Does Urb leaving hurt their recruiting?

I don't know exactly how much it will hurt their recruiting beyond closing out this cycle....but it certainly can't help with the biggest fish left in the pond for '19 who happens to be announcing in a few weeks. 

Since there will be no coaching search I am surprised that the did not wait until they had all of the LOIs in hand.

No....the pay will still be the same!

I have no idea how Day will work out. I do know that Meyer was working out fabulously well for OSU. So.... I'll take the chance that maybe the next guy, in this case Day, won't be at the same level. 

OSU watched the 30 for 30 about the Pony Express in the 80's.  SMU screwed up by hiring an outsider to replace Ron Meyer and that's when the downfall happened.  Learning from that, OSU hires Day, because he knows where the bodies are buried and can keep the flow going.

Hmmm,  Meyer and Meyer coincidence?

No, there are thousands of blue chip recruits who would swim through a sea of thumb tacks to play for a big name coach like Ryan Day.

Honestly, coaching transitions rarely help recruiting in the current cycle. Leaving the bulk of the coaching staff in place will likely mitigate any damage. Anything could happen. It is difficult to predict the decisions of 17 year-old boys.

I'm thinking more about the current situation than recruiting.  Will Haskins go pro (I assume he will) and then will Martell be able to bring back the JT Barrett type offense?  If Martell is a bust, things get very interesting at OSU.    

Urban is one of the greatest college coaches ever.  Yes that hurts to say, but it is true.  It will be very very difficult for osu to continue on with the level of success they have had in both recruiting and on the field without his leadership.  They will always be good, but I think they come back a tick or so.  

Depends how well the recruits like Ryan Day. They committed to play for Urban Meyer who is clear Hall of Fame coach. Day is a guy who never has been a Head Coach.

Hopefully Day doesn't retain Larry Johnson.  That would hurt their recruiting

From a Buck fan's perspective, sure, at least initially.  Meyer's the second best in the game, and Day's kind of an unknown commodity.  I would have really liked to have seen Meyer take an emeritus role like Alvarez at Wisky, but if Day can keep the 2019-2020 recruits mostly in place, he'll be fine. 

There is a big difference between being a successful coordinator and being a head coach.  Not everyone makes the transition well.  He'll still be a great offensive mind, but will he be able to multitask and delegate as head coaches must? Let's hope not-I wouldn't mind a decade or so of beating their ass on a regular basis.  

In the short term I think it hurts their recruiting a little bit, but not that much.  Long term who knows, lots of unknowns.

After urban's fun off season, suspension and the media fall out........ maybe it gives Day a chance to pitch to recruits and their families who were on the fence that he can coach and isn't a piece of shit like his predecessor.

No probably not because they win, and one of their current 5 star recruits just posted 100% committed.  I don’t expect any drop off whatsoever.

Really blows that Urbz will go out undefeated against us, but whatevs. Having them at home next year with a new coach will hopefully help us get that monkey off our back. And you gotta think this will help with Harrison. Would be a nice consolation prize after Brohm decided to wait a year for a better job than Louisville and hang onto Karlaftis.

Him leaving doesn't help them.

Of course it does. Unless they replace him with someone who has more credibility with 18 year olds than him. Good luck finding that since Saban is locked up for a while. 

I'd have to lean yes.  Urban had rings he could flash.  Day does not.  I think there is still some question about how responsible Day was for the offense considering Kevin Wilson was on the staff AND offense was Urban's jam.  The defense is a question mark too if Schiano ends up leaving.  They have Grinch - but how much will he change the approach on that side of the ball?  I thought him and Schiano butted heads quite a bit this season if I recall.

Meyer is an all time great coach.  Much as I hate to say it.  The chances of them getting better or holding level are not in their favor.  That doesn't mean it can't happen, but the likelihood is not in their favor.

I like that this fan base is so broken that the assumption is that a guy who has coached 3 total games in his career is on the same level as a guy who has won 3 national titles. 

Lincoln Riley is one guy who walked into a conference where the only other traditional power was also going through a transition phase and had two potential Heisman-winning QBs in his first two years. 

Ryan Day will probably be fine. They recruit well enough that I can't imagine there will be too much downturn. But, he's also not some unstoppable coaching machine. 

No.  Them not winning the conference and sending guys to the NFL will hurt their recruiting.

Not immediately, but in the long run yes.  Meyer had a good eye for talent.

It sucks that he leaves the game undefeated against us in the Big 10, oh well.

I think this ends up being the tipping point in the rivalry, its time for the pendulum to swing back in our direction.  We'll take the next 5 to 10 years please!

GO BLUE!

Probably not. The sun is constantly shining on those fuckers 

If you consider going from six 5 stars a year to five then yes it will hurt their recruiting.

Any coaching change in college football is a risk.

Anybody remember Larry Coker at Miami (YTM)? He took over one of the most talented teams in the last 20 years, and in fact won his first 24 games in a row.

Each year, though, Miami got a little worse. The 2001 team was dominant and undefeated; the 2002 team was nearly undefeated (and would have been if not for that pass interference flag in the BCS game), but the defense wasn't as good. Then they went 11-2, 9-3, 9-3 (with a bowl game stomping by LSU) and finally 7-6. Miami hasn't really recovered through several mediocre coache that followed him.

It turned out that Coker wasn't so good at evaluating or developing talent or maintaining discipline. He managed not to fuck up immensely talented teams in 2001 and 2002, but he couldn't maintain that level of talent. 

That's what I'm hoping for with Ohio State.

Will Day be as dirty and dishonest as Urban?

That’s the question at hand. I’m not sure if Day will go the Urban route or not. 

I think this year it might actually help as Meyer was the question overhanging the program.  Over the long term, I don’t think it helps, Meyer had OSU recruiting on another level and while OSU will always be able to pull the Ohio kids who grew up dreaming of putting on the scarlet and grey, I think they take a national hit and it may even open up Ohio a little.