Per Delany - B1G considering new conference title format, best 2 teams square off

Submitted by Bo Schemheckler on December 5th, 2018 at 1:15 PM

The B1G is considering just sending the best 2 teams to the conference title game regardless of divisions. I think most would like this change and our favorite comedian/masturbator says it is getting more talk than ever before.

 

https://www.maizenbrew.com/football/2018/12/5/18127454/new-big-ten-championship-format-may-be-coming-michigan-ohio-state?fbclid=IwAR3jumO55jJzukl0Xbs_NWE_3RsVrLea7ILstGrJEOB8vrMW-jioGU_dNgI

Night_King

December 5th, 2018 at 1:40 PM ^

IF they expand the CFP to let's say 8 teams, it would be really weird seeing OSU and Michigan potentially playing in back to back weeks. Lot more potential for someone to get bounced out. If they only play once for example, and the loser is still 10-2 or 11-1, they'd make the CFP even without going to Indy.

All of these things need to be considered. 

Just rebalance the fucking divisions. 

ztrain2323

December 5th, 2018 at 1:40 PM ^

Imagining a scenario where we beat Ohio State in The Game, and then go lose to them in the Conference Championship... Sounds miserable and essentially makes The Game meaningless!

Cmknepfl

December 5th, 2018 at 1:44 PM ^

oh great so the year we finally beat OSU we will have to beat them a second time.   A new and unusual way for them to rip our hearts out, great. 

Hab

December 5th, 2018 at 1:55 PM ^

Here's your fix.  Tell me if you've heard it before...

Eliminate divisions.

Eliminate conference championship game.

Institute rotating schedule in which every team plays every other team over the course of three years.

Rather than archaic standards that attempt to account for every possible iteration at the end of the year to determine the champion, form a committee composed of member representatives that select which team is the conference's best team that year. 

Crown them champ and bless them with the CFP's forthcoming auto-bid.

MarcusRay98

December 5th, 2018 at 1:57 PM ^

11-0 Michigan vs 11-0 OSU The Game

12-0 Michigan vs 11-1 OSU Big Championship

CFP 

13-0 Michigan vs 12-1 OSU

 

Playing the same team 3 times in the same year no thanks

outsidethebox

December 5th, 2018 at 1:59 PM ^

Get rid of the divisions and the (silly) conference championship game. Play a 10 game league schedule and make sure the top 6-8 teams from the previous year play each other and have a "mythical" champion...who gets an automatic bid to the CFP. 

Pelini's Cat

December 5th, 2018 at 2:12 PM ^

I'm more in favor of just realigning the conferences every couple of years. I don't hate divisions if they're not comically mismatched like they are now. 

I do realize in my scenario you could have years with back-to-back OSU/UM games (or another two teams) but hey, no system is perfect, and if OSU and UM have played well enough all year to get another shot at it then what are you gonna do? My guess is it would happen a lot less than you think. 

DCGrad

December 5th, 2018 at 2:16 PM ^

The real problem with eliminating the conference championship game is that the committee already punished TCU and Baylor in 2015 for not playing in a game.  Of course the committee vaulted OSU over both those teams and OSU won its championship.  It may end up hurting the B1G rather than helping it.

ScooterTooter

December 5th, 2018 at 2:54 PM ^

Or get rid of Rutgers and Maryland and keep two good programs. 

Then, play 11 conference games and 1 non-conference game. 

If other conferences have a championship game weekend, just make sure the last week of conference games is that week. 

MgoWood

December 5th, 2018 at 2:22 PM ^

Having an open mind about the pros and cons is the first step in acceptance of the new age of college football dynamics. I definitely love having to play OSU last. If we were to play midway through the season instead, and possibly see them later, I'm open to have that play out as well.

