Higdon spotted in FL, likely sitting out bowl

Submitted by Wolverine Devotee on December 18th, 2018 at 12:52 PM

A follower of mine on twitter sent me a photo of himself with Karan Higdon at the airport in Fort Lauderdale. 

Higdon said he’s down in FL working out. One can only assume the rumors are correct. Higdon is from Florida.

The Team isn’t on vacation either. They’re practicing for the Peach Bowl in Ann Arbor so....?

GoBlue419

December 18th, 2018 at 1:00 PM ^

I'm fine with NFL prospects sitting out the Non-Playoff Bowl Games. I do wish they'd stay with the team though. I'm sure UM has the necessary resources to properly train...

funkifyfl

December 18th, 2018 at 1:00 PM ^

It was a real pleasure to watch Karan step up this year and put up gaudy numbers. I hope he has a great career and think he will make a solid pro. That he went over 1,000 yards on the year averaging over 100 yards per game is icing on the cake.

crg

December 18th, 2018 at 1:18 PM ^

He could get hit by a bus tomorrow or by some snow-bird retiree driving down in FL now.  This is not an either/or proposition.  He could still play, just with reduced snaps and sit out the late stages - just like the team does against Rutgers and others.  This is not a justified precaution: it is an excuse.

xtramelanin

December 18th, 2018 at 1:24 PM ^

i totally get that.  but he's a captain, and therein lies the significant difference.  captains lead.  captains play the hardest at all times.  captains show courage, intensity, and perseverance at all times.  captains would never assign a task to someone that they aren't willing to carry out.   and for this football season he was captain, not just for 12 games, but for the whole season.  i bet the vote for captain is much different if there'd been an additional question:  if we're not in the CFP, are you going to sit?

not mad at the guy.  loved rooting for him and wish him wild success in the NFL.  however, i would pull that figurative 'C' off his jersey.  he has abandoned the ship. 

Beilein 4 Life

December 18th, 2018 at 1:28 PM ^

I’m sure Michigan football fans would have loved Cole and Hurst and Hammer Panda sitting out the OSU game 2 years ago because we weren’t going to win the B10 or get to the playoffs.

if kids are super worried about getting injured in a game that counts as much as any non-conference game, maybe they shouldn’t play football. Or just play one or two games in the year and voluntarily sit the rest out because they have a good draft grade

pdgoblue25

December 18th, 2018 at 1:29 PM ^

I think this is a garbage take.  This game is meaningless, and he has a chance to make some money doing something that he loves.

All of you bastards commenting that he's not even a day 2 pick are making his case even more to sit out.  If he is on the fringe of being drafted, then an injury would hurt someone like him even more.

massblue

December 18th, 2018 at 1:02 PM ^

Have no problem with this.  If he blows his knee, then are we going to fund his bank account? He has a little girl and has to think of her future.  My preference would be that all the players who are going to NFL next year should either not play at all or just play a few snaps. Let the kids who are going to be here next play. Of course, championship games would be different.

StirredNotShaken

December 18th, 2018 at 1:21 PM ^

I agree with your point about guys going to the NFL not playing in bowls, but where does the line get drawn? Assume UM has a rough start one season and sits at 3-3 with six games left in the season. You could argue every game after that is meaningless if only the CFP matters. Would you prefer guys planning to go to the NFL sit out in this scenario? What about guys who have clearly established themselves as first round talent after their second year of play and decide to sit out their third year to avoid injury? I have mixed feelings in either scenario. The fan in me wants them to play every game they can possibly play at UM; however, if I put myself in their shoes or the family's shoes I'd probably say to sit.

bronxblue

December 18th, 2018 at 4:05 PM ^

It ultimately comes down to the player, and my general feeling is it's their choice to make.  Ultimately it doesn't hurt me one bit if they sit or play; I'm not the one being tackled by 250 lb dudes running at 20 mph.  If we suddenly start seeing guys sitting out an entire year then so be it, we'll cross that bridge when we get there.  But a guy who skips the Peach Bowl against Florida to make sure he can make a go of it at his career isn't going to fall out of good graces with me.

massblue

December 18th, 2018 at 5:45 PM ^

As said below, it is ultimately up to the person. You cannot force them to play. But it could be the policy that there will be no pressure by coaches or other players that kids going to NFL should play.  As we saw with Bosa, kids could stop playing in the middle of a good season. They have to consider if that will carry a negative tone for the draft. 

Section 1.8

December 18th, 2018 at 1:34 PM ^

Is it really a binary choice; between playing in the NFL, or not supporting a child?

I am not into domestic relations law; if supporting a child was an immediate imperative, why have his recent years been spent playing college football instead of working?  And why is an NFL contract his only option for supporting himself and his daughter?

 

grumbler

December 18th, 2018 at 2:21 PM ^

Why would you think it is even possible that is is "really a binary choice; between playing in the NFL, or not supporting a child?"  Do you really believe it could even possibly be true that every single supported child in the world is the progeny of an NFL player?

That's some real dumb thinking right there.  You might want to stop before you show your ass even worse.

Section 1.8

December 18th, 2018 at 2:45 PM ^

I was responding to the many posts implying/positing that Karan Higdon's only/obvious/correct choice is to forego captaining the Michigan football team in the Peach Bowl, and instead preparing for the NFL draft.

I never set it up as a binary choice; those others did.

And you are repeating my point for me.  Just because a man has a child out of wedlock certainly does not mean that the only way to support the child is via a professional sports contract.  I think it is absolutely weird that with all of the talk about Michigan being a superior 4-year university (for recruiting purposes, most often), there is some presumption about an imperative to maximize value for the NFL draft. 

