Nick Saban Goes Full "Crabby Baby Boomer who Needs a Nap" about Student Attendance
All kidding aside, if Alabama students don't show up for games after winning 5 of the last 10 national titles, what are regular programs experiencing? Is the "stadium experience" dying, as some are warning? Have 70" high def TVs and $15 hot dogs made-obsolete the stadium experience???
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2018/10/04/nick-saban-alabama-football-coach-rants-poor-student-attendance/1518732002/
October 4th, 2018 at 12:33 PM ^
I mean there showing up just leaving early because the games are blowouts. I don’t see an issue here. Nobody ever stays in a blowout even before hd tv and dvrs
October 4th, 2018 at 12:35 PM ^
You're right, there showing up, but leaving they're stadium once their is nothing left to cheer for. There not bad fans, their just entitled and spoiled.
October 4th, 2018 at 1:26 PM ^
How did nobody comment on both the glory and the horror of FauxMo's post?
October 4th, 2018 at 3:09 PM ^
Because I had an aneurysm while reading it.
October 4th, 2018 at 5:12 PM ^
My teacher brain is imploding on itself right about now.
October 4th, 2018 at 2:18 PM ^
I believe this specific rant by Saban is directed at students not showing up; not leaving early. The student section was more than half empty at kickoff.
October 4th, 2018 at 3:21 PM ^
Exactly; when student attendance issues come up, they are most often in relation to the poor attendance at kickoff. The Tweeted picture(s) that accompanied the Alabama/Saban article were just before kickoff.
When it was so terrible in Madison that Barry Alvarez and Bret Bielema were doing advertisements begging UW students to show up on time for their (many) 11 am games (thanks, TV!), it was a "kickoff" thing and not a "blowout" thing.
October 4th, 2018 at 12:33 PM ^
Heard Stan Van Gundy of all people chiming in on one of the ESPN talking head shows, he was like "you want them to show? Play Notre Dame not Louisiana-Lafayette"
October 4th, 2018 at 12:33 PM ^
At home I have beer, tons of food, a wife who brings me food and beer, a bathroom that is five paces from my couch, a 110" projector, and wifi access during the commercial breaks. I've honestly considered selling most of my tickets and only holding onto the big games. Going to the crappy games like WMU is starting to feel like a chore.
October 4th, 2018 at 12:50 PM ^
You have a wife that brings you beer and food to the couch? Forget the rest of your post, that is amazing and shocking information...
October 4th, 2018 at 12:55 PM ^
AND she makes a ton of money.
October 4th, 2018 at 1:07 PM ^
Gah! Some people's luck have them falling into a pile of shit, then coming up with a diamond...
/s (I think)
October 4th, 2018 at 1:30 PM ^
Smart. Sexy. Sane. You only get to have two.
If you think you have a woman that's all 3, run as fast as you can. Because it's the Devil himself.
October 4th, 2018 at 2:23 PM ^
My wife is incredibly sexy and super smart. That's all I have to say here...
And to quote one of the best instructional videos ever - on the "Hot-Crazy Matrix":
"If you meet a girl and think she's like a 9 hot, but only like a 3 crazy, be careful. That's a dude, you're talking to a tranny!"
October 4th, 2018 at 2:28 PM ^
That video is AWESOME!!!!
Not sure Tiffany thinks so, but she'd be wrong!
October 4th, 2018 at 2:38 PM ^
Red heads, hair dressers, anyone named Tiffany. Just imagine a red headed hair dresser named Tiffany. *chills*
October 4th, 2018 at 2:53 PM ^
The first time I saw that video 6 or 7 years ago, I was getting my haircut at a salon in Briarwood and my hairdresser's name was, in fact, Tiffany. I showed her the video. She was not amused...
October 4th, 2018 at 3:06 PM ^
The fact that she reacted that way is living proof of how accurate that movie is
October 4th, 2018 at 1:38 PM ^
What's the opposite of "Humblebrag"?
October 4th, 2018 at 1:56 PM ^
Cockysecret?
October 4th, 2018 at 12:33 PM ^
Alabama's home slate, truly Wisconsin-level scheduling right here:
Arkansas St.
Texas A&M
Louisiana
Missouri
Miss. State
Citadel
Auburn
October 4th, 2018 at 12:35 PM ^
And I thought that we had it bad
October 4th, 2018 at 12:48 PM ^
Exactly, shut the fuck up Saban!!
You can't have it both ways, schedule cupcakes to increase your odds of getting into the Championship and the result is students (and season ticket holders) are going to maximize their utility and choose to spend their time doing other things they deem more valuable. You want them to show up? Don't schedule the bottom rung FBS or FCS teams! EASY
October 4th, 2018 at 12:49 PM ^
Is that seriously their schedule? No wonder people aren't going.
Also, it's too fucking hot down there before November.
October 4th, 2018 at 12:54 PM ^
This kind of shit is a joke. Everyone should play a minimum of nine conference games.
October 4th, 2018 at 1:02 PM ^
That is a genuinely embarrassing home schedule.
October 4th, 2018 at 1:33 PM ^
Fucking CITADEL. Get the fuck out with that bull shit. No FBS team should ever play an FCS team, especially that late into the season. I know it's good for the FCS teams to get the exposure and money, but it still should not be allowed. Nine times out of ten, the FBS team whoops and embarrasses the FCS team. It's just boring to watch.
October 4th, 2018 at 1:38 PM ^
Especially Alabama. Rutgers playing an FCS team is at least a fair fight.
October 5th, 2018 at 11:32 AM ^
That's the damned SEC bye-week crap in November.
October 4th, 2018 at 12:34 PM ^
Stop scheduling schools like The Citadel in mid-November!