XtremeUMich

December 5th, 2018 at 2:24 PM ^

Best teams playing - Yes

8 team CFP - Yes

Moving The Game off Thanksgiving weekend - Hell yes

Splitting up MSU & OSU to home and away - FUCK YES

Delaney capable of any of this - No

M-Dog

December 5th, 2018 at 2:29 PM ^

The timing of this sounds like Delany is butthurt about not getting Ohio State into the CFP.

But they still would not have gotten in if they played us a second time instead of NW.

Problem is, you have a current CFP structure that has only 4 slots, and 2 of those slots are always going to be taken by the SEC and ACC, given the committee's biases. 

That leaves only 2 slots to be fought over by the Big Ten, the Big 12, the Pac 12, a second SEC team "darling", Notre Dame, and an occasional G5 team.

That's a lot of folks to be left on the sidelines.  Who didn't see this train wreck coming?

Why did Delany even sign up for this in the first place?

Kilgore Trout

December 5th, 2018 at 2:30 PM ^

I think some creativity is in order here. Nate Silver published a pretty cool idea a few years ago that I think would be awesome. Unfortunately, the cave man type mentality in college football would probably prevent this from happening for at least some of the following reasons.

1. Would require teams to not know who they are going to play in some weeks until the week before. Coaches would probably hate not getting to scout.

2. It's complicated, and people that don't like to think find it easy to blow this type of thing off. 

Mongo

December 5th, 2018 at 3:13 PM ^

Cool idea ... but transporting a college football team is like moving an army.  It takes a huge amount of advanced planning and scheduling that couldn't support the idea.  Not to mention things like Homecoming and a fan base that needs certainty in order to buy season tickets.

But yes, the coaches wouldn't go for this at all given the need to prepare game-plans and practice schedules tailored to the opponent. 

Kilgore Trout

December 5th, 2018 at 4:31 PM ^

I don't know... they do it in the NFL in the playoffs, so while it would be tough, I don't think it's impossible. Each team would only have two weeks where they didn't know where they were going ahead of time. They would know they're going somewhere, just not where. 

charblue.

December 5th, 2018 at 2:30 PM ^

Well, so the point of this proposal or idea, is because the CFP committee gives precedence to teams that have already earned tickets to the big dance, let's consider putting our teams with the best record regardless of division in the best position to compete for a national championship. Hard to argue with that logic. 

Imagine if Alabama lost to Georgia on Saturday, that Hurts couldn't turn water into wine after being subbed for in the second half of the championship game a year ago against the Bulldogs, do you really think that Bama would have been kicked out of the playoff? No fucking way.

Delany is simply trying to assure that the Big Ten gets a chance every year to punch a ticket into this playoff. This bowl compromise playoff system favors the SEC and the very elite of the game in a way that makes arrogance seem like normal behavior.

Don't get pissed at Delany for wanting his conference to be represented every year instead of playing a non-competitive West Division team that has never and will never get into the playoff. Maybe Frost has a team that strikes a challenge or maybe Paul Chryst gets Wisconsin into the championship game with a puncher's chance of making a first quarter threat in a playoff game, but the chances are the best recruited teams are going to go the farthest in the current playoff system, without any change. And that is what Delany is seeking to counter.

Until expansion of the playoff system, why should the SEC and its minions control who gets in based on historical precedent and subjective choice. That is the issue being confronted here, nothing more.

Wolverine0007

December 5th, 2018 at 2:42 PM ^

Dear God, please make this happen.

 

I'm so sick of seeing the likes of mediocre teams such as Wisconsin, Northwestern and even Iowa win their division and make it to the Big 10 championship game only to get blown out by better teams such as OSU. 

This format change will make the Big 10 title game more competitive which is great for the conference and fans. 

....