 

bronxblue

December 18th, 2018 at 4:09 PM ^

Do you take people to task for staying in grad school or pursuing some additional schooling or training in order to reach a better job with a brighter future?  If this was a non-athlete, would you tell him to drop out of college and pick up a job driving for UPS or something?  Because that's a short-term solution that leads to a long-term problem in terms of financial security and job opportunities.

I get that people are mad at guys not playing.  But good lord is this place intolerable when the "back in my day" and "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" and "UNACCEPTABLE" crowds all find themselves in a thread. 

Mongo

December 18th, 2018 at 1:12 PM ^

Yes, getting that first contract is about it these days for the average draftee.  The second contract is big money if you are good enough and not injured.

Best of luck to Karan.  He logged some great yards for UM and we should be thankful for his production and leadership.  Time to buy that baby a new pair of shoes !

aiglick

December 18th, 2018 at 1:07 PM ^

Really I’m starting to come around to the idea that bowls outside the playoff are meaningless. Players have every right to think about their futures and put themselves first but as fans should we care about games that are meaningless to the players?

I was for expanding playoff to only 8 teams but now I think maybe they should be 16 and then cancel all other bowl games.

If players are going to choose not to play what meaning do those games have anyway.

Maize N' Ute

December 18th, 2018 at 1:20 PM ^

Why have Non-Power 5 conferences if you're going to cancel the bowls?  Seems like a pretty douche thing to do to all those other schools.  If you don't like the bowl games don't watch them.  There are plenty of teams and players that should be rewarded for their hard work.  The players get to travel places they've never been.  Experience once in a lifetime activities.  Be handed "free stuff" and get the royal treatment.  I don't think that should go away.  

Jmer

December 18th, 2018 at 1:09 PM ^

This is the Peach Bowl, not the playoffs. Let's get the young guys in and see if we can start putting together things for next season.

SMart WolveFan

December 18th, 2018 at 1:27 PM ^

I don't think that's how most coaches approach the extra practice time, you still "game plan" in the same weekly cycle as the reg season. The extra time is for healing injuries and introducing new players and new elements that you wish you had this year, so you're getting ready for next.

Jmer

December 18th, 2018 at 1:35 PM ^

Because it is the Peach Bowl, not the playoffs. What do these players who are leaving for the NFL have to gain by playing in this game? Now think about what they have to risk. This season ended in Cbus. We lost our shot at the B1G title and the playoff and also the consolation prize of the Rose Bowl. We managed to do all that in embarrassing fashion. Our season ended that day. Time to regroup and get ready for next year starting with these bowl practices.

If Christian Turner goes out and has a big game. Or we come out and throw the ball all over the field to our very talented WR. Or if our DTs look to have made strides, and our young CBs hang in the back pocket of the Florida receivers (assuming Long and Hill sit), then this place will be a lot more pleasant over the offseason because there will be hope for next year. 

Goggles Paisano

December 18th, 2018 at 1:09 PM ^

Had we beat osu they would all be playing in the playoffs.  I'm not mad at you Karan - you had two really good years toting the rock.  Now go get paid.  I don't even give much of a rip about this bowl game.  If we lose, there will be no BPONE for me.  The only positive about this game will be some good practice reps and game reps for some younger guys that they can use to propel themselves into next season.  

Maize N' Ute

December 18th, 2018 at 1:13 PM ^

This is the new norm college football fans have to get used to.  If your team isn't playing in the Playoffs, expect your highly touted juniors and seniors to sit out their bowl games.  I think everyone gets why their doing it.  It doesn't mean we have to like it. 

I think it's selfish and says you're more important than the team.  Everything sports wasn't meant to be about.

Best of luck to all those who aren't playing and enjoy your millions.  

stephenrjking

December 18th, 2018 at 1:31 PM ^

I'm mixed about this.

On the one hand, he's a captain. And it sounds like his camp's relationship with Michigan is stormy; the poster on here who knew him appears to be an extension of that. 

On the other hand, it's really hard to make it in the NFL as a running back. The careers are short and they replace you as soon as you lose a step. Conventional wisdom still suggests that the carries and hits a player takes are cumulative, and Michigan absolutely ran Higdon into the ground this year. If he were to get hurt in Atlanta, his hopes of playing in the NFL would absolutely be over. 

And if you're not going to play, there's no sense hanging around anymore when you're really in "get ready for the draft" mode. 

I guess I'm more worried about the personal relationship between Harbaugh and his players than I am about Higdon not playing in the Peach Bowl. You're going to have people with big personalities clash sometimes, but if Harbaugh has a hard time dealing with players who don't follow his script, and it leaks into the public (suppose Higdon isn't invited to Michigan's pro day, for example), that's not a good look.

Red Berenson had a hard time dealing with guys going to the NHL, too. He was a great coach, but I think he hurt himself with the way he took NHL departures personally, especially in the 2000s. 

 

bringthewood

December 18th, 2018 at 1:42 PM ^

I have the solution. The NCAA with gobs of money insures every draft eligible player for the amount the consensus says for their projected draft slot would earn. If they are injured but still drafted the NCAA covers the difference between pre (projected) and post (actual) game drafted position.

How many players are injured and it affects their draft position? We all know Jake Butt and a few others. Why not ask the NCAA to fund more insurance for the few that do get injured in bowls. Otherwise fans may stop watching and going to bowl games.

The NCAA is so backward thinking they cannot get out of their own way. Or allow the schools to take out such insurance policies - just take away much of the risk and I am sure more players will participate.