You Only Live Twice

September 17th, 2018 at 11:21 AM ^

In the State of Ohio, football matters above all else.

https://fox8.com/2017/09/16/richmond-plays-for-youngstown-state-after-c…;

Urban just isn't as good of a con man as Jim Tressel.  The Sweater Vest has never been reprimanded for any of the dirt that surrounds any program he is part of.  Not even when YSU got the dreaded "lack of institutional control."  People in Ohio are content to throw players under the bus rather than blame a coach who wins games; they are also content to overlook any and all crimes.  Note the weird posters who spend their time trolling this board, purposely not typing the "M" in Michigan as though that's somehow clever.

Now there have been a few halfhearted "well what did you expect Urban to do" comments floated; such a lame defense they shouldn't bother.  

charblue.

September 17th, 2018 at 11:24 AM ^

Welp, I guess everything is all right now. The emperor has apologized for wearing no clothes and finally bearing responsibility for the events that led to his incredibly short time off from coaching his team. For the record, the tonal quality and completeness of the umpteenth apology attributed to him, doesn't really sound like Urban actually wrote it.

Don't care whether he has recommitted himself to his core values. They've already been categorically violated by his actions.

You judge someone not by their written or stated future intentions but by their actions. Yeah, I don't believe you really care about women or honesty, whether written on a wall or not, except when it suits your purpose.

The fact that his wife didn't share vital information with him about what she knew was happening in real time about his coach's behavior in what they knew was a troubled marriage is beyond belief. What would prevent her from not sharing commentary about it, if not the actual email communication she shared with Courtney Smith herself, and not discuss it at any intervening point until well after Zach Smith was eventually fired? 

Even now, he claims he doesn't know what prompted her not to share her conversation with Courtney Smith. Really. Seriously, you have never even discussed that part of it?

And yet, Meyer claimed that he and his wife were key advisors to Zach and Courtney during their time in Florida together and now insists he doesn't really know what his mindset at the time he rehired him to work at OSU. Again, these two claims don't add up.

And why? Because he has already been forced to acknowledge that he didn't share any information with folks at The Ohio State about Zach Smith's prior marital problems during their time in Gainesville before rehiring him and then continuing to reward him with large raises in spite of ongoing fireable behavior. Does this sound like honesty renewed or actually showing interest in the welfare of women, by himself or his wife, who apparently works as a nurse?

This sounds more like covering all bases to avoid responsibility. There are lots of indicators of that.

Report disclosure that evidence was allegedly destroyed, and requests for the confiscation of Meyer and Gene Smith's school funded phones were ignored without repercussion or consequence of any kind, says all we need to know about the comprehensiveness of OSU's actual investigation and punishment of Meyer's bad leadership, a given on any factual or common sense terms you want to consider. 

So, let's be clear The Ohio State did not want to find Meyer guilty of anything. They were simply going through the motions. This latest Meyer missive is simply more public excuse-making to salve local and distant audiences. Those that know the case and Meyer's character for what it is, aren't persuaded.

 

rs207200

September 17th, 2018 at 12:06 PM ^

His answers (lies) from this press conference are infuriating.

First, he just flat out refuses to use the word 'lie'. Instead, he didn't 'intend to mislead' at B1G Media Days. What the absolute f. He was asked the same question 10(!!) times and each time he lied. And to make it worse, he doubled down and attacked McMurphy in front of 100 of his peers stating 'I don't even know whom would make up a story like that."

But it doesn't matter, because Ohio State fans don't care and he wins.

 

His Dudeness

September 17th, 2018 at 12:23 PM ^

Guy is a complete scumbag. 

If you didn't have any opinions of OSU before all of this crap then you certainly should have one now. Apparently OSU is fine with having an employee that knew one of his staff was repeatedly beating his wife and did nothing about it.

Just disgusting all around. Way to set a garbage level baseline standard at AN Ohio State University. Well done. Alumni should be disgusted. This is sickening. Hope you win all your football games forever. Priorities. 

rs207200

September 17th, 2018 at 12:24 PM ^

I wonder if Ohio State University can get their millions back from that law firm that put out their report with so many inaccuracies? During his press conference today, Urban mentions that multiple facts stated in the report are incorrect.  

Blarvey

September 17th, 2018 at 12:35 PM ^

Why doesn't OSU order him to stop speaking out like this? He's making it worse on himself and the school by releasing these things. "My time away from the program in August gave me a chance to reflect and it gave me a chance to learn a great deal from these events." Did he learn about how to fight back against VERY lenient punishment or how to further lie about not knowing of the situation? 

