Notre Dame Snowflakes: The Offense
September 1st, 2018 at 11:30 PM ^
Meeting Winovich at the QB. They put an absolute beating on Wimbush in the second half. Which is the other half of why Kelly went super conservative.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:23 PM ^
At this rate I'd be happy with 8-5. And by happy I mean I'll read about it later because I can't stomach that. We have to be better than that effort.... right!?!?!?
September 1st, 2018 at 11:23 PM ^
Mineral King called a win....
He also called McCaffrey 2nd string.
I think a lot of people owe him an apology.
But who the Fuck cares? Nothing was fixed and season is over.
September 2nd, 2018 at 11:50 AM ^
Quite a few people called Dylan McCaffrey at 2nd string.
The question has to be asked, was Brandon Peters put at 2nd in depth chart to keep him from transferring?
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:16 PM ^
Peters was second string he was injured this week. I see that you are replying to another one of your accounts.
September 2nd, 2018 at 1:12 PM ^
Exactly.
We were asked to apologize to MK, despite him being wrong in both of his predictions.
And WC triple-posted and immediately upvoted each of his posts.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:23 PM ^
QB play was much better than last year by both QB's. The offensive line was worse. How can it be worse? No excuse for that. The receivers got open and made the catches so there's that. It all comes down to that line
September 1st, 2018 at 11:57 PM ^
OL faced a top 10 or maybe top 5 defense, which is probably why it looked worse. We shouldn’t have agreed to play ND away for the first game of the season. I like playing ND, but sacrificing another home game to renew the rivalry was Stupid.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:23 PM ^
Mineral King called a win....
He also called McCaffrey 2nd string.
I think a lot of people owe him an apology.
But who the Fuck cares? Nothing was fixed and season is over.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:24 PM ^
Mineral King called a win....
He also called McCaffrey 2nd string.
I think a lot of people owe him an apology.
But who the Fuck cares? Nothing was fixed and season is over.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:24 PM ^
Whole OLine needs to be put through concussion protocol cause they're FUCKING BRAINDEAD
September 1st, 2018 at 11:25 PM ^
I don’t know about the rest of you, but after the debacle of the hype train of 2017 and the dismal results, I was able to discount around 50% of this summers lies and bullshit.
The other 50% sucked me in a bit, but tonight was much less a surprise than say last years MSU loss.
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:44 AM ^
I was a pessimistic as i could be. Everytime someone on here discounted ND like they did last year vs MSU and PSU and Wisconsin i ignored and fought the good fight. I knew 19 was NDs magic number.
That being said I really feel like an idiot for being TOO optimisitc. Reality was worse. My head hurts.
Why do anything other than play 3 patsies to start the year. Beat OSU msu psu and of course we will always play the best team from the west and the BIG ten championship. Thats double Bamas tough games.
September 2nd, 2018 at 7:44 AM ^
When Bama wins a tough game (it is quite often I might add) it is usually in The National Championship Game. Big difference! At this point it is safe to say that EVERY game on UMs schedule will be tough. More often than not the "best coach" on the field will be on the opposing teams sideline.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:25 PM ^
OLine was pathetic once again. Coaches didn't do anything from a Play calling perspective to try to mask the OL deficiencies. I saw enough from Runyan after 1 series, I don't know how he can possibly be the best option at LT.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:58 PM ^
Actually they did - most of the passes were quick throws and they had designed roll outs and wr screens. I think they knew that the OL was a problem going in. We also started chipping the DE in the second half - should have done that from the start.
I think this team will be better with multiple TE and backs until they get the OL sorted out. Forget the zone reads and empty looks.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:27 PM ^
I'm so sick of the hype every year with no results. I don't care if this is the thread for the offense, this program is ridiculous. Top 10 recruiting classes, all the reaources in the world, "Harbaugh". But yet we shit our pants in any game that means anything. Harbaugh is a joke. It's true and anyone that has eyeballs knows it's true. Enough with the "who has it better than us?!" bullshit, because everyone has it better than us! For the past 15 years our teams have been soft, coaching has been putrid and we're a shell of what we used to be. We were unbelievably lucky to lose that game by 7 pts. We're irrelevant. Truth hurts. And yes I'm actually sober. Just pissed.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:28 PM ^
Bring back power football and get some tackles, yo.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:31 PM ^
John Runyan couldn’t have blocked a mannequin today
September 1st, 2018 at 11:31 PM ^
I remember reading something last week that Jon Jansen said this OL was looking tons better than last year. Not sure he was looking at the same thing I saw tonight.
