Fanbase reactions: 2 months later
With this weekend's big win, the bandwagon is getting a little bit heavier. So I figured I'd take a look back at the post Notre Dame reactions to see how far we've come since that first week of the season, when the fanbase was in a "different" state of mind about the program.
Hopefully the current era of good feelings lasts well past OSU and into a potential Big Ten title.
November 4th, 2018 at 7:40 PM ^
It's also nice that Jim McElwain is in the booth during games looking over charts, and talking to the coaches on the field. Doubt he's just looking at WR stuff.
November 4th, 2018 at 7:34 PM ^
Don't look at me.
vvvvvvvvv
November 4th, 2018 at 7:36 PM ^
Maizen posted at least half of these.
November 4th, 2018 at 7:37 PM ^
Hire Gruden
November 4th, 2018 at 7:43 PM ^
For the record I said 11-1 and people laughed at me
See you in Indy
November 4th, 2018 at 7:47 PM ^
I wouldn't have laughed.
It will be nice to watch a comfortable win against Ohio St @ Ohio St.
November 4th, 2018 at 7:53 PM ^
I just could not fathom the gd negativity. Doubters had some extreme selective amnesia. Harbaugh proved it everywhere he went...it was only a matter of time before he did the same thing here. People too quickly forgot how terrible the program was when he inherited it (at least on offense). He came in with basically no QB and managed to salvage two seasons with an Iowa castoff and a 3 Star Borges recruit. Last year’s sucky sucky season was 8-5, and was still demonstrably better than either of the previous two coaches’ worst seasons.
this year feels like the first time we have a true Harbaugh team. 2016 was close, but not quite there. This program is now fully his, and the results on the field speak for themselves.
One last stop on the revenge tour. OSU, we comin.
November 4th, 2018 at 9:04 PM ^
Come on down! I suspect Michigan's team hotel will surprisingly not have running water.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0xMgXjpdVQ
November 4th, 2018 at 7:54 PM ^
I’m on record as being a Pep hater, through and through. However, as I was bitching, ranting, raving in my section, about a series.... he shut me up, twice.
After the fact, I understood why he called a play a series before. Set it up beautiful to fake a tendancy.
Best offense, most dynamic? No. But, it makes sense now that the offense executes an overal gameplan.
November 4th, 2018 at 8:00 PM ^
How do you know it was Pep Hamilton making all those play calls?
November 4th, 2018 at 7:56 PM ^
So I appreciate the compilation but have to say I think it paints a fairly one-sided view, i.e. cherry picked quotes. To start, prior to the season, many people here were predicting a 7-5 or at best 9-3 season based simply on our schedule, which included a likely ND loss. I could link to all those quotes but my guess is this comment isn't disputed. I also knew that I and others like me were fairly optimistic after that first game, given night game, away, new team, issues to iron, etc. I went back through my post history just to be sure.
September 2nd, 2018 at 8:56 AM ^
I would love to get several things ironed out over the course of the season and make it to the CFP to face that nd team again, on a neutral field with non acc refs.
It wasn't just me. I just made several comments, and many others like me commented in positive light. Several people also made positive threads over those several days like
November 4th, 2018 at 8:05 PM ^
I think Umbig11 said 8-4.
I'm pretty sure Umbig11 is Adam Biggers.
November 4th, 2018 at 7:59 PM ^
Facts:
- Michigan looked like shit to close out last season
- There was a ton of hype all offseason about this team, and then...
- Michigan looked like shit to start the season
- Not sure what happened at halftime in Chicago, but UM has been a different team since the second half of NW
- Michigan is 2-1 in “Buddha’s” big games for this season so far (ND, MSU, and PSU)
- Michigan still hasn’t played “Buddha’s” biggest game: OSU; and, a lot of my conclusion about this season hinges on our performance in Columbus
- Enjoy our success to date and realize the season (and revenge tour) is not complete
November 4th, 2018 at 8:07 PM ^
We are actually seeing a Michigan team that has gotten better every week of the season. We haven't really seen that in over a decade. One can point to 2011 and 2016 but those teams didn't dominate and grow to the point we are seeing now and didn't have as brutal a schedule, iirc.
