EGD

October 8th, 2015 at 12:51 PM ^

Yeah, let's look at the pros & cons here:

Pros of adding Rutgers:

  • Better chance of landing elite NJ recruits like Jabrill Peppers, Ahmir Mitchell, and Rashan Gary
  • Probable easy W on conference schedule every season
  • Road game within rubber-band-shooting distance of NYC every other year

Cons of adding Rutgers:

  • Strength of schedule metric ticks down
  • Can no longer make fun of Sparty for being the most felonious B1G team
  • Do not have a free spot with which to add a more attractive 14th team

Personally, since I dig the NJ recruiting and to me the most important factor is "if I attend a road game against this opponent, where will I be," I don't mind the Rutgers addition at all.  But I can see how others might disagree.

 

M-Dog

October 8th, 2015 at 12:38 PM ^

The Big Ten East is a killer for them though.  They could be a quality team and finish fifth every year.  The locals have decided in their own minds that they are above that.  Their expectations are misaligned with reality.

Wolverine In Exile

October 8th, 2015 at 1:00 PM ^

leaves Mich St and Penn St continues to flounder, I could see Maryland challenge for 3rd place in the division. It wasn't that long ago that Mich St was a tire fire. If Mark Hollis leaves Mich St, Dantonio has another health event and there's not a ready-built replacement in the wings, Michigan St could easily drop back down in quality.

EGD

October 8th, 2015 at 1:03 PM ^

Makes for an interesting comparison with Nebraska.  Like MD, Nebraska fans seem to think the way things went in the 90s (with TWO national championships) should be their norm--hence their dissatisfaction with Pelini.  Given their past success it's at least understandable why they would feel that way, but the difficulties of recruiting in that area of the country are pretty difficult to overcome.  

Eberwhite82

October 9th, 2015 at 10:30 AM ^

I don't think the "locals" give a shit, frankly. They care more about the men's soccer program than this football team. (That's a stretch, but I can gaurantee it is the case for basketball.) The women's basketball team is routinely featured on the local news (in the 8th biggest tv market). There hasn't been any buzz around this football program since the early Friedgen years.

The Bobby Ross era had some sizzle and folks here probably don't remember that MD and Clemson routinely battled it out for the ACC title through most of the 70s and 80s. But after Ross, the program suffered through a very long period of mediocrity. Friedgen started rebuilding but his last three seasons were erratic and he absolutely lost the boosters at some point.

But I don't know any MD fans who have this elevated self-worth of which you speak.

 

Pepto Bismol

October 8th, 2015 at 11:51 AM ^

If I'm Chip Kelly, there's probably no worse spot for me than to ride a clunker like Maryland into the same division where Dantonio, Meyer and Harbaugh are (hopefully) already in full stride.

Getting housed 3 times a year minimum seems like a bad way to build.  I'd follow the RichRod (Arizona) formula.  Go somewhere warm and attractive and out-spread some cupcakes.

cp4three2

October 8th, 2015 at 12:06 PM ^

If he wants to continue living in a major city, Maryland is a perfect spot for him. Texas isn't firing Strong and South Carolina is in just as bad a spot as Maryland without the leeway for him to build or the money. If Kelly wants to live in a city near where he's from, Maryland's it. Maryland is basically the Arizona of the Big Ten and Arizona is probably in the toughest division on college football. 

M-Dog

October 8th, 2015 at 12:43 PM ^

The Rich Rod formula's days are numbered.  He's looking at getting housed 3 times a year minimum too with a recovering USC, a resurgent UCLA, and Utah stepping up.  And then ASU is always going to play them tough too.  The only thing he has going for him is the AZ fanbase expectations are not out of line like Maryland's are  . . . yet.

Pepto Bismol

October 8th, 2015 at 4:38 PM ^

(removing the "edge" off the post - sorry!)

 

I'm just saying the Big Ten East is probably one of the toughest divisions in football.  I don't know why a coach would take a dogsh** program like Maryland and drive his coaching career off into 4th place obscurity.