I think I have hit a whole new stage of grief tonight.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:33 PM ^
GOOD NEWS!
We won't actually miss Tarik that much. Remember when we was all freakin about how NOW it's time to adjust expectations after he got hurt? Lulz.
He wouldn't have made a difference either.
What a bunch of buttholes we Michigan fans are.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:33 PM ^
Time to pump the brakes on the Gentry hype. Dude played like shit.
September 2nd, 2018 at 7:10 AM ^
Yeah, not too impressed on any of the TEs overall. GOT to be able to bring in that ball in the end zone. Had some solid catches, but blocking was abysmal.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:33 PM ^
Way to many mistakes. Botched FG, sack to put us out of FG range, late hit, failure to knock the ball down or intercept it when it is right in front of your face.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:33 PM ^
Harbaugh cant field an offensive line. Patterson is actually a pretty good qb . but if u can’t give him time it doesn’t matter. The WR are ok TE are decent but the team needs an oline. Dantonios gonna have a field day if this is the best we can do let alone Meyer
September 1st, 2018 at 11:34 PM ^
This team is in trouble. o line looks suspect and so does our offense. Only put up 7 pts sick of this
September 1st, 2018 at 11:34 PM ^
McCaffrey is the real deal. I was in the open practice and have a feeling that he already pass Peters, based on his accuracy and consistentcy. Peter threw a lot of sloppy throw in those simple practice.
I am completely unsurprised when he become a 2nd QB. And his play wow me. He has pressure on his face as well, but make every decision right in a split second. He just need more experience. He is the real deal. there were two three plays, when the pressure comes, he make a play for a positive gain for a few yards, keep the chain moving. He will be our real deal. Give our crappy OL again, I am not suprised he will start at some point this season. This O group just cannot protect our QBs.
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:14 AM ^
Unfortunate but true, McCaffrey will probably have to come in more than once because we cannot protect QB.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:36 PM ^
THey looked like a team in its first preseason game with a new QB and band aids at OT. A month from now they have a legit chance to beat this team. They better be ahead of Scott Frost.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:48 PM ^
I hope you’re right, but I think Frost is a significantly better college coach than Harbaugh. He took a UCF team that was winless and had them undefeated in just 2 years - and their bowl win over Auburn is more impressive than any win by Harbaugh while at Michigan.
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:08 AM ^
Michgan loses @Nebraska unless they figure out the O-Line.
September 2nd, 2018 at 7:54 AM ^
Frost>Harbaugh no question about it. Truth be told Harbaugh probably not in top 15-20 college coaches in America. A sad reality most around here will have to come to terms with.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:39 PM ^
We could have won, we also could have lost by 28 as ND went into a shell on offense the second half.
Patterson was bad, no two ways about it. Showed some things, but overall a D+ performance. I tried to tell people to slow their roll on him, he was not a good QB last season when you look inside his numbers. He put up almost all his good number vs FCS teams, 4-8 Vanderbilt, and Auburn’s 3rd sting defense. I still like his skill set, but he’s a work in progress.
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:01 AM ^
If you watched that SEC podcast on Patterson they basically nailed it.
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:06 AM ^
Biggest problem with Patterson is his processing speed and his tendency to hold onto the ball too long. The first sack that put them out of FG range is a good example why. It was an empty with an obvious blitz coming to the frontside. What did Shea do? Hold onto the ball too long.
He was better than I thought he would be but still wasn't good enough to mask the OL deficiencies.
September 2nd, 2018 at 8:57 AM ^
One of the biggest examples of this was probably the biggest play in the second half.
