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Brian

12/28/2013 – Michigan 14, Kansas State 31 – 7-6, 3-5 Big Ten, season mercifully over

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If you were disinterested in a December bowl game that kicked off at 10:15 PM, don't feel bad about it. You are far from alone. Frank Clark:

"I think a lot of guys lost the will to play as a family. That's one thing you can't do in football. In football, you've got to stick in there and stay together as a family.

James Ross:

"It was our mindset from the jump, we weren't totally into it I would say. We didn't come out with a lot of energy."

For their part, the coaches didn't bother to go into the hurry-up down 18 points with 8 minutes left. As far as unconvincing attempts to look interested go, the fan is on level footing with the rest of the program.

The coaches did go up-tempo once it was 31-6, mysteriously. You've already given up. No one is going to feel better about losing by three scores to a 7-5 Big 12 team instead of four. I guess you have to send the message that You Never Give Up despite having already given up. That's the kind of program this is. We Never Give Up (we gave up).

That's as indicative of the current state of the Michigan football program as anything. Fail to live up to expectations, try to make it look good with meaningless hand-waving after things are decided. Michigan is just six… eight… sixteen… okay, thirty-five plays away from a really good season, you know, and Lloyd Carr's seniors are about to ride to the rescue.

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I guess it's good that Michigan conceded from the drop that they could not run the ball whatsoever, because they were right about that. Eight tailback carries on the night, and three of those were option pitches. Michigan did not repeat their mistakes from the Penn State game.

Unfortunately, while they've learned what they cannot do they have not learned to do anything. Kansas State gave up 301 rushing yards to Oklahoma on the second to last weekend of the regular season; Michigan stared that front seven down and said "no thanks, we like end-arounds."

The most frustrating thing about this season is that any hint of progress is quickly stomped out. Michigan has a human run game against Northwestern, then gets obliterated by Iowa; they are once again human against Ohio State, then correctly assume they are helpless against Kansas State.

Meanwhile, the defense is so incompetent against a modern packaged offense that Kansas State essentially ends the game by the second quarter. Michigan had zero answers for a play that Rich Rodriguez pioneered at this very university. Here we are, talking a big game about how This Is Michigan and playing football like it's 1989, the last time This Is Michigan actually meant This Is A Consistently Elite Football Program.

Bo hovers over the program with speeches about the team the team the team, but his penchant for running quarterbacks and option football and running the damn ball has been discarded in favor of notions about a "pro style" offense that reflects the modern-day NFL in no way whatsoever. Chip Kelly's taking a team that was 4-12 last year to the playoffs with Nick Foles as his quarterback. QED.

At the beginning of the year I wondered aloud if Michigan was going to end up on the wrong side of history here, what with their failed attempt to move to the spread traumatizing them so much that they'd mutter something about Denard Robinson holding the offense back from its true form, which is apparently lots and lots of end arounds with two tackles next to each other. And sacks. Michigan's base play this year was a tackle for loss. This was our innovation.

I like the thing where the quarterback pulls up to throw late better.

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It'll get better. I mean, you'd think so. I know that's what everyone said about the offensive line this year. But we've detailed the various ways in which the previous coaching staff decimated this roster on both lines and the fact that Hoke has collected and retained a lot of guys who will be maturing over the next couple years. Michigan won't be ripping the redshirt off an offensive lineman midseason again.

But at some point I realized that the only thing that resembled what football used to be—fun—came when Dennis Norfleet grabbed the ball on kick returns and once when he took an end-around. He juked a guy and got nine yards and I felt a little flutter. Then the grim trudge resumed.

Maybe the reason I hold onto Denard so hard is because he's about 90% of the fun that Michigan football has provided since Bo died. As this season descended into a lifeless backwards march, I kept thinking about my uncle's exclamation during the 2008 Fandom Endurance III Northwestern game: "We do this for fun!" We did even then. There was a perverse joy in our abject stupidity. Five years on, all the diamonds have been sifted from that ash. We do this out of momentum now.

Awards

brady-hoke-epic-double-point_thumb_31[2]Brady Hoke Epic Double Point Of The Week. Obviously no one on the defense can acquire this, as the defense was completely disassembled. The offense… barely scraped over 200 yards thanks to a Shane Morris QB draw that went for 40. Jesus. Uh.

