OT: New Urban Meyer/Aaron Hernandez Revelations

The medication made him forget about the multiple failed tests.  Have some sympathy

Even if he couldn't catch him, but knew he would fail, that piece of shit coach still played him. NICE!!!

Maybe the Hernandez thing got to Meyer - maybe this is when he decided to go full scumbag and said, well if you can't beat em, join em.  

not that he was a saint before, but maybe this is when he let go of any final moral center he was holding onto.

The 31 arrests over 5 years would lead me to believe it wasn't that hard to catch Florida players breaking rules.

Urban was responsible for shaping hernandez into the man he became and that is why he's complicit in hernandez's crimes.

It's also why he's complicit in Courtney smith's abuse. 

He had the power and influence to affect these people's lives for the better, but he didn't. And not because he was too busy, but because winning games and keeping secrets was paramount. 

Yeah, sociopathic tendencies for sure. 

NFL teams are pretty risk averse overall, they don't have a lot of tolerance for troublemakers usually.    Most teams, you get a DUI or possession charge, you're cut before you have a court appearance. 

I know there are and have been exceptions, but usually the NFL wants nothing to do with players that will hurt their teams' image.  I'm not surprised to hear that a college coach was willing to keep Hernandez around - thinking they could keep the BS under wraps - but told NFL teams to stay away.  

I'd be scared that Hernandez would murder me if told him he couldn't play.

Hell, Percy Harvin beat the tar out of his receivers coach per Sam Webb.

Tight ship you're running there, Urbz. 

Remember, he does not LIE, but is prone to misstatements.

Dedicated to Jim Tressel?

No one really cares what you think. 

If you are sick of the posts, helpful hint - DON'T COMMENT & MOVE ON!  Maybe get back to work even. 

If you don't like them, then don't read them. It's very simple to ignore something you don't like. Complaining about not liking something you continue reading about makes no sense at all to me.

The reason why it's important that people comment on this stuff is because Meyer and Ohio State have invited the scrutiny. And the public heat needs to be turned up. And I suspect that the school will ultimately respond in its own best interests and thus inappropriately in the resolution of its other major current scandal.

And so, there is ample reason to mention this continually because it begets the kind of negative word of mouth and social media traffic that does impact public and industry perception, and sooner or later, it will affect recruiting at The Ohio State.

I mean here is a coach who had issues with an assistant coach at Florida and then hired him at OSU without telling anyone at his new school about those prior problems. And then he keeps enabling him, even while he knew there were negative things happening with the guy at work and home. Isn't this the way he knowingly dealt with Hernandez?

That reported experience ought to give one who cares a clear understanding of the Smith fiasco. Here's something else: Why is it that Meyer wants people to know he doesn't tolerate domestic abuse when he clearly tolerated an atmosphere for it and didn't even have the curiosity to ask his wife pointed questions about her internal knowledge of the situation at the Smith home. To this day, he hides behind the shield of the lack of knowledge. Why?

Because acknowledging it under any timeline in this case would sink his defense.

Meyer claimed both he and his wife counseled the Smiths as a couple, but that also turned out to be a lie, according to Courtney Smith, who claimed she never met with Urban.

And after his first false statements at Media Days, he said he followed protocol in reporting Smith to school authorities in his written statement that followed, only to have Gene Smith later contradict him on that contention as well. So his confession was actually a lie that was never checked by anyone.

In his ESPN interview, Meyer told Rinaldi he's not experiencing any memory problems or issues, which again, were used as an excuse for some of his reactions to questions as part of the school's investigation. And as of yet, the school hasn't explained why Meyer and Gene Smith were allowed to keep their phones from being confiscated as part of the official investigation into Smith's employment and their handling of it.

Meyer also denied changing his phone settings or trying to destroy evidence of text messages or email correspondence about the Smith case, because he said he didn't know how to change the settings on his phone. Fine, then why didn't he simply turn the phone over to investigators so they could examine the data on it. He never responded to that question or issue.

Meyer has skated away from all the unanswered questions and sought to wrap himself in the blanket of regret and recommitment to his alleged core values, which are merely empty platitudes.

So, pointing this stuff out is important so no one misses the message that this guy is simply a narcissist who cares only about himself and how things that happen around him are viewed through the lonely prism of his own experience.

He can't stand to be seen in a negative light because winning is only as sweet as the respect that goes with it. And he keeps demonstrating that he isn't worthy of any regardless of his success on the field.

Fear is a powerful thing

Obvious conclusion from that quote is that Meyer doesn't care at all about morals....no surprise there.

Maybe he will choke people in the shower if you pay him. 

Not necessarily.  I mean, I doubt he was a choir boy in Utah, but it's Utah.  A place where drinking is morally illegal and having a get-together beyond 9PM is an all-nighter.  Yes, I kid, but there is no comparing Utah to Florida.  Not with the established citizenry moral threshold, not with money, not with pressure to win.  He was excellent at Utah because he's an excellent coach of college football and was able to get great results for Utah's schedule out of the mediocre football 'croots exposed to Utah.

Flash forward to the pressure cooker of UF football after Steve Superior - it is simply no comparison to Utah.  He did things at UF that he didn't have to do at Utah to achieve the same success, on a grander scale.  He did what he (thought) he had to do to win.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Urbane Meyer is nothing more than a morally deficient football coach that is good at football and will do whatever is necessary to stay on top.

Utah and Florida are apples to oranges when it comes to pressure to win. I don't doubt that Meyer was the same competitor at Utah that he was at Florida, but Utah was, and still is, a program that is content with finishing the year 8-4. They were also in I believe the Mountain West at the time, so facing that slate of teams like Utah State, Colorado State, and Fresno State was not the same as the pressure of facing Georgia, Alabama, LSU, and Auburn in any given year.

He may have done seedy shit at Utah (never any real reports of it, but maybe), but he never really had to because Utah isn't a pressure-cooker job that chews you up and spits you out if you lose a couple games. At Utah, a good season is 8-4 and beating BYU. At Florida and OSU, the measure of a good season is a national championship.