November 4th, 2018 at 8:09 PM ^
Fan base Fickle. Always has been
Right John Navarre.
November 5th, 2018 at 2:33 PM ^
Contrary to your assertion, those of us old enough to remember the 60s and 70s can state that one quality of the Michigan fan base was that we were not fickle. In fact it was the unwillingness to give up on the team that was one of the qualities that set it apart from the fans of other schools.
I think that the rise of anonymous commentary and the ability to trash players not to their faces or the faces of other fans, has contributed to this change.
November 4th, 2018 at 8:13 PM ^
After ND, Harbaugh’s record at UofM was 28-12 for a winning percentage of 0.700. He now sits at 36-12, or 0.750. That’s 1 win out of 20. It shouldn’t matter that much, but it clearly does. 0.750 is 9-3 on average, Lloyd Carr-esque. I can live with that, but 0.800 would be nice, too.
November 4th, 2018 at 8:20 PM ^
Where are the 8-4, 7-5 prediction Nancy’s?
November 4th, 2018 at 9:25 PM ^
The most prominent 8-4 was Umbig11 (Adam Biggers).
November 4th, 2018 at 9:28 PM ^
Right here. I predicted 8-4, with 9-3 being more likely than 7-5.
I also explicitly stated that IF the OL and in particular the tackles made a big leap, and were actually average, then we could go to the playoffs. But I didn't think that would happen. Hail Warinner.
November 4th, 2018 at 8:22 PM ^
November 4th, 2018 at 10:30 PM ^
I assume it was the desire to both be polite and avoid having the audience get distracted from the message.
November 4th, 2018 at 8:28 PM ^
I predicted that we would be 8-1 at this point with a 24-17 loss to ND.
November 4th, 2018 at 8:38 PM ^
I'm pretty sure I was pretty positive and supportive of the coaching staff after the early games. I'm always of the opinion that things aren't as bad as they look after a L and they aren't as good as they seem after after a W. I thus try to counter-steer the prevailing winds of this forum, which go quite quickly from Hitler in Der Untergang to Matt Dillon's exclamation of victory in Entourage and back.
I think at one point I assigned a score of %s for likely outcomes of the season which featured 5-7 and 11-1 as unlikely outliers and the real outcome to be most likely somewhere between 6-6 and 10-2. Yes, it was that specific. I don't think an ESPN talk show is in my future.
November 4th, 2018 at 8:40 PM ^
I never wanted Harbaugh fired, but we did lay an egg in that ND game.
Harbaugh specifically wanted to play ND (not Arkansas, who we would have beaten and made more money from) and Michigan comes out looking average at best.
ND’s QB is not good and made Brown look like he didn’t prepare. Maybe that loss has motivated the team and coaches. It certainly was an anomaly, and I’m pretty sure we would have won at home and would win if the game were played tomorrow, but that game was not a great look for the coaching staff.
November 4th, 2018 at 8:41 PM ^
All the negative comments on the defense are terrible. On the offense- they were kind of right at the time. On the coach? Morons.
November 4th, 2018 at 9:28 PM ^
The defense was very good in the 2nd half of the ND game. I think they only gave up 69 yards and three 1st downs.
November 4th, 2018 at 8:51 PM ^
This thread is premature. It all comes down OSU.
November 4th, 2018 at 10:34 PM ^
It should always come down to OSU. But that doesn't mean we should hide under the tables until the big bad OSU is gone. Learn to live a little bit, even if an OSU game is still in the future - because there's always an OSU game in the future.
November 4th, 2018 at 8:52 PM ^
I thought the D would be elite - it just took a little time for them to show their excellence. There were a few times when they looked good but not elite ... and I was a dolt for not waiting a few games for the excellence to appear. Incredibly, the D isn’t fully healthy over this elite stretch with Gary, Solomon, Dwumfour and Vilain among the walking wounded. Get them healthy and the D has even another gear above elite. At this point, I think UM is the only squad with a real shot to beat Bama.