Well, Jeremy Gallon did break the single-season receiving record and is a cool dude, so Jeremy Gallon.

Honorable mention: Shane Morris?

Epic Double Point Standings.

3.0: Jeremy Gallon (ND, Indiana, K-State)
2.0: Devin Gardner(ND, OSU)
1.0: Desmond Morgan(UConn), Devin Funchess(Minnesota), Frank Clark(PSU), Matt Wile (Nebraska), James Ross (Northwestern)
0.5: Cam Gordon (CMU), Brennen Beyer (CMU)

Brady Hoke Epic Double Fist-Pump Of The Week. Nope.

Epic Double Fist-Pumps Past.

8/31/2013: Dymonte Thomas introduces himself by blocking a punt.
9/7/2013: Jeremy Gallon spins through four Notre Dame defenders for a 61-yard touchdown.
9/14/2013: Michigan does not lose to Akron. Thanks, Thomas Gordon.
9/21/2013: Desmond Morgan's leaping one-handed spear INT saves Michigan's bacon against UConn.
10/5/2013: Fitzgerald Toussaint runs for ten yards, gets touchdown rather easily.
10/12/2013: Devin Funchess shoots up the middle of the field to catch a 40 yard touchdown, staking Michigan to a ten-point lead they wouldn't relinquish. (Right?)
10/19/2013: Thomas Gordon picks off an Indiana pass to end the Hoosiers' last drive that could have taken the lead.
11/2/2013: Clock expires.
11/9/2013: Nebraska muffs a punt through no action of Michigan's.
11/16/2013: Michigan executes a clock-running last-second field goal to get the game to OT.
11/23/2013: 404 file not found
11/30/2013: Michigan forces a Hyde fumble to get back in the game.

imageMARCUS HALL EPIC DOUBLE BIRD OF THE WEEK. Michigan, down 31-12 with two minutes or so left, runs a two-point conversion that features Jeremy Gallon taking an end around and throwing the ball to a wide open dude for the score.

First of all, you gave up already. Screw you and your two point conversion. Second, every Ohio State fan on twitter instantly said something along the lines of "oh wow that totally would have worked against us." I don't think it's possible to be more disgusted with a successful two point conversion.

[AFTER THE JUMP: stuff.]

Offense

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Welp. There's not much you can do when your QB is a freshman who is liable to put the ball in a defender's chest twice consecutively when you finally do have to open things up far, far too late and your tailbacks rush eight times for 16 yards. Borges did the things he could do, implementing a screen and edge-rush attack that saw Michigan mount actual drives on their first two possessions.

Unfortunately, you can only run constraints for so long before they start getting obliterated, and once the scripted fancy new stuff was over so was the offense. The game was over once Michigan could not punch the ball in on either of their first two possessions and then punted once; down 21-6 without a prayer of a non-gimmicky offense, it was over. Gameplan took Michigan their first 120 yards, and then they had no more. On an individual game level, you can't expect much more from your offensive coordinator.

That Michigan went into this bowl game utterly convinced they could not run the ball conventionally against a not particularly good run defense is a huge failing that you can spread out to at least three different people: Rodriguez, Funk, and Borges. Rodriguez for the roster, Funk for being the position coach, and Borges for treating this rag-tag assemblage of walk-ons and freshmen like they're the Denver Broncos and expecting they could handle every run concept ever expressed by man as they were being bounced around like gas molecules.

Statistical complaint #341. It's inane that those touch passes forward that are essentially handoffs get filed as passes. Jeremy Gallon's probably happy that is the case since without those he probably does not pass Braylon Edwards for the single-season receiving record; everybody else should be shaking their fist at the NCAA scorer in the sky in a futile attempt to get stats that make sense. Scorers should be able to judge whether a play is a run or pass and credit accordingly.

One step forward, one step back. Michigan's approach to this game was mentioned above, but to reiterate: despite being forced to start a freshman quarterback Michigan assumed they were totally incapable of moving the ball on the ground. And they were.

