Co Division Champs - To raise a banner or not?
Curious what your opinions are regarding raising a banner per Jack Harbaugh's recent comments.
I am generally not someone who would even consider this but I was doing some research and the concept of being co-champions was much more common than I thought or could ever remember.
26 of our 42 claimed Conference championships are technically co-championship claims. 8 of Bo Schembechler's 13 are co-championship claims.
16 of Ohio State's 37 Big Ten championships are technically co-championship claims.
What do you all think of this?
PS- Another interesting piece of data I came across was the number of ties that have happened in Football. It is way more common in history than people realize. I remember when the whole Donovan McNabb situation went down and that felt like the first Tie I could remember in Football and now it happens "much more often", or so I thought. Older generations like to take their shots at Millenials regarding the ties with the whole everyone gets a trophy comments but I'm finding in my quick research that way more people were making claims and getting trophies back in the day than they do now. Just an observation of mine, take it as what you will.
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:15 PM ^
The situation you just described seems like it could happen to a lot of people in the Kareem Hunt thread a couple days ago........ Bando and Laser Wolf? Those guys would get cheated on and invite the guy who did it over for tea afterward.
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:31 PM ^
Good thing you brought your shoehorn.
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:11 PM ^
No banners of any kind until we beat MSU and OSU in the same season!!!1one!!!!!!!!
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:13 PM ^
Who cares, either way
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:14 PM ^
Just like the Lions raising a banner for making the playoffs.
Just don't do it.
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:15 PM ^
It needs to be acknowledged in Schembechler Hall with a plaque or something but that's about it.
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:15 PM ^
The only thing cool about a co-divisional championship is that when some knucklehead is like “har har, scUM hasn’t even won the division,” you can reply that technically they have. Then pile on with whatever academic or athletic program accomplishments, of which there are legion, that suit your needs.
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:17 PM ^
Absolutely not.
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:19 PM ^
B1G championship or bust...
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:20 PM ^
I wouldn’t. Honestly it feels more like a participation trophy because we didn’t get to play for a conference title.
You either win the Big Ten, or you don’t.
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:22 PM ^
No. It would be beyond pathetic.
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:23 PM ^
Just stop with this stupid talk. We didn’t win anything. Not being disparaging, but can’t stand this talk.
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:23 PM ^
Absolutely, it’s an actual thing that can be celebrated. Every other team does.
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:24 PM ^
If they raise a banner as co-big ten champs I will be thoroughly embarrassed as a fan
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:57 PM ^
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:45 AM ^
Sorry, I meant to put Co-east division champs. But still, embarrassing if this is even considered
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:41 PM ^
Life is short. Celebrate everything. Then go accomplish even MORE and celebrate that too.
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:52 PM ^
In other words,
YOU GET TROPHY
YOU GET TROPHY!
YOU GET A TROPHY!!
YOU GET A TROPHY!!!
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:46 PM ^
No please no
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:50 PM ^
I'm sad you wasted all that time with this thread
Sadder that I read it
Sadder still that I will be one of hundreds of replies
How long til football season?
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:52 PM ^
GTFO with that weak shit.
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:54 PM ^
Nope. Kinda embarrassing.
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:55 PM ^
No no and no
December 2nd, 2018 at 3:55 PM ^
December 2nd, 2018 at 4:05 PM ^
Definitely should hang a banner right after the celebratory parade down Main Street and placement of the co-division trophy in the trophy case.
December 2nd, 2018 at 4:07 PM ^
We aren’t co-conference champs, we are co-big ten division champs(which is apparently something we just made up). So the only team that could possibly claim co-championship per your historical definition would be NW. And since we didn’t play Purdue and lost a head to head to the eventual champs, I’d argue that we aren’t even co-division champs. Maybe big ten conference semi finalist would be better? /s
December 2nd, 2018 at 4:28 PM ^
We didn't make it up. The Big Ten literally sent us a trophy for this.
December 4th, 2018 at 6:29 PM ^
I believe the trophy we got says “East Division Champion”, not co-champion. I could be wrong tho. Who cares really, either way it’s wrong.
December 2nd, 2018 at 4:11 PM ^
Real lame they kicked our ass
December 2nd, 2018 at 4:11 PM ^
A participation trophy by another name.
December 2nd, 2018 at 4:15 PM ^
Can't be the "Co-Division" champ, that would imply that the B1G east sent two teams to the CCG, and that didn't happen. The real division champ kicked our team's ass up one side of the field and down the other. It was so embarrassingly bad I'm surprised somebody would try applying lipstick to that ugly ass hog.
December 2nd, 2018 at 4:17 PM ^
Uhh... NO!
Division banners in college are lame.
December 2nd, 2018 at 4:17 PM ^
Might as well, it's probably the only thing Harbaugh's ever going to win here. Put one up for the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl while we're at it.
December 2nd, 2018 at 4:17 PM ^
No. I will come take it down. F that loser crap
December 2nd, 2018 at 4:26 PM ^
I can see your point about how, in the context of the entire BIG10 history, co-division championships represent a minor achievement. Still, putting one up just feels like rewarding a good season, rather than a great one.
Especially considering that this was on track to be a great season until the OSU game, putting one up just feels like a way of patting ourselves on the back for getting crushed by OSU essentially. Jack's just wrong here and comes off as naive--we don't need to remind ourselves of what could have been with this team.
December 2nd, 2018 at 4:35 PM ^
No...
Feels like the Michigan equivalent of "Life Champion".
the search for a championship continues...
December 2nd, 2018 at 4:38 PM ^
I'm here for the tire fire, and the flaming.
December 2nd, 2018 at 4:45 PM ^
No
Conference co-champs are fine, because back in the day the B1G was basically always co-champs.
A "divisional co-championship" banner is just about the most lame and pathetic thing I can imagine; perfect for MSU or Northwester. No damn way.
December 2nd, 2018 at 4:46 PM ^
Feels like a participation trophy after Ohio game
December 2nd, 2018 at 4:56 PM ^
really reaching
December 2nd, 2018 at 5:08 PM ^
Big Ten Participants!
December 2nd, 2018 at 5:18 PM ^
I would go back and read the previous two or three threads on this topic if you really want our opinion.
December 2nd, 2018 at 5:25 PM ^
Co-champs for the entire conference is one thing, but co-division champs is lame.
December 2nd, 2018 at 6:22 PM ^
It will be a shame if they do
December 2nd, 2018 at 6:30 PM ^
No. There are different kinds of co champions. 3 or 4 way ties. Teams that didn’t play each other at all, etc.
this is not a deserved shared championship and it’s pathetic to trumpet it
December 2nd, 2018 at 6:41 PM ^
Fuck no
December 2nd, 2018 at 7:09 PM ^
Yep, hang it right up there above the south end zone 20 yard line during halftime of the first game next season.