Braxton Injury- Day 2
The other thread is getting too long to dig through and there is new information out. The official report is a dislocated shoulder with the MRI results coming this morning. A dislocated shoulder on a non contact throw sounds like doom for Miller's season. Get healthy and have a long successful career in the pros Braxton.
August 19th, 2014 at 10:09 AM ^
And I wonder why Clark wouldn't strip the ball! Looking a gift horse in the mouth.
August 19th, 2014 at 9:04 AM ^
Every time I see this hit I want to scream, "JUST PUNCH THE BALL OUT!!!"
August 19th, 2014 at 9:48 AM ^
The longer version shows Clark hesitate for a split second, like he anticipates a juke - or can't believe Miller is unaware. After hours of watching the gif, I sincerely believe Clark would have ended Miller if not for that hesitation.
August 19th, 2014 at 10:14 AM ^
I asked Frank if he dreamt of that hit. His response, "Nope. I dream of hitting him harder." Unfortunately, it would appear that another hit will only live on in Frank's dreams.
August 19th, 2014 at 10:59 AM ^
and launch by Frank on that play..... you know Braxton was hurting after that hit....Rivalries they are the stuff that legends are made of.
August 19th, 2014 at 11:51 AM ^
I've probably seen that gif a hundred times now between highlights, gifs, etc. and I still cannot believe he didn't fumble.
As I type now I am watching the gif and am still amazed he held onto the ball
August 19th, 2014 at 8:53 AM ^
August 19th, 2014 at 9:16 AM ^
Did he learn that from Aaron Craft?
Seriously, I wish him a quick recovery and as someone who has dislocated both shoulders while playinig football, he won't be able to throw ten feet for a while. Best of luck to him and if nothing else, the CFL would love to have him...they collect former Ohio quarterbacks...see Troy Smith.
#Go Blue
August 19th, 2014 at 8:57 AM ^
August 19th, 2014 at 8:57 AM ^
August 19th, 2014 at 9:00 AM ^
This is just a clean-up thread because yesterday's turned into a mess. Braxton's injury is far more relevant to our coming season than news about Joe Mixon, Johnny Manziel, Doug Fister, or Hawaii football. The fact that we're eager for news about the best player in our conference doesn't mean that we're falling into Sparty-level obsession about our rivals.
August 19th, 2014 at 9:14 AM ^
I was wondering last night if Eleven Warriors would have crashed if not for all the Michigan fans who visited. Hell, I wonder if Eleven Warriors would have crashed if not for the 20 million times that I tried to visit.
August 19th, 2014 at 8:56 AM ^
Best comment on elevenwarriors:
I've never awaited a HIPAA violation as much as I am today.
August 19th, 2014 at 9:03 AM ^
when a player goes on scholarship? I'd think there would have to be something in writing when a scholarship is accepted, similar to when an NFL contract is signed, given that injury reports are mandated by the NFL.
August 19th, 2014 at 9:09 AM ^
doesn't have to say anything.
There are usually enough people hanging around a program that word gets out.
August 19th, 2014 at 9:52 AM ^
[insert obligatory comments about not talking to the NCAA]
August 19th, 2014 at 8:57 AM ^
I wish Braxton best of luck with the recovery and his future...
I am just not sold that braxton's absence will spell doom for the oh st season..
their backup qb's are quite talented (even though I didnt realize that the guiton guy is gone) ...cardale jones seems scary, but he hasnt figured out passing yet.....
however, j.t. barrett leads jones ....it will be nice to see a post comparing the remaining QBs on the buckeye roster. (pro/dual etc)
August 19th, 2014 at 9:09 AM ^
is rather easy as well
August 19th, 2014 at 8:57 AM ^
August 19th, 2014 at 9:04 AM ^
Was his spring surgery to repair that?
If so, re-dislocating it is a huge deal and he probably won't be back, ever, right?
Can we get some MGoDocs to weigh in?
Also, I'm not sure Barnett will suck. The bucks will still be a huge challenge in The Game without Braxton. The game is there, our Oline looks shabby, and their Dline is top notch.
August 19th, 2014 at 9:10 AM ^
Orange Bowl, but I'm pretty sure he banged it up at least once last fall and a couple times the year before. He's taken some awfully hard knocks on that shoulder, along with at least one concussion.
August 19th, 2014 at 9:12 AM ^
as best I can and get ready for the NFL. I can't see taking another chance on injury in college. I'm not sure what the market might be, however if he can get past the physical he could get at least one contract.
August 19th, 2014 at 9:35 AM ^
I agree. Though if the NFL doesn't work out, he still has a bright future fighting crime with Danny Glover.
August 19th, 2014 at 10:07 AM ^
Take a year off for a dislocated shoulder and he will be undrafted free agent style at an NFL camp.