I have no idea how this line improves enough next year for Michigan to be able to do anything after losing both tackles, who are going to be on NFL rosters next year. They can be better, but like the radioactive situation Rodriguez walked into the reclamation project here is a two-year job. (Yes, thanks in large part to Rodriguez.) Next year's line has no seniors and one junior.

God willing, Michigan goes into spring practice focused on getting this unit competent at one base running play instead of three and does not try a blizzard of different combinations during the season. That might be enough to make their running game bad. Anything more is in the realm of the fantastical.

Morris eval. Could have been worse. Hosing hoser hoses, which mitigates some freshman issues since he can rifle the ball late and not get punished because the thing gets there so fast. Has accuracy issues caused by firing every ball a hundred miles an hour and predictably put two balls in K-State defenders' chests late when Michigan was forced to try to go downfield; overall an encouraging debut. Morris's wheels are a surprising asset, as well. He is not Gardner; neither is he Navarre. He could be a Connor Shaw type QB who takes the occasional carry to mess with defenses. (Hypothetically.)

QB controversy? No. The training wheels were obvious and once taken off the punishment was immediate. Given what we've heard about practice he has Gardner's INT issues except worse, and as long as both guys improve at the same rate Gardner will still be well ahead.

Defense

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That was a total disaster. The season as a whole was a macrocosm of the defense in each game: pretty good for most of it, gives up one WTF touchdown midway through (Indiana), and then collapses in a heap at the end. Kansas State has an underrated offense but even so, this drive chart…

  1. 75 yard TD
  2. 60 yard TD
  3. 59 yard TD
  4. 59 yard FG miss
  5. 33 yard drive ending in fumble one play after Tyler Lockett dropped a touchdown
  6. 60 yard FG drive
  7. 39 yards, punt
  8. 7 yard TD drive
  9. EOG

…is a total and comprehensive failure. Michigan did not force a punt until there were 7 minutes left in the game and things were over. This follows a game in which Michigan gave up 393 rushing yards to OSU.

Now instead of having one solid unit that can expect to take another step forward as they age, Michigan has question marks everywhere. Mattison's reputation as salvager and hero took enormous hits over these last two games. Hooray.

Exposed. Tyler Lockett is an incredible player who was checked by essentially nobody this year; it seems like KSU decided they were going with Waters late mostly because he takes best advantage of a guy who is probably the best WR in the country. Any ideas that Blake Countess is in that league as a defensive back are now bleeding out in the gutter after Lockett ghosted in and out of Michigan's defensive backfield all night, knives at the ready.

While Raymon Taylor struggled equally, Taylor had been targeted all year and we had some grasp of how good he was already: decent, but not Lockett good. Countess had largely been avoided and made a lot of interceptions when not avoided; this was a comedown in hype and expectation level on par with that Mattison suffered.

Spread and shred. The most brutal event of the night was K-State busting a fullback up the seam for 40 yards on a version of QB Oh Noes that put Desmond Morgan in a bind: defend the QB draw or cover the fullback. With Waters not a huge threat on the ground, the answer was "cover the fullback fergodsakes"; either way the Wildcats were about to get a good chunk of yards. Morgan acted like it was a run and Kansas State was on their way to their third touchdown.

In the aftermath…

…that was my exact thought, too. K-State just looked hard to defend in ways that Michigan is not. A lot of people were griping about Michigan's decision not to double Lockett, but when you're going up against a defense that uses the QB's legs in a way that demands attention you find yourself with limited options unless you can win certain one on one battles. Michigan could not, and as in the Ohio State game once that was the case it was over. There is no hiding weak spots against these spread to run attacks, and against Tyler Lockett every member of the secondary is a weak spot.

About that line. Dominated again. Zero pass rush and after some nice stops on the first drive, K-State had a quality day on the ground. Michigan spent much of the day stunting defensive ends into double teams, and those ended up with Clark and Ojemudia and Beyer on their back as dudes darted by.

I will never understand the insane deployment of Quinton Washington this year; we're now deep into Announce Everyone Was Injured All Year time and there hasn't been a peep about Washington, who was a quality starter all last year and spent most of this one on the bench. Without him and Pipkins, this outfit was just too light to hope to hold up. Other than Willie Henry, who is a freshman who needs some technique work badly, the rest of the line is Black, Beyer, and Clark: defensive ends all.

