December 17th, 2020 at 10:13 PM ^
Full disclosure: I'm not the person who discovered this. Someone in a deep, dark corner of the internet posted this.
December 17th, 2020 at 10:16 PM ^
Well if true, maybe someone can shed some light on him because this seems underwhelming if we replace him with brown.
Unless he is a crazy good recruiter and would shut off penn states pipeline to michigan recruiting
December 17th, 2020 at 10:26 PM ^
Replace Don Brown with him*
December 17th, 2020 at 10:41 PM ^
"Is Don Brown's wife attractive?"
- James Franklin
December 17th, 2020 at 10:51 PM ^
Janklin will certainly fear her 'stache!
December 17th, 2020 at 10:30 PM ^
Underwhelming? Dude is like the opposite of Brown and has 10 years of Co-DC experience w/ 3 years of complete control at Central before that.
49 years old. Detroit-area native. Surely will help recruit the state, and keep it away from MSU. Wheatley leaving hurt instate recruiting.
Again, don't know what his role will be for sure but independent DC could very well be a natural move for him given the experience level. I will say; however, my PSU friends do bitch about their S play occasionally.
Edit: Here's his 24/7 recruiting profile
https://247sports.com/coach/Tim-Banks-80/
Banks is approximately 90 spots ahead of Brown and is the reason we lose random Michigan kids to PSU, see Enzo Jennings, King bros, Jaylen Reed, Donovan Johnson, Jamari Buddin, Lance Dixon etc. (So yes hiring him will shut off PSU's Michigan pipeline)
December 17th, 2020 at 10:37 PM ^
I was hoping we would offer Steve Clinkscale from Kentucky a Co-DC/S position while obtaining another strong Co-DC with experience to help Clinkscale transition. He would be outstanding recruiter as well and Kentucky seemingly has a great defense as well
December 18th, 2020 at 1:34 AM ^
Would he be able to recruit Ohio or is that someone else at Kentucky?
December 18th, 2020 at 8:52 AM ^
recruiting is half of it. Can he coach up a scheme?
December 18th, 2020 at 9:55 AM ^
I think Jamari Budden was more of a decision by the staff to stick with the linebackers they were already pursuing/had in the class. Michigan got a pretty good group this year with or without Budden. Besides that, I agree with you.
December 18th, 2020 at 12:26 PM ^
I don't know if he his good or bad but he can do one thing our current staff seems incapble of doing
recruiting defensive tackles
December 18th, 2020 at 2:53 PM ^
Curious how he is the opposite of Brown?
I agree Brown's time at UM has run its course, but I'm not sure I'm immediately looking for somebody who is the opposite of Brown. I enjoyed Brown's passion and demeanor. He also had some really incredible defenses until last year. Obviously, seemed like people were able to exploit his schemes and the talent dried up, but I'm not itching for somebody who's the opposite.
December 17th, 2020 at 10:40 PM ^
Bringing him in not only helps solidify Detroit, but it will help us with the Oak Park and especially Belleville kids. It shows those schools that Harbaugh is serious about keeping talent home.
In terms of his defensive philosophy though, I don't know how he's an upgrade. Would he actually be like a co-DC with Brown? I hope not, but wouldn't be surprised.
December 18th, 2020 at 5:42 AM ^
I'd be surprised. Co-DC with Brown sounds like an awful idea. What would be the point of that? If his philosophy isn't playing in a 3-3-5 against power running teams on first down with poor DTs, I'm for it.
December 18th, 2020 at 8:34 AM ^
Unless he is a crazy good recruiter and would shut off penn states pipeline to michigan recruiting
Have you seen PSU's recruiting this cycle? And, since when does JH prioritize good recruiters? We started off with recruiting aces in Mattison, Wheatley, Partridge, & Durkin and replaced them with Nua, JayB switching roles, Shoop, & Brown...all recruiting down grades.
December 18th, 2020 at 8:46 AM ^
I'll disagree on the recruiting downgrade of Wheatley to JayB. Otherwise I'm with you
December 18th, 2020 at 11:08 AM ^
Prior to yesterday I'd say I prefer Wheatley as JayH's only big win was Charbonnet, but now backing it with Edwards that moved him up. But, that wasn't a true apples to apples comparison as both were already on the staff. We lost Wheatley and gained (McDaniels?) while Jay just shifted positions, although we did bring in Moore. But, overall the former group was stronger than the current group. Now if we could keep all three, could have retained Mattison and Partridge and let them share the DC role, then we'd be talking. Why again didn't we try that? :/
December 18th, 2020 at 2:01 PM ^
And what about Corum? Dude has the potential to be the most dynamic back to come through UM in the last 15 years. I get that everybody views Jaybaugh as a nepotism hire, but name a more solid position group at UM over the last 4-5 years?
December 18th, 2020 at 11:48 AM ^
PSU has been a pretty solid defensive team under his guidance. They held IU to about 200 yards of offense, for example. Their 0-5 start this year was much more on the offense.
December 17th, 2020 at 10:42 PM ^
Deep, dark corner of the internet is right. It never ceases to amaze me the amount of time people spend on social media in order to dig up this kind of intel. I mean, what Michigan fan follows the activity of Tim Banks, co-DC of Penn State?
December 18th, 2020 at 5:46 AM ^
edit.
December 17th, 2020 at 10:53 PM ^
Must be WD!
December 18th, 2020 at 12:21 AM ^
I miss him.