August 19th, 2014 at 9:15 AM ^
I had thought that the initial injury was suffered in the game against Clemson (although I think the injury was more the climax of a series of knocks throughout the 2013 season) and he had the surgery early in the spring, as I recall. I believe it was severe enough that he missed all of spring practice and, up until this point, they had been very deliberate about how much action Miller was seeing in fall camp. According to Jeremy Fowler, it seems that Ohio State actually opted for a more urgent appointment for the MRI as news began to swirl about Miller's injury, which I find interesting if that is indeed the case.
August 19th, 2014 at 9:49 AM ^
as I see them
1. Structural integrity of the joint.
2. Where was the dislocation; glenohumeral vs acromioclavicular.
3. Grade of the dislocation
4. Re injured in non contact throwing drill is a bad sign.
August 19th, 2014 at 10:13 AM ^
"glenohumeral vs acromioclavicular".... And in a flash you remind me why I ran screaming from the idea of med school.
August 19th, 2014 at 9:12 AM ^
I just want to say that Braxton Miller is one tough, tough son of a bitch. This will impact our season and is worthy of discussion but I really do hope nothing but the best for him. He is a good dude and a great player.
August 19th, 2014 at 9:27 AM ^
All of this "UM and MSU will now decide the title" stuff seems really premature. Let's not count out OSU in the B1G entirely. I wish all our team's question marks had answers like JT Barrett...
August 19th, 2014 at 9:30 AM ^
We do kind of have the same answers.
August 19th, 2014 at 9:31 AM ^
August 19th, 2014 at 9:31 AM ^
PSU will have a say too.
Still got to line up and play the games.
August 19th, 2014 at 9:58 AM ^
August 19th, 2014 at 9:31 AM ^
August 19th, 2014 at 9:33 AM ^
I guess I'm thinking problems with OL+RB+TE+FS+DT vs. one spot on a playoff favorite to be filled with a universally regarded player everyone in the country wanted.
August 19th, 2014 at 9:38 AM ^
August 19th, 2014 at 9:56 AM ^
I can agree on OSU, but you don't think we have question marks at those spots?
August 19th, 2014 at 10:09 AM ^
DT? All signs pointing to good or better from all reports. FS/whoever plays opposite Wilson just hasn't seen the field yet because Gordon was there, and quite frankly I think whoever the replacement ends up being will be more athletic/versatile. TE is a question mark til Butt gets back and you can attribute some of those RB issues to the OL. I’m going to say the only thing I’m worried about is OL as a position group otherwise we might as well worry about every position where we lost a starter.
August 19th, 2014 at 10:03 AM ^
Michael Citro from yesterday's main page post with Ace, they have a guy who is a suitable replacement for Hyde, not quite as a bruiser, but as fast and effective. Link: http://mgoblog.com/content/vicious-electronic-questioning-11ws-michael-citro-0#comment-2616254
August 19th, 2014 at 9:58 AM ^
August 19th, 2014 at 10:01 AM ^
"Everyone wanted" JT Barrett? Not so fast, my friend. Ohio was by far his most impressive offer, the next best were Nebraska and...Texas Tech?
August 19th, 2014 at 10:26 AM ^
And LSU. Plus he was Top 100 at 247 and Top 150 at Rivals.
August 19th, 2014 at 11:54 AM ^
To me offers speak much more to the quality of a player than where the recruiting services put them.
One thing Nebraska, OSU, Texas Tech, and LSU all have in common is is that they all seem to produce pretty good college QBs that never make it in the NFL. That offer sheet indicates to me that he's not really a top X player.
August 19th, 2014 at 10:14 AM ^
Lol yeah man. How anyone can now overlook Ohio when we've lost 9 of 10, have them on the road, and they have their best D line in a decade, is beyond me.
August 19th, 2014 at 10:35 AM ^
Anybody who claims this is just being ridiculous. Michigan had a 3-5 record in the Big Ten last year. A total of 7(!!!) Big Ten teams had a better conference than we did last year. I'm not saying we can't turn it around, but that's a long way from being at the top. If the East had existed last year, 3 teams would have finished above us in our own division, Indiana would have been "tied" with us and then who knows about Maryland/Rutgers. My point here is that we have to be decent before we can talk about winning anything.
August 19th, 2014 at 9:31 AM ^
it appears there is growing speculation about whether Braxton and the coaching staff was being more optimistic than realistic about his recovery and return to practice and game form with less than two weeks before the first game. Some are suggesting that maybe he just hasn't healed and that rushing him back might have prompted the non-contact dislocation.
And while there is great fear that he might be done this season, many are already speculating that likelihood and possibly taking a redshirt so he plays next year, believing that another shoulder surgery would be absolutely necessary to ensure Miller can even count on a future in football next season and beyond.
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August 19th, 2014 at 9:40 AM ^
That seemed to be the subtext of the Eleven Warriors article (that Meyer tried to bring Miller back too quickly and perhaps the re-injury could have been avoided had they followed a slower time-table).
August 19th, 2014 at 9:48 AM ^
happen but my first thought was that he has been said to have a bad shoulder all year and I'm sure the medical staff was supervising his progress. If there was no hit, how did this happen? I would think they would be checking for damage constantly.