What are you realistic expectations for the season now?
There were, as there always are, a lot of big claims and blustery predictions of championships at the start of every season. Nobody had this game penciled in as a loss, so I was wondering what the real expectations are now.
I'm not asking what you hope to happen; what do you expect at this point?
September 4th, 2018 at 3:48 PM ^
I'll wait until after the NW game to make any predictions. WMU and SMU won't tell us much. Who knows on Nebraska right now.
September 4th, 2018 at 3:48 PM ^
10-2 but 9-3 looks more likely ..
September 4th, 2018 at 3:49 PM ^
Still fine with 9-3. But 7 wins is far more likely than 11. And 8 is probably more likely than 10.
Our defense is still elite IMO. ND just made a lot of 50/50 plays and those should balance out on the year. Offense needs work but if we can get Runyan to be not a tire fire (not even average, just not a revolving door) or Hudson comes in and is better than our offense will take a big step forward from what we saw against ND.
September 4th, 2018 at 3:50 PM ^
It's still 9-3 to me. For as bad as they looked against ND, I also saw weaknesses in teams like MSU and PSU that make those games feel less daunting.
September 4th, 2018 at 3:57 PM ^
We May very well beat Michigan State. But I do find it funny how every single year they play like crap at the beginning of the season then everyone gets unrealistic expectations that they’re not gonna be any good. They will be a fine tuned machine when they play us. And by the way that will be another ranked away game opponent for us. I don’t recall our record being very good in those games
September 4th, 2018 at 3:54 PM ^
"Nobody had this game penciled in as a loss"
I did. A road game at ND at night. That combination never bodes well for us. On the flip side, in 1988, we went to the Rose Bowl and in 1990 we were #1 within a few weeks of that loss. Things can turn around for us quickly.
I believe we will be 9-2 with a shot at Indy on the line in Columbus. While people were busy looking at us play poorly, they must have forgotten that MSU almost lost to a WAC team and PSU almost lost to a Sun Belt team.
September 4th, 2018 at 3:55 PM ^
7-6 worst-case.
L's @MSU, @OSU
Surprise win v. PSU
Three other losses @ NW, v. WISC, and one inexplicable loss.
September 4th, 2018 at 3:58 PM ^
Must have a offensive line. Plain and simple. We could have Cam Newton at quarterback and still he would suck bc we can’t pass block. Until we can figure that out, we’re going to have the same problems.
September 4th, 2018 at 3:59 PM ^
Win every game.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:05 PM ^
It would be hilarious is Michigan proceeded to go 11-1 after last weekend's loss.
I mean, that would be something else.
An MGOBOARD with shiny happy people for once.
September 4th, 2018 at 6:20 PM ^
The 80's & 90's were weird.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:00 PM ^
I really thought we were going to beat Notre dame by the exact score we lost by.
So, after seeing us Saturday, I would say we are an 7-8 win team again. I don't see us beating MSU, OSU, Wisconsin or PSU. I have a real hard time seeing us go in and winning those games.
It sucks, because it was so excited about this season. I do get the pleasure of taking my 7 year old to the Western game this weekend, so it would be nice to score a ton of offensive touchdowns. I think he would really get excited.
Oh well. Maybe we will turn out to be great this year. I know the defense will be. I am for sure a Nico fan, so there's that.
I'm going to say 7-5 with losses to Wisconcin, PSU, MSU, and OSU. Not because I want to wallow in self pity, and get all pissed off about the Notre Dame loss, but because I think those teams are better than us. Especially since we play 2 of them on the road.
This is all feelingsball kind of stuff. I may be wrong, and I really hope I am.
The caveat, maybe Shea gets pissed off and just explodes on teams. Who knows.
I hope the team comes out strong against WMU. That would be fun.
Go Blue, friends. Sorry we all had to suffer last weekend. Hope our season has some surprises in store for us, like an upset against Wisconsin, MSU and OSU. That would be nice.
September 5th, 2018 at 12:56 AM ^
I have about the same estimate at 7-5. I just hope that we at least develop the young O lineman for next year and escape the season with Shea intact. If we could go 8-4 and pull off a win against a rival I wouldn’t be disappointed.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:02 PM ^
It's pretty much the same as what I had before: 9-3. 10-2 best case scenario.
You guys keeps forgetting what Michigan football holds in its back pocket once again this year.
And that one things is just how badly the BIG10 sucks at football.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:04 PM ^
After week 1 i see us 9-3 beating msu and psu. Wiscy looked good and osu looks elite. I hope the boys are ready because it is going to get much harder.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:07 PM ^
8-4. Losses to ND, Wisky, MSU, and OSU. JH goes 1-8 against rivals in first 4 years.
