What is wrong with this entire program?

Submitted by UMxWolverines on September 1st, 2018 at 10:20 PM

We have been laying eggs for literally decades in big games. MSU gets better results than us with lower rated recruits. So does Wisconsin. 

I'm on a small vacation right now, and I wonder why I've wasted the last few hours watching this. I used to be the biggest Michigan fan anyone knew as a kid, but I'm now 24 as of 3 days ago, and I haven't seen us do shit since I was 10. Even that year we lost to a 6-4 OSU and Notre Dame coached by Charlie Weis. 

I've been texting back and forth with my uncle who has had season tickets since the 70s, he says this is the last year for tickets and I don't really blame him. This stuff is too predictable and I don't get that many free Saturday's anymore with my job. 


We hired the hottest coach in football in 2014...Why is it no matter who coaches here they can't get results? I just don't get it. Nobody on our team has looked hyped to play, just like MSU last year. Is it mentality? They expect to just waltz in and win without preparing? 



September 1st, 2018 at 10:55 PM ^

Jim Harbaugh is the problem.  $8,000,000 for what?  Run the ball straight up the middle?  The most uncreative play calls known to mankind.  No onsides kick.  This loss, not the season yet, is clearly 100% on Jim Harbaugh.  Our offense has talent and Harbaugh seemed to do whatever he could to limit that talent.  


September 1st, 2018 at 11:18 PM ^

I thought it was the right call to kick it deep and not try the onside kick at the time and it seemed to work.  Our defense was finally hot and we forced a three and out and got the ball back with 2 minutes at about the 25 yard line.

Suppose we tried an onside kick that failed and then they ran the same 3 plays with the same three results...they likely have the ball at our 37 with a 4th and 2 and go for it to kill the clock.

L'Carpetron Do…

September 2nd, 2018 at 12:59 AM ^

i was so bummed because I like him so much but maybe he is?  they were so good in the 2nd half but im so confused because they also spotted ND 14 weak ass points. It seems like they had the capability to hold them to fewer but they didnt do it. And that was the difference in the game.  I'm still confused.

I'm mostly disappointed that this was so much last year - offense was sragnant and awful and the defense was great. If only the O provided a few more points it wouldve been an easy W.  So, in conclusion -  I dont know what to think? Help me, please.



September 2nd, 2018 at 6:36 AM ^

So, we’re playing a top 15 team on the road, holding them to 3 2nd half pts with a brand new QB to the team. 

It will take a minute to get Pattterson and the offense to hold chemistry, but I loved what I saw from him. 

ND made some amazing plays in the first quarter that would probably not work 8 out of 10 times. Their chemistry was better and they were playing with all the juice of the home crowd.

remember Harbaugh’s first season. We went on the road and lost by 1 TD to Utah. Jake Rudock was a new transfer to the program and  we lacked some chemistry that led to some turnovers. Within a few games, we became one of the most formidable offenses in the country. That was with 100% Hoke recruits who were good, but maybe not elite. Compare potential between Rudock and Patterson. Look at the roster from 2015 to 2018. The speed on the D is much improved and our playmakers will be incredible if they get in sync with each other.


September 2nd, 2018 at 10:19 AM ^

The constant, pedal to the metal, 100% aggression is getting tiresome. If you are always one thing, and one thing only, over teams will know how to burn you. We are constantly overcommitting to plays and leave HUGE lanes for mobile QBs to tear up. 

Throw a curve ball every once in a while D Brown....it won't kill you.


September 1st, 2018 at 11:17 PM ^

I've been patient. 

I waited for Rich Rod to get things rolling--and to shore up the D.  I wanted Hoke to outperform every other stop; alas, he lucked into Denard that first year.

I tried to be calm when officials took matters into their own hands.  Even when it happened again and again in the same games, against the same teams.

Every season I tried to hold expectations in check, but secretly hoped the OL would turn a corner--and the last six or seven years, that the O would match the D.

I've been reasonable; I've taken the rational approach.  Never too high; never too low. 

But I'm really tired.  I've reached apathy.  I think I need a break. 

Bando Calrissian

September 1st, 2018 at 10:24 PM ^

I'm beginning to think something was inextricably broken in the transition to RichRod, and there's no way of fixing it. All momentum this program had for forty years, completely gone. Rebuilding that, it seems, is impossible.

Embrace the mediocrity, stop caring, live your life. It's only crappy football.


September 1st, 2018 at 11:25 PM ^

That's' where I'm at... my wife was watching it with me and said.. hey you can yell a bit.. if it's too much I'll just head back upstairs, don't hold back on my account. (We finished the basement late last year). I was like.. nah.. I just don't have it anymore. I embrace the fact that we don't kill players.. or put up with pedophiles.. rapists... wife beaters.. but then you have to listen to Mike Tirico, also noted sex offender.. basically be a ND slappy and it's like.. whatever... embrace the suck. It's fine, everything's fine.



OSUMC Wolverine

September 1st, 2018 at 10:26 PM ^

The problem is 50 programs have the talent to win 10 games a year....many do it year after year with less talent than Michigan.  We may not have the talent for top 5 every year....but to fail for the most part to be nationally relevant with top 10 recruited talent for 20 years is painful.

Brenni Fresh

September 1st, 2018 at 10:28 PM ^

If you have a terrible offensive line for 10 years you cannot run the ball or pass the ball and it doesn't matter if you have the best defense, Denard, Braylon, Brady. You cannot play football.

I Like Burgers

September 1st, 2018 at 10:53 PM ^

I think Higdon is generally fine and probably would look like a totally different back behind Ohio State's OL.  Chris Evans would probably be a really good weapon for a lot of good teams with an OL.  But its tough to look like a good RB (or QB) when you're consistently met at the line of scrimmage or in the backfield by a wave of defenders. Turns a lot of 5-10 yard runs into 1-2 yard runs.


September 1st, 2018 at 10:31 PM ^

The offensive line is the most important unit on the team and we have not had a serviceable one for well over a decade. It starts their. After that, I’ll need 3 weeks to cover everything wrong with the program. 


September 1st, 2018 at 10:31 PM ^

I just can’t understand why we have so many problems with the O Line.    They look no better than last year.  Kudos to ND for using our speed on “D” against us.  

I Like Burgers

September 1st, 2018 at 10:41 PM ^

I can't understand how they recruit the OT position in general.  Its been a major red flag since Harbaugh took over and they recruit the position like its no big deal.  Take 3-4 OTs every single year until it stops being an issue.

We're in year fucking 45 of this never-ending OL shit show and our best hopes for the position are STILL a converted DL and true freshman.







Perkis-Size Me

September 1st, 2018 at 10:31 PM ^

Meh. Even if you’re right, it’s a game. That’s why I stopped investing so much emotion in this several years ago. Especially after the ‘15 MSU debacle. It’s just a damn game.

OSU can win national titles every year for the next twenty years. What does it do to directly improve the lives of their fans? Nothing. They’ve still got to go to work, pay bills, deal with family bullshit, and deal with the same every day shit that we do.

Not being a sore loser. Just saying that the game of football is not worth getting upset over. 


September 1st, 2018 at 10:31 PM ^

Hoke may as well be coaching this team.  I really hate to say it.  Harbaugh isn't on the hot seat but he has definitely lost his luster.  Four years of not being prepared for any opponent with a pulse.  Four years of doing the least with the most anywhere in college football.