November 4th, 2018 at 9:01 PM ^
Several of those are from various iterations of a Sparty troll account, which has since disappeared.
November 4th, 2018 at 9:07 PM ^
I'll own it. I didn't see my writing up there, but it could have made the wall and I am one of the people everyone seems so eager to shame right now. My prediction before the season was 5-7 as I had no faith in the offense and figured the road derp was a permanent cloud that overhung the program.
After the team looked terrible against Notre Dame(the first time we had seen them in action after whatever the fuck that was in the Outback Bowl) I felt goddamn prescient, when the team went down to NW by 17 points I just KNEW I was right in thinking the team couldn't play on the road, couldn't take a punch, and that the defense had a very significant and very easily exploitable flaw that was going to make it so it couldn't be relied on in the big moments. I'll be honest, I still don't completely trust the team yet(the past ten years of Michigan football, AND I'm a UCLA fan, let's be honest that didn't help, have put me firmly in the BPONE), but I love what I'm seeing and I'll happily admit I was really fucking wrong. So shame away all, I've earned it, but don't tell me you don't feel the BPONE waiting in the background, ready to awaken at the slightest provocation. That's how we've been trained after all.
November 4th, 2018 at 9:15 PM ^
I said 9 wins at the beginning of the year. I didn't change that prediction after the Notre Dame loss but as the season has gone on I've felt like Michigan has been the rightful favorite heading into every game. We've gotten better and a lot of teams around the B1G have not been as good as advertised.
November 4th, 2018 at 9:23 PM ^
Stanford’s record the year before Jim Harbaugh was hired: 1-11;
Stanford’s record four years later: 12-1
49ers record in the eight seasons immediately preceding the hiring of Harbaugh (7 losing seasons and one .500 year): 46-82, with zero playoff appearances.
49ers record in the four seasons Harbaugh was the head coach: 44-19-1, with three consecutive NFC Championship Game appearances and one trip to the Super Bowl.
49ers record in the four season since Harbaugh was fired: 15-41, with zero playoff appearances.
Michigan’s record in the seven seasons immediately preceding Harbaugh’s hiring: 46-46.
Michigan’s record in the four seasons since Harbaugh was hired: 36-12.
I’ve often wondered what Harbaugh’s doubters are thinking. Whatever they’re thinking, it certainly isn’t rational.
November 4th, 2018 at 9:28 PM ^
Thank-you for doing this. Great reading. Schadenfreud targeted at the perma-downers. Especially liked the take that ND would be a 3-4 loss team.
November 4th, 2018 at 9:40 PM ^
IF (I know, I know) Michigan had lost to, say LSU or Georgia, and ND had played someone on par with UM and beat them, this board would be jumping out of their pants claiming ND was no good, plays a crap schedule, and had barely beat three pretty poopy teams on their schedule.
ND could very well have lost two games by now, but Irish luck and all. They are pretty close to being mediocre. I still think if they make the playoff, any one of the other three teams will take them to the woodshed, and I suspect if Michigan got a rematch with them, it'd be ugly.
ND is a product, this year, of catching Michigan at the right time and a shit schedule.
November 4th, 2018 at 9:30 PM ^
/Scans the list of dumb comments.
Please don't be me.
Please don't be me.
Please don't be me.
/Whew. Wasn't me.
(I still don't like our one-rushing-yard-on-first-down offensive play calling though.)
November 4th, 2018 at 10:11 PM ^
Not sure why this post wasn't upvoted a ton. To quote Homer Simpson...it's funny because it's so true.
I was like oh shit, I was drunk and I think I COULD'VE posted something akin to those comments but I don't remember it, but maybe I did. Oh fuck, now that I think about it, did I?
November 4th, 2018 at 9:34 PM ^
Still can’t believe how much th OL has progressed in two months. After the ND game, I said multiple times on this board that Runyan was not good enough to start in the Big Ten, and that Hudson needed to be given a shot.