JH can’t seem to pull it all together at one time on offense. One position group is so bad that it drags down the entire unit. Last year: QB. This year: offensive tackle.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:18 PM ^
I said 8-4 before the season but 7-5 could be possible now. 8-4 is the absolute ceiling. Will lose to MSU, Wisconsin, and OSU.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:20 PM ^
That Ambry Thomas gets at least 5 snaps a game on offense. On a team completely devastated by attrition at WR, on a team with zero home run threats, on a team with secondary depth out the wazoo...it’s insane to me that someone as electric as Ambry wouldn’t be used more.
Failure to to do so will cause me to cry, and to question if Jim has any creativity left.
September 4th, 2018 at 7:53 PM ^
This is a frustrated and emotional take...and it’s flat out wrong on almost every level.
You could name a few legit trouble spots on the team based on Saturday’s game, but WR wasn’t one of them. In fact, WR was one of the good spots in our game. IIRC, I don’t believe our WRs dropped a pass all game and we saw really solid contributions from Perry, Martin and DPJ.
Also a few more pints you had that are just wrong.
Tarik Black getting injured =/= the position group being “completely devastated.”
You say we are “A team with zero home run threats.” You are forgetting DPJ who does a great job getting behind coverage, is speedy and is a definite HR threat as long as he has a QB who a) has time to throw the ball and b) is accurate.
I’m not saying Ambry couldn’t do some cool stuff on offense, but it’s not like we are desperate for great WR play.
September 5th, 2018 at 1:04 AM ^
Yeah the receivers played solid. I can just tell DPJ hates blocking though. I notice less effort from him when blocking compared to everyone else.
Yes budz’s take was emotional but I do think you could use Ambry in more ways, with the first one making him our punt returner. We also have to add some playmaking and explosiveness to the offense somehow. Maybe he could help.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:21 PM ^
10-2. Lose the first and last game and win everything in between.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:30 PM ^
It would be a bummer to lose in the first round of the CFP.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:23 PM ^
Anyone with a pocket passer, Win. Anyone with a scrambler, lose. We have never figured that shit out,.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:23 PM ^
Was at 8-4 (5-4)
Now I'm at 6-6 (4-5)
Not inspired by that offensive performance.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:24 PM ^
Looking at all the toss-ups (not sure-wins or must-wins), I still think we can come out on top in some of them. ND was a toss-up that's now a loss, so we go on from here:
@ND - L (was toss up)
WMU - W
SMU - W
Neb - W
@NW - 50-50 W (this is our one "this always happens" possibility for a surprise loss)
MD - W
Wisc - 50-50 W
@MSU - 50-50 W
PSU - 50-50 W
Rutgers - W
Indiana - W
OSU - 50-50 W
So in "certainty" games we're 6-1
We have five toss-ups. That's 2.5 wins, 2.5 losses. We go 8.5 and 3.5.
I think our best hope is to have no more than 3 total losses, and all of them be NY6 or playoff teams (ND, Wisconsin, OSU); or beat OSU and still have a minimum of 3 losses besides. That would be enough to get us into the NY6 game against the Group of Five qualifier and give us a shot at another 10-win season with an NY6 win, which would be our best result under Harbaugh.
I do think we're far better than we showed Saturday, as opposed to far worse. I don't think we'll be much worse than that this year, barring injuries, and some flukey and mistake-y things happened that hopefully won't crop up again.
One more sign of hope: For at least this week, it appears Jim has taken time off from his podcast, which I really enjoy in the offseason but bothers me that Coach spends time on it the day after a game, even if it's a win.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:41 PM ^
Given your chart, I think our best hope is to win all the 50-50 games, which puts us in the CFP
September 4th, 2018 at 4:27 PM ^
If Brandon Wimbush is the guy he was against us for the rest of the season, that is an elite team we just lost to by one score. The sky is not falling. I could still see 10-2.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:28 PM ^
Still expecting wins of MSU and OSU
September 4th, 2018 at 4:30 PM ^
10-2 is the ceiling unfortunately. Not ready to beat OSU on the road unless they have some significant injuries during the year and we improve offensively and stay healthy.
MSU is a must win no matter how you slice it.
I suspect we split between Wisconsin and PSU and finish 9-3.
Northwestern has me a little nervous right now on the road, but I believe Michigan will prevail.
Is Texas overrated as always or can Maryland potentially be good?
Bottom is 7-5, but god help us all if Michigan ends up here.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:31 PM ^
No expectations.
It would be nice to see the team play as if they intend to kick some ass.