October 4th, 2018 at 1:06 PM ^
Perhaps there is a method to the madness - clearly, you should schedule games like Citadel in crunch time late in the season, when you are jockeying for figuring out which two teams you will be destroying in the CFP, in the case of Alabama.
Then again, yeah, the bar on the home experience is now high enough that even I really don't enjoy actually going to the cupcake games much anymore. When I get my season tickets, those are typically the ones I try to sell.
October 4th, 2018 at 12:38 PM ^
Strangely, he has no opinion on cheating, however, and buying all the best players in the country every....single.....year.
October 4th, 2018 at 12:41 PM ^
While $15 hot dogs are a joke and don't help at all, let's also note that we're dealing with a couple generations now that prefer to be inside on their electronics rather than outside.
October 4th, 2018 at 12:42 PM ^
Strange as it may seem, teams that become something of a dynasty tend to have this happen. Locally, we can look to the dominant Red Wings teams of the late 90's and early '00's. The Joe was the place to be in the mid to late 90's as the Wings Dynasty was building. Then after the huge amount of success over a number of seasons people simply stopped going to regular season games....then even early rounds of the playoffs were poorly attended. The expectations were that the team would win anyhow and only games of the highest of importance were worthy of attending.
Now there are a multitude of other factors at play here which many posts have addressed, as well, but I suspect their fans would show up in much bigger numbers if they thought for even a second that the game was going to be competitive.
October 5th, 2018 at 12:47 AM ^
I think this is without a doubt the biggest culprit.
And I’m crossing my fingers hoping that it indicates the fall of the empire.
October 4th, 2018 at 12:48 PM ^
They should try night starts for the body bag games. The Louisiana-Whatever State College game started at 11am Central - the hottest part of the day. I complain about our student section, but I'm not sitting through that.
October 4th, 2018 at 12:50 PM ^
Alabama plays two ranked opponents this year. The first of those games is in Week 10. There's your problem.
October 4th, 2018 at 12:57 PM ^
Attendance at all sports is going to continue to plummet.
Basketball, hockey, and baseball are due for massive drops. Too many damn games.
October 4th, 2018 at 1:09 PM ^
Nope. The cost attendance of has priced too many people out. Hell, when I was a teen, me and my friends would go to Yankee or Met games on the spur of the moment a dozen times a year--and we could afford that with our allowances and paper route money. We were working class kids. Now? I can't imagine that happens much. How much are basketball, football and baseball tickets compared to '70s or '80s prices? Owners and schools have basically priced themselves out of full capacities at their venues. Drop prices and the young'uns will fill stadiums again just to instagram it.
October 4th, 2018 at 1:13 PM ^
And relax alcohol restrictions...
October 4th, 2018 at 1:42 PM ^
Yep. The cost is too high for me now that I have a wife and kids. I used to go to games all the time at the last minute if I was able to score tickets. Now, even if I can grab a cheap pair I'm still spending over $100 just on parking and concessions.
Tickets to cupcake games should be like $20. And how about a hotdog and coke for $5?
That would get my family to more games. And I'm not exactly a "poor".
October 4th, 2018 at 1:11 PM ^
Yeah but - College football has 6-7 home games (or 10 if you're ND).
How is THAT "Too many damn games"??!!
October 4th, 2018 at 1:00 PM ^
I'd be curious to see how many of the non-students didn't show up either. As the one WSJ article showed, basically every team in America is way overreporting actual attendance by claiming those who bought the tickets instead of how many were scanned entering the stadium.
October 4th, 2018 at 1:48 PM ^
Did you read the linked article? There were paired photos of the North and South ends of Bryant-Denny Stadium. The North was virtually full, and the South (student) end was mostly empty.
And let me say; all of the observations about Alabama's home schedule are totally correct. As a season-ticket holder I want all good games. I know that means home-and-home scheduling. I would be very happy with six home games if they are all quality and/or Conference games.
October 4th, 2018 at 1:02 PM ^
$$$$
How much are Alabama season tickets now? How much were they when Coach Bear Houndstooth was there? Add that to bloated tuitions that turn students into indentured servants for loan companies for decades afterward and, yeah, I get it.
October 4th, 2018 at 1:05 PM ^
Blame the ever increasing costs of attendance, and blame the chase for dollars making the live experience miserable with infinite media timeouts. If i'm at a bar or my couch I can drink and do something else during the commercial-kickoff-commercial sequences. It's not hard to understand: when you're charging more for a lower quality product, less people will buy. Basic economics.
October 4th, 2018 at 1:12 PM ^
Yeah, that's a great point too--the degree to which packing telecasts to bursting with commercials ruins the live experience of a game.
October 4th, 2018 at 3:38 PM ^
wonder if having the announcers do live read commercials like radio instead of going to an actual commercial break would speed things up. they could squeeze in 15 second live read commercials without breaking from the action. super impose ads on the field during huddles and when they break to the guys in the booth. make the game move at the right speed and figure out the ads to fit into the flow of the game.
October 4th, 2018 at 1:06 PM ^
Well look at that...demand for CFBgames is not inelastic. AD's and corporate sponsors and network partners cant foist increase over increase upon increase on to fans, and continue raking in their dollars while the sheep walk through the turnstiles. Almost as if, not only are consumers intelligent enough to not blindly let their loyalties be preyed upon, but are capable of a cost benefit analysis of their own and have determined that allowing themselves to be screwed (or not) has no real impact on their level of fandom. Shocked, I say
October 4th, 2018 at 1:16 PM ^
Again, any replies not pertaining to student attendance do not pertain to the current topic.
Which is to say, ALL your points were salient for another topic around sports attendance in general, Balls.