We were driving and had a 2nd and 1 and then there was either miss communication or something between Higdon and Ruiz but their LB Coney came on a delayed blitz up the middle and neither got him. Looked like Higdon was going to chip and then look for a pass but regardless Patterson needs to feel that pressure and either side step it and run up a huge whole in the middle or just eat it. Instead he threw it off his back foot to a spot that clearly wasn't open.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:40 PM ^
Harbaugh can’t design or run a top flight college offense anymore. The only decent offense was a Jed Fish creation. It’s not Drevno or Pep, it’s Harbaugh. I’m not saying fire him or anything stupid like that. There isn’t anyone better available. It’s just a fact there isn’t some glorious “fully operated Harbaugh-fence” that we are moving toward. It will sometimes be better than this, because we have to eventually get P5 level play from at least one tackle. But it’s never going to be great unless we get a real college OC and let him run the show.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:53 PM ^
I'm not advocating for firing him either, but I don't get the whole "there's no one out there better."
Im sure there are several coaches out there that could muster up a little better than 8-8 in last 16 games and 1-6 against your 3 main rivals.
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:30 AM ^
I'll take Satterfield, the coach from App State. We complained about youth last year, while he took the second youngest FBS team into Happy Valley today and almost walked out with a W.
September 2nd, 2018 at 1:34 AM ^
Eh, I mean sure, he might be awesome. But Brady Hoke was pretty good with small time programs too.
September 2nd, 2018 at 8:08 AM ^
Agreed! "Theres no one out there better" is total BS. I am so tired seeing programs rise from the dead and pass Michigan by. There are far better coaches out there than Harbaugh. Problem is he was placed on a pedestal and proclaimed the "savior" of UM football. Fact is the prodigal son has not delivered. Time will come where there will only be two options...stay the course with JH and accept the fact UM will be 8-9 win program every year, or count our losses and move forward.Other teams show improvement coming out of offseason, why does Michigan wait to do it during the season?
September 2nd, 2018 at 1:36 AM ^
I like Harbaugh but he hasn't won jack shit in college.
There are actually dozens of college coaches better than him, including a couple in our division but I'd never want to see most of them coach at Michigan.
This program is looking lost.
September 2nd, 2018 at 9:27 AM ^
It’s been a long time in the desert. Eventually we are just going to be considered a second tier big ten team perpetually. Could be a long time before we compete with OSU again.
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:29 PM ^
I keep hearing this, but don’t see names given. I’m genuinely curious...who should we go after?
September 2nd, 2018 at 4:09 PM ^
It not my job to find Michigan a new head football coach. It's Warde's.
But any, literally ANY P5 coach that has won 1-2 games against top 25 teams for a few years in a row would likely be an improvement.
Many are sleaze bags with unwanted baggage that understandably disqualifies them, but here is a list of P5 coaches and where they were subjectively ranked this Spring.
I wouldn't automatically limit it to P5 but ponder for yourself.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ranking-the-top-25-power-five-college-football-coaches-entering-the-2018-season/
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:22 PM ^
So Jed Fish designed the Stanford Offense... smh
September 1st, 2018 at 11:41 PM ^
Our offense is terrible. It’s not just the oline. Our D blew up ND’s Oline all game.
Our play calling lost us this game. How many times did shea Patterson throw the ball downfield on first down. On obvious passing downs, why did we not use misdirection, screens, slants, etc. Who runs on 2nd and 14, only to go for it on 4th and 7.
ND beat us by being aggressive on offense and using our speed against us. We adjusted on D in the second half, but we had a “play not to lose” offensive game plan the whole game. We have the worst offensive play calling that you can buy. Any of us, would get fired for this sad game plan.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:51 PM ^
on point
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:00 AM ^
we did use one slant in 1st quarter and it was successful on a 3rd down. they could call more with Shea's accuracy. The coach didn't help him to win. they were overconfident about their OL and DL, and when shit happened on the field, they don't have a back-up plan to fix the OL issue and implement those in their game plan. the two running call after we intercept their ball still bothers me. What the hell? just get a long throw to test their safety. didn't your coaches read Brian's post about ND's weakness?
September 1st, 2018 at 11:41 PM ^
Our offense is terrible. It’s not just the oline. Our D blew up ND’s Oline all game.
Our play calling lost us this game. How many times did shea Patterson throw the ball downfield on first down. On obvious passing downs, why did we not use misdirection, screens, slants, etc. Who runs on 2nd and 14, only to go for it on 4th and 7.
ND beat us by being aggressive on offense and using our speed against us. We adjusted on D in the second half, but we had a “play not to lose” offensive game plan the whole game. We have the worst offensive play calling that you can buy. Any of us, would get fired for this sad game plan.