December 18th, 2020 at 1:12 AM ^
Me too. The kid was generally alright, but unfortunately blew a gasket in a convo and I do appreciate the mods trying to create some modicum of courtesy here.
December 18th, 2020 at 2:48 AM ^
Wait - what happened to WD?
Sorry I live in the stone ages apparently.
December 18th, 2020 at 9:26 AM ^
As stated above, things got heated in a discussion and Ace decided it was enough. He was banned.
December 18th, 2020 at 9:44 AM ^
It wasn’t heated. At least the straw that broke Ace’s back wasn’t. It got heated AFTER Ace banned him for referring to people as “LeBronsexuals.”
December 18th, 2020 at 9:55 AM ^
It was a bullshit move on Ace's part. WD's alleged bash on alternative lifestyles wasn't a bash. I'm still disappointed with that move and miss WD's participation here.
It wasn't actually a ban though, he can come back if he wants, allegedly.
At minimum his apparel posts saved me the time looking up Michigan gear that I wouldn't buy do to my divergent fashion sense.
December 18th, 2020 at 10:40 AM ^
Didn't know any of this. Cancel Culture strikes MgoBlog. I shouldn't be surprised.
December 18th, 2020 at 11:22 AM ^
I have no idea what LeBronsexuals means. Much less whether it is a slam on alternative sexuality or not.
December 18th, 2020 at 12:34 PM ^
I missed this exchange, so maybe I'm way off, but I'm guessing he was just making fun of LeBron's fans?
December 18th, 2020 at 2:57 PM ^
Exactly.
December 18th, 2020 at 1:13 PM ^
I think him being a provocateur in the many political posts throughout the Spring/Summer was what really got him in bad graces with the MGoBlog staff. The “Lebronsexuals” was just the icing on the cake.
December 18th, 2020 at 2:23 AM ^
Somewhere umbig11 is reposting this as insider info
December 17th, 2020 at 10:16 PM ^
Pretty sure he has been the primary recruiter for most of the Detroit area guys PSU has pulled the last couple of years. Could help sure up the recurring annoyance with Detroit kids going out to Happy Valley.
December 17th, 2020 at 10:44 PM ^
Yeah, looks like seven out his top ten recruits have been from Detroit (or Belleville).
This year he nabbed: Kalen King and Kobe King from Cass Tech, Jaylen Reed from MLK, and Jamari Buddin from Belleville. All are low four-stars and high three-stars. (His other recruit is from IN). Pretty crazy that PSU grabbed four Detroit (/Ann Arbor) kids in one cycle... and just on defense.
[Now see that The Cube posted most of this in his edit above. Sorry if redundant.]
December 18th, 2020 at 12:19 AM ^
That list of recruits seems slightly underwhelming. Not something I'd want to depend on to turn us around.
December 18th, 2020 at 7:54 AM ^
I'm glad someone else sees it that way too. I'm sure there are some real players from the Detroit area that we have lost due to his efforts, but many of the names listed here are not guys that will move the needle for us, in my opinion.
I know that recruiting your "back yard" is important, but if we ever want to return to glory, we'll need a national recruiting guru. As it was mentioned in a post yesterday, osu is not on their current run largely because of their ohio recruiting efforts.
December 18th, 2020 at 9:39 AM ^
Having a hard time remembering some of the specifics, but Michigan was in on almost all of the Detroit kids Banks pulled. Jennings, Dixon, and one of the King brothers specifically. Dixon was the same year as Hill and Lewis Cine, so he was the 3rd option behind two top 50 guys. It was talked about that the staff was trying to get King back in this year.
Regardless, a guy who has a good relationship with the biggest Detroit area schools is useful in recruiting. Yes, Michigan can't win with just Michigan kids, but it would be a lot easier not to have to go and fight for some 4 stars in FL and CA if they can get 4 stars in their backyard. Belleville will continue to put out good prospects, as will Oak Part, King, and Cass. A better shot at guys like Barnett, Dobbs (not them specifically) as well as less effort needed to sway Benny away from places like MSU could make the team better IMO. It's part of the larger picture.
Also, some of those guys were "plan B" type players as Michigan went after big time national prospects, but I'd rather the plan B guys be Detroit area 3.5 stars than some of the other plan B types that have been pulled in recently. I know he decommitted, but Phinney was a plan B/help recruit your friend option this year. Detroit has better prospects to "fall back on" if needed.
December 17th, 2020 at 10:16 PM ^
Well. Is this guy any good?
December 17th, 2020 at 11:15 PM ^
PSU is 3-5 and just signed its worst recruiting class in years.
December 18th, 2020 at 3:35 AM ^
He was there when they signed their best classes. You left that out.
December 18th, 2020 at 11:45 AM ^
Harbaugh was also here in 2016 and also Hoke in 2011. Current results matter more.
December 17th, 2020 at 10:16 PM ^
OK, here we go!
December 17th, 2020 at 10:18 PM ^
This should be fun.
December 17th, 2020 at 10:23 PM ^
A million upvotes.
December 17th, 2020 at 10:28 PM ^
Loved this show
December 17th, 2020 at 10:41 PM ^
Fun fact - I met Al Bundy when I lived on Coronado about 20 years ago. The dude was shit-faced after drinking all afternoon with Navy SEALs. I told him I learned about sex from watching Married With Children. He loved it and was a great guy to chat with.
December 18th, 2020 at 12:15 AM ^
He is also from Ohio and played football in Ohio. Next Michigan coach?