Boy, has Runyan made me eat my words and then some.
Are they on the same level as Alabama? No. But they’re sure as hell no longer a liability. You could argue that they’re even a strength at this point. And the best part is they’re only getting better. Got three more weeks to keep improving before the big one. And I think they will continue to do so.
November 4th, 2018 at 9:35 PM ^
It's easy to be a worshipper and a hater. In between is the sensible take. I'd be willing to bet all the worshippers aren't really being honest if they told you they TRULY believed this team would be 8-1 at this point, going away. NO way.
The worst part about message boards is the lack of tolerance for opinions. And that some are like women--remembering everything they deem as wrong by you over time, and reminding you of it.
I really don't know what makes someone so pathetic they have to catalog what people post on a message board and remember what other posters say all the time.
There are heat of the moment, knee-jerk reactions that the so called haters make, a lot of the time. They usually come to their senses after a time. And if they don't? WHO THE FUCK CARES. It's a message board, no one should expect anything profound.
Just roll. Live and let live. Post and let post.
November 4th, 2018 at 9:44 PM ^
https://mgoblog.com/comment/243053834#comment-243053834
the retrospective thread is cool. Wasn’t there a quicker way to find old posts/threads under your user name?
November 4th, 2018 at 9:47 PM ^
I was predicting 10-2 at the beginning of the season. I predicted a loss to ND and WI but I thought we would improve through the season to beat OSU. I hope we can whip them like the way they did to us in Jim's first season. I knew we would probably be B1G champions but thought 2 losses would be too many to reach the playoffs. Now I'm thinking playoffs! Just keep winning.
November 4th, 2018 at 10:14 PM ^
I had a ton of confidence that was further bolstered by Woodson's guarantee that Michigan would beat OSU this season. Can't argue with Woodson now, can we?
November 4th, 2018 at 10:43 PM ^
I was pretty confident that Michigan would beat ND but thought they'd lose to Wiscy and another (likeliest Penn State) while beating MSU and OSU and winning the conference. 10-2 with the outside chance of 9-3 if they had one of their semi-annual brain fart games.
November 4th, 2018 at 10:05 PM ^
oh please unblur the names and don't make me look them up
November 4th, 2018 at 10:07 PM ^
The classic knee jerk reactions of a fanbase. It's amazing that the fan base and National media can forget that Harbaugh has the potential of having his third 10-win season in four years.
November 4th, 2018 at 10:35 PM ^
Thanks for posting this! Many of these vans are so fickle. I’ve been out here at Los Angeles defending the hell out of Harbaugh telling people “who the hell are we going to get that’s better than him? “
November 4th, 2018 at 10:37 PM ^
Epic season was my prediction.
November 4th, 2018 at 10:46 PM ^
The one prediction I made all season was that we'd finally cover the spread against sparty. The comments wanting to get rid of Harbaugh are just crazy, or drunken hot takes brought on by years of bitterness and losing close games to lil bro and An Ohio State. The comments wanting to get rid of Pep are spot on. Our offense with Fisch on the staff was brilliant and broke records, it's taken on a distinctly Borgesian flavor since we lured Pep away from the mighty Cleveland Browns, and has a way of keeping opponents in the game until late. Keeping opponents in the game until late has royally fucked the team on a consistent basis for years. It needs to stop.
November 4th, 2018 at 10:59 PM ^
You just can’t resist, huh?
Do you think needing to score only 14, 8 and 8 points (even counting garbage time) to beat Wisconsin, MSU and PSU respectively, has anything to do with this “play calling” bone you won’t seem to let go of?
FFS, it’s as if you don’t pay any attention to what goes on. Harbaugh calls the plays, and has final call on the design. If they’re designed a certain way it’s because HARBAUGH wants them that way. His game plan is one of constriction, of crushing defense, of wearing out the opposition with T.O.P. and selectively taking shots. Why is that so disagreeable?
The irony of your post would be impressive if it weren’t so sad that you can’t see it.