It could also mean that we could get our asses kicked two times by OSU instead of once if things don't change. :-)

bluinohio

December 5th, 2018 at 2:46 PM ^

This is obviously just him being pissed because of the big ten not getting in the playoff. If osu would have played um in the championship game and won, they would be in instead of Oklahoma.

plamonge

December 5th, 2018 at 2:53 PM ^

There are many issues with the way things are now and what might happen with the change. A few:

  • The East and West divisions are so lopsided with team quality. The East division teams are much better but only one team can win the division. 
  • The Game as the last game of the season is a huge asset for both Michigan and Ohio State to bring visibility to both programs. (Yes we've been losing, but when it's more even that will go away as a problem.) The visibility is an important thing for recruiting and revenue. Don't give that up.
  • In our homer focus, we just assume that Ohio State and Michigan will always be the top two teams in the Big 10. That's mistaken thinking. Other combinations will happen quite regularly. 

Mongo

December 5th, 2018 at 3:02 PM ^

There doesn't need to be a conference title game to award a conference champion.  If the B1G wanted to be a leader, it would eliminate the divisions and have every team play each other by eliminating the crappy non-conference games (plus drop Rutgers from the league). 

The team with the best conference record is the champ.  If there is a record tie, then the tiebreaker is the head-to-head result. 

This would produce a more thoroughly vetted champion and produce a much higher strength of schedule for the CFP ranking process.  Especially if the SEC just kept scheduling cupcakes. 

Bo Nederlander

December 5th, 2018 at 4:04 PM ^

Just switch MSU with Purdue or Illinois, make that a protected rivalry, include a Wisconsin vs OSU and Penn State with Iowa/Nebraska so we dont get fucked playing a better team than most every season and call it a day. 

This shit isnt that hard. 

Stuck in Lansing

December 5th, 2018 at 4:08 PM ^

Or we could just pick divisions that aren't dumb. Even a North/South split is far more even than East/West

North: M, MSU, Minn, Wisc, Rutgers, Iowa, NW

South: OSU, PSU, Nebraska, Indiana, Purdue, Illinois,  Maryland

MGoStrength

December 5th, 2018 at 4:11 PM ^

That's fantastic news.  Now, just get rid of the divisions all together, play a rotating schedule to ensure fairness, and get rid of all protected rivalries and game date slots and we are good to go.  While we're at it, require the rest of the Power 5 to do the same, expand the playoff to 8 teams, guarantee all Power 5 conference winners an entry, and we're golden.

MGoStrength

December 5th, 2018 at 6:19 PM ^

Nope, do you?  If we're gonna lose every year, which we basically have for the past 20 years, I'm OK rotating off once in a while.  If they are 14 teams in the league and they all play 9 conference games, that means we play them about 2 out of every 3 years.  Having a protected rivalry game against the best team in the conference every year would put us at a unique disadvantage.  That would be like Georgia maintaining a game against Alabama every year.  Imagine if we played another team instead of them this season and had the opportunity to play them in the conference championship game at a neutral site.  It might have looked different.

The Maizer

December 6th, 2018 at 8:47 AM ^

Yes, I want to play them every year. If we're good enough to win the B1G, then playing them is fun. If we're already out of the B1G title hunt, then playing them gives us a chance to redeem the season with a rivalry win.

Would we be at a disadvantage with that protected rivalry? Yes. Is it worth it? Yes.

Smegmatic Blue

December 5th, 2018 at 4:14 PM ^

Now that everything else is so messed up, I would actually be in favor of playing Michigan-OSU at a different time of year(which would obviously have to happen if they made this change). The fact that The Game is now stuck being played the day after Thanksgiving when all students are out of town on each campus is doing serious harm to the rivalry. While Students hear about it still, it just isn't the same.

Perkis-Size Me

December 5th, 2018 at 4:15 PM ^

Its tempting, but I'd rather pass. Assuming UM and OSU are the two best teams in the conference, it almost completely devalues The Game, or at least the first one that's played. If both teams were undefeated coming in, that first game would be meaningless unless one team got completely blown out. 

I'd be a fan of re-aligning the divisions, because the West has been so grossly tilted in Wisconsin's favor for years. Maybe swap PSU for Purdue to give Wisconsin an extra challenge, and then Purdue/IU don't need a protected crossover, so it allows them more frequent exposure to teams from the other division.