-loss Louisville sneaking in

FA_Wolverine

October 4th, 2016 at 2:03 PM ^

College football live just had the percent chance to win the playoffs up. Michigan was not in the top 7. Louisville is ahead of us to win it....



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Sommy

October 4th, 2016 at 2:18 PM ^

I don't see it likely happening, but if OSU continues to look as good as they currently look, but UM manages to win in Columbus, I could MAYBE see it happening. If we roll into Columbus and lose, it's not happening.



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ijohnb

October 4th, 2016 at 4:15 PM ^

the scenario would be that we beat OSU by a slim margin but then get smashed by the West champion who already has too many losses for consideration (Wisky, Nebraska).  So, the BIG could feasibly have a CFP representative (OSU) who did not win the conference.  I guess it is not impossible, but certainly close to implausible.

TrueBlue2003

October 5th, 2016 at 12:23 AM ^

would or could happen.  Nearly impossible to see them bypassing the division champ and winner of a game AT the team in question AND the conference champ who smashed the team that beat the team in question.  They'd be the third team in the conference pecking order and would have no chance of getting in.

The only way a team that isn't a conference champ is getting into the playoff is if the winner of the conference also gets in and is extremely strong, which is why Louisville, Michigan and OSU have a chance this year but only if the ACC or B1G champ goes undefeated and also get in.

charblue.

October 4th, 2016 at 2:19 PM ^

was gping to be Herbie. But I guess he still thinks Michigan is a year away from competing with Ohio State. You know, Michigan still needs time to develop all that Harbaugh talent from New Jersey.

reddogrjw

October 4th, 2016 at 2:27 PM ^

if OU (or someone) is the Big 12 champ with 3 losses as well as the Pac 12 champ

 

then an 11-1 Louisville or Michigan/OSU would get in over a 3 loss Oklahoma or Washington

 

doubt an 11-1 team that did not win its conference gets in over an 11-2 team that did

Ecky Pting

October 4th, 2016 at 2:30 PM ^

I would think if M were to win that game, OSU would be out even if the margin of victory is small. Assuming the current double-digit line holds up, an M win in Columbus would be a considerable upset. On the other hand, if M loses narrowly, as in '06, I think both might make it to the CFP.

s1105615

October 4th, 2016 at 2:40 PM ^

The way I see it is that there doens't need to be too much church in the polls for this to be a likely scenario.  This is predicated on UM and OSU both winning out except for The Game.  The winner of the The Game then must win the B1G Championship Game.  Then the following must occur:

1.  Louisville beats Houston (eliminates Houston from CFP)

2.  ACC Champ finishes with 2 losses

3.  Baylor loses a game in the Big XII (eliminates Big XII as reasonable consideration for CFP)

4.  Tennessee loses both games to Alabama (Alabama is in the CFP) 

5.  PAC 12 Champ has 2 losses (puts the champion squarely behind either UM or OSU in final rankings)

How likely are all these things?  I don't know, but I know college sports are crazy and stranger things have happened.  I think #1 is most likely, followed by #4, then #2.  Let's assume for the sake of argument that Washington finishes undefeated.  That still leaves 1 open Playoff spot between the B1G East runner up, with one loss to a Top 3 team (ala Alabam and LSU circa whenever that was) against the "Champion" of a lousy conference who will likely have 0 quality wins and a 2 loss Tennessee or ACC Champ.

At that point, who would you choose out of those 3?

 

As a personal note, I don't think you deserve to be in the Playoff if you can't win your conference, let alone division.  In this scenario I would rather give the #1 seed a bye as no other team has proven itself worthy of the spot, but would actually feel compelled to give it to the 1 loss Big Xii champ as a sacrificial lamb for the #1 seed.

 

 

South TX MFan

October 4th, 2016 at 4:00 PM ^

Now that Clemson has beaten Louisville I don't see them losing 2 games so #2 is out. I see the ACC, SEC, and Big10 champs getting in with the only chance of the Big10 East runner up having any chance is the Pac12 or Big12 Champ getting 2 losses, which is possible.



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MotownGoBlue

October 4th, 2016 at 2:55 PM ^

And for our next thread we'll discuss Big Ten tiebreakers: (1+u2)uxx−2uxuyuxy+(1+u2x)uyy=0 1 u 2 u x x 2 u x u y u x y 1 u x 2 u y y x+uyy−(1+|Du|2)−1(u2xuxx+2uxuyuxy+u2yuyy)=0 u x x u y y 1 D u 2 1 u x 2 u x x 2 u x u y u x y u y 2 u y y 0 where ux=∂u(x,y)∂x,uy=∂u(x,y)∂y u x ∂ u x y ∂ x u y ∂ u x y ∂ y . Generally, for domains Ω ⊂ ℝ n and functions Ω → ℝ depend

Imjesayin

October 4th, 2016 at 3:01 PM ^

Just logged in to say...

Fuck Paul Finebaum. Nice that he pulled his smooth head out of Saban's ass long enough to say something positive about Michigan. 

Minus The Houma

October 4th, 2016 at 3:22 PM ^

I can't see Michigan making it with a loss to OSU. However if Michigan wins in an epic game I think it is possible that Ohio State makes it. Obviously as said they would need help with other teams losing. I think the other conference champs would have to have 2 loses.

Paladin29

October 4th, 2016 at 3:52 PM ^

I don't know why everyone is giving Finebaum so much attention. He's obviously a openly biased SEC affiliate who makes a living saying things to get southern fans' attention. He doesn't believe both Michigan and OSU will make it. He's probably rooting for a Bama, A&M, Tenn, and UF 4-SEC-team playoff.

It won't matter what he says if Michigan throws down on the Suckeyes at the end of the season. GO BLUE!

Sam1863

October 4th, 2016 at 6:28 PM ^

Sorry, but if I didn't give a shit about the opinion of the SEC's Head Jocksniffer when he called us pathetic and whining, I'm sure not gonna care now.

Now run along, Paul - and go put on a hat before somebody jerks you off.

M-Dog

October 4th, 2016 at 7:02 PM ^

A one-loss Michigan or Ohio State that did not win the Big Ten is not getting in over a one-loss champion from another conference.  Period.

That scenario - when Alabama played LSU in the NC - was the reason the CFP was started in the first place.

There would have to be conferences with 2-loss champions for that to happen.

 

Ty Butterfield

October 4th, 2016 at 7:34 PM ^

Have to beat OSU and win the Big Ten or it isn't happening. Sucks but that is just the way it is. Not sure if Michigan can beat OSU as long as Meyer is there.

I dumped the Dope

October 5th, 2016 at 3:32 AM ^

for the first but minus you for the second.

They are beatable.  

As a kid I played against a Juggernaut baseball team in the great city of Ann Arbor.  Meaning from about 10 years old on they had never lost a game. Ever.  They had some athletes who were men amongst boys if you get what I mean, and some sketchy stuff to linkup elementary school districts (how the system was organized) which were not geographically joined to concentrate said players.

However, our coach went into the season, we were probably 15yo or so, with a Hoke-style mentality focusing every resource on that eventual meeting.  I think he literally ruined his elbow for the rest of his life throwing batting practice from really close to simulate the speed of the strong arms.  It wasn't 5 hits and change batters, it was around 50 balls per batter every time we practiced + a thousand more off tees while we waited.

And, at Vets Park, on a cool evening, the good guys won, not by miracle or fluke, but by hard work and preparation, understanding your opponent and having an edge to exploit.

It can be done.