Arizona's division is having a good year, but Utah is 19-18 the 3 years prior to this year's hot start.  And USC under anyone since Carroll has been a roller coster of middling success.  UCLA's been pretty good under Mora, but they haven't been any better than the friggin' Alamo Bowl.  

None of these programs have been nearly as good as MSU - and MSU hasn't been as good as OSU, and all of us feel Harbaugh has the ability to trump them all. 

There's going to be "competition" everywhere.  I'm just saying I probably wouldn't voluntarily take over a perennial doormat and march into the same division as (again, hopefully) 3 of the hottest college football programs in the nation. 

Hell, he can probably take Oregon back in a few months. Or Miami when they fire Golden. You're Chip Kelly and you'd rather take over Maryland than Miami?  And recruit to South Beach and try to topple a division currently being run by Duke Football? Or Texas, or even wait for Nebraska, or take your pick of which SEC team opens up next (Arkansas? Tennessee? Auburn? South Carolina?)

If you want to take on a tough division, at least take a program that has a pulse. 

(sigh) 

Friggin' Maryland. 

 

alum96

October 8th, 2015 at 11:26 AM ^

Hopefully OSU's newer DC who actually knows how to do his job unlike Fickell.

It could actually be a good job if you get a good coach.  By the way I wonder if this impacts Haskins at QB - he is one of the top Qbs in the country and shocked many by going to MD.  Would look great in Maize and Blue. ;)  Unfort OSu was his 2nd choice so if this pushes him to flip to OSU that would suck.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/terps/tracking-the-terps/bal-dwayne-…

jimmyshi03

October 8th, 2015 at 11:25 AM ^

Was the Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma. They were emerging as a solid program, basically a public BC. The Maryland search was a weird one, as at first it seemed a foregone conclusion Leach would get it. And they probably shouldn't have had an opening anyway, as Ralph Friedgen had just had his best season in years, going 8-4 and then winning a bowl game.

jimmyshi03

October 8th, 2015 at 12:06 PM ^

Kay Yow, didn't get along with either guy, since both were not her hires. Gary seems to have willingly left, since he came in under Anderson, but the Friedgen thing was complicated by James Franklin, who was guaranteed $1 million if he was not head coach by date certain. He wasn't, because they'd had that downturn it it would have been hard to dump an alum for a coordinator in unsuccessful years. Franklin ended up taking Vandy.

Wolverine In Exile

October 8th, 2015 at 1:05 PM ^

and the UA founder who's a Maryland alum wanted Leach since they had formed a relationship from Leach's Texas Tech days (TT was an early adopter of UA's football equipment / uniform package). Maryland's administration scuttled the idea because Leach was still in the afterglow of the scandal with the Son of the Guy Who Allegedy Killed Five Hookers at SMU and thought he was toxic.

WolverineHistorian

October 8th, 2015 at 11:38 AM ^

There was much grumbling about that team going to the Fiesta Bowl because they were unranked.  But BCS rules stated they HAD to accept a Big East team so UConn went. 

Stat wise, Michigan had their worst defense in school history that year and we still held UConn to 10 points.  Although I do remember them losing a fumble from the 6 in that game. 

But your overall point is still right.  Edsall got that program from 4-7 to a consistent 8-5 every year with a 9-4 year in-between.  

MI Expat NY

October 8th, 2015 at 12:09 PM ^

He was ok.  Only two winning Big East seasons in seven seasons.  Granted, that was only four years after transitioning to FBS.  Only got a couple non-conference wins of note (bad Notre Dame and South Carolina teams).  Only beat one ranked opponent while at UConn (a USF team that climed to #2 before dropping three straight and ultimately finishing out of the polls).

I would guess that he left UConn because he felt like he was a good coach and the best he could do at UConn was beat the teams he was supposed to beat but never be talented enough to really do anything special.  Turns out, he just wasn't a very good coach.