We haven't had that mentality in years from this team. Truth is, they are soft.
We will endure more disappointment until they tire of getting bitch slapped by good teams.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:33 PM ^
Nothing’s changed for me. I still think we beat Sparty, and play OSU for the Big Ten East Championship.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:50 PM ^
Not sure what world you're living in but in this one our program is run by a moron and can't beat anyone with a winning record. Still, luck exists, so 8-4 sounds about right.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:36 PM ^
9-3 with losses against two of the following schools:
- WMU
- SMU
- Nebraska
- Northwestern
- Maryland
- Wisc
- MSU
- *bye week*
- PSU
- Rutger
- Indiana
- OSU
September 4th, 2018 at 4:44 PM ^
I'm not as down on the team anymore. I blame the ND loss on schedule and not exactly the team to begin with. You simply SHOULT NOT schedule an away game with ND given our schedule... Just NO.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:49 PM ^
I think the critical game is at NW. Win that one on the road against what may be a top 25 opponent and this team develops some confidence. Maybe that confidence spills over into the Wisconsin game and we get a W there. In this scenario I can see us going 9-3 (losses to OSU and either/or MSU/PSU). However, if we lose at NW I just can't see us recovering to beat any of the four remaining big ones, in which case I think we'reost likely looking at 6-6, or 7-5 at best.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:54 PM ^
None. Beat Broncos then we know we have a better team. Then on to the next week. My expectations are gone. Drank too much NFL coach koolaid. Prove you can win one big game is my expectation. That may define the season.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:56 PM ^
My expectation is that Shea channels *2013 angry Taylor Lewan* and we cruise to some wins until PSU when he hobbles off the field in pain and disgust just as Taylor did in Happy Valley 5 years ago. A middling 7-5 with humbling losses capped by an mgobatshit board igniting defeat to KSU in the Haribo Gummi Bear Bowl in Galveston, Texas on December 18.
September 4th, 2018 at 4:56 PM ^
The second half of the ND game proved that the defense just came out over-hyped and that mindset led to undisciplined play in the 1st half. This is still a top 5 defense and that alone will carry this team to an 8-4 but more than likely 9-3 season, with losses to Wisc., Northwestern and OSU. Yes, they beat Sparty because the Karma Gods demand a Dantonio "after the fall" GIF!
How they get to 10-2 is by the offensive line taking the next 3 games to gel and settle in to "above-average" status that will allow the offense to do just enough ( 24+ ppg) to compliment a shut-down defense (13ppg). In that scenario, they beat Wisc., and NW.
How they get to 11-1 is simple... they finally get over the hump of bad calls, bad luck, and recent history by arriving in Columbus, playing/coaching the game of their lives and pulling the upset to go to the B10 Championship. .
September 4th, 2018 at 4:59 PM ^
you do know Ryan Field is basically a Michigan bar with Northwestern fans allowed to sit and eat some chicken tenders with us, right? Not seeing a loss there.
September 4th, 2018 at 5:00 PM ^
11 -1 .
September 4th, 2018 at 5:00 PM ^
10-2. I think we can win until the OSU game. Wisconsin is good, but I think it goes in our favor since it's at home and Shea will have some magic.
September 4th, 2018 at 5:05 PM ^
8-4 isn't the best case or the worse case but the most realistic.
Likely losses:
Wisc @ Home
MSU @ MSU
OSU @ OSU
Other possible losses:
PSU @ Home
NW @ NW
Best case I can envision now is 9-3 worst case is 6-6
September 4th, 2018 at 5:25 PM ^
We won’t lose at state. I guarantee it. If one thing has been under harbaugh skin it’s that game. I think Patterson will be Utah state times a million. Hopefully Jim realizes now that teams have two drives scripted to start each game with all of our defenses weaknesses. Mark kind of crafted that. Maybe we could plan ahead a little and use that against them??
September 4th, 2018 at 5:33 PM ^
Oh, a guarantee to beat MSU. Now there's a claim that hasn't been made here a thousand times before.
September 5th, 2018 at 6:44 AM ^
Thanks for the reminder of why I don’t really post on mgoblog. Have fun in your unobjectionable sorrows.
September 4th, 2018 at 5:06 PM ^
"Nobody had this game penciled in as a loss"
Not everybody—I had it 23-21 Notre Dame. My season prediction before the game was 9-3; right now I'd say 8-4 is more likely unless we solve some critical issues on offense.
September 4th, 2018 at 5:22 PM ^
I thought it would be a loss. It’s really hard to play a night game there as it is and with a new quarterback, center and tackle it was brutal. Plus I still think our safeties are still pretty rough , sorry.