Saying that he will "never will condone domestic abuse" just shows that he doesn't get it.

DrunkOnHiggins

September 17th, 2018 at 12:38 PM ^

Does anybody else picture this Urban apology like Ryan Leaf's apology where he gets done (half ass) reading the statement and then just throws the piece of paper behind the podium? 

Marvin

September 17th, 2018 at 1:10 PM ^

He feels lucky to still have a job, but his conscience is troubling him as he gets ready to move forward. The problem is that Meyer's conscience is simply the collective opinion of the world, rather than something internal to himself. So in order to salve his conscience, he must do all he can to recuperate himself in the public eye, and we see evidence of it here. 

This is the curse of the semi-moral personality. They can't by fully upstanding and they can't fully commit to being sinister, and the waffling that goes on in the meanwhile seems far worse than either extreme. 

sleeper

September 17th, 2018 at 1:21 PM ^

This is the point that I keep coming back too. His whole reasoning for not firing him is that he was trying to help the family, but your wife get's this info and we are to believe she never shared it with him. 

This was tweeted by Peter Burns of ESPN: To believe Urban is 100% truthful, he is asking you to believe that him and his wife took a couple under their wing after a violent domestic dispute in 2009 in order to help them, but in 2015 when other issues arose, Urban’s wife never even mentioned it to him once.

charblue.

September 17th, 2018 at 1:53 PM ^

Well, of course, this is the rub. He can't admit behavior that incriminates his own belief systerm, whether recommitted or not.

Look, the narcissist in chief never wrote this well-conceived public relations piece. His only contribution was message approval, giving him control over the parsing of words in the statement, which explains why there is no acknowledgement of anything more critical than giving a "misstatement" to the press during Media Days and regret over bad leadership. No shit.

He lied throughout the process and now wants the world to give him absolution for coming clean on his own terms. He didn't write this, and you can tell simply based on the sentence structure; It was written by a professional not a coach with limited writing skills. The wording is not his writing style, and moreover I believe he was likely required to issue it as part of his reinstatement. The compromise for him was getting final message approval.

Yesterday, as part of his two-part ESPN interview with Rinaldi, he claimed that everyone should know that he is completely opposed to domestic violence. But in his life trial on this issue, he failed miserably and then compounded it by still insisting that when evidence of it was offered his wife, she never bothered to communicate it with him --ever.  Why? Wouldn't you have enough curiousity to ask her why she did that, even if this contention is to be marginally believed?

This is simply a means of covering up what you don't want anyone to challenge and to use your wife as your reputation foil, which is a probably a smart legal shield --spouses can't testify against each other--is a very violation of his alleged commitment to treating women with respect.

There are no good answers or solutions here. There is just the politics of public remorse demonstration and ending the Meyer news cycle, until the narcissist in chief decides he can't live without getting his pound of public love without winning alone. Must suck to be seen as always eating cold pizza as a successful coach without public respect.

kehnonymous

September 17th, 2018 at 1:31 PM ^

Far be it from me, a layperson, to say that Urban Meyer is a classic psycopath, but I daresay that his depth of knowledge on spread offense concepts and power run schemes rival's Patrick Bateman's insight on Huey Lewis and the News' music as a bellwether of late 80's zeitgeist

ih8losing

September 17th, 2018 at 3:03 PM ^

but didn't everyone down in Ohio say there was no domestic violence? Why is Urban now apologizing for not doing more then? Ah, good ol' sand in the eyes for everyone to enjoy

Catchafire

September 17th, 2018 at 3:13 PM ^

Time for us to move on.  If he genuinely did NOT know about it then we really dragged an innocent man through the ringer... If he did know about it, then obviously he is a scum bag and shouldn't coach another day of college football.

michelin

September 17th, 2018 at 4:51 PM ^

Meyer has a bot set up to periodically generate sincere apologies..

Reportedly, he once said "Always be sincere.  Even if you don't really mean it."

 

pdxwolve

September 17th, 2018 at 5:00 PM ^

I've kind of dismissed this guy as a human at this point. He may win 10 NC, but no way I'd want this guy as our coach. He's going to sit at hell's coaching table with JoePa someday ...

FrozeMangoes

September 17th, 2018 at 7:01 PM ^

I think an often overlooked facet of this whole thing is when OSU had to put their HC on leave, they couldn't promote their top two assistants because they both had their own scandals.  But, sure, ya, you betcha, honesty and character and what not.