Things should get better next year, at least, with great piles of returning players and Pipkins hopefully coming back from his ACL tear. Much rests on him. I mean, much rests on him for a team that projects to finish third in their division.

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Inside The Boxscore:

* Spielman said something about how he asked Mattison who his best defender was this year, and the first thing out of Mattison's mouth was "Frank Clark." Against Ohio State, Frank Clark had one tackle. Against Kansas State, Frank Clark had one tackle. When your best defender is averaging 1 tackle per game in his last two, something is wrong.

* As Ace pointed out, our two leading rushers were our QB and Tight End. Our running backs should be made to watch how K-State's little Hubert ran. I get it that the offensive line generated zero push, but eventually someone has to break a tackle or make someone miss. Our 4 RBs combined for 8 carries and 13 yards. Our offense was slightly better in not giving up so many TFLs, but that's because we rarely had the ball. K-State had 5 TFLs for a total of 13 yards lost. Hey, I'm looking for positives, no matter how small.

Best And Worst:

Worst:  The Coordinators

I’ll admit to being a bigger fan of Greg Mattison than Al Borges, so up front I want to make it clear that Al Borges called a pretty good first half of football and Mattison seemed absolutely lost in stopping a team whose passing offense was “throw to #16” and “throw to guy wide open in the middle of the field.”  Borges has no functional running game, in part, because nobody seems able to block defenders, and so he went about trying ever-ludicrous methods to move the ball on the ground and the air without putting too much pressure on Shane Morris.  These were all plays fans have seen before, but he wove in screens, end-arounds, sweeps, and easy middle-distance throws into a coherent gameplan that let UM move the ball pretty effectively on their first couple of drives.  At the very least, he came out punching despite having one hand behind his back, and for that he deserves kudos.  And in particular during that first foray into the redzone, a PI on either of Morris’s two passes to Gallon and Funchess probably would have allowed UM to score a TD and kept the game closer.  The fact the offense sputtered in the 2nd half isn’t that surprising, as WR runs and delayed screens only work so often when your base offense is churning up less than a yard a carry and your WRs are being blanketed when they aren’t dropping passes from your amped-up QB.  Borges has shown an ability to adapt somewhat these past couple of games, and next year it is going to need to be flexible because I have a hard time believing it will suddenly start running the ball under center for 4 ypc while airing the ball out with aplomb.

On the other side of the ball, this “bending” defense clearly broke in the first half, as KSU had no trouble moving up and down the field despite holding penalties putting them in some poor down-and-distances.  Taylor and Countess couldn’t keep Lockett even remotely contained, and it seemed virtually impossible for the team to bring pressure while also maintain their assignments, leading to long conversions after acres of open field just appeared.  The defense tightened up somewhat in the 2nd half, but this defense needs to make a massive step forward next year for this team to improve on their record, and it’s now been two games in a row where the defense seems flat-footed and ill-prepared against good offenses.  That needs to change, and given the youth out there (Gedeon, Thomas, and Henry seemed to get significant run) along with some improving older players like Clark and a healthy Ryan, I expect that to happen.

bronxblue brings up the 2013 == death meme, and takes issue with it since the basketball team did make the NCAA final. I would like to point out that my particular version of 2013 == death is based on the Old Yeller premise, in which our once-loved dog contracts rabies, and is therefore 100% accurate except in this version of Old Yeller the dog is a cyborg with shotgun arms and continues blasting us long after our corpse has cooled.

Comments

bronxblue

December 30th, 2013 at 12:40 PM ^

I also don't think this team was scarred as much by the spread offense as it was scarred by the losses.  Had the tables been turned and RR stepped in for Hoke after three disappointing years, I think the fanbase would be more accepting and patient.  Most fans don't treat the spread as a "jokey" offense, just trolls and radio hosts who need to fill hours in a day.  Ask most people on this blog, and they'll say it works when implemented properly.  If they don't, they're either idiots/radio hosts, in which case enjoy your Free Press Sports section, Sporting News, Crystal Pepsi, and everything else that was relevant in the early 90s.  

UM and RR were a bad mix both in terms of culture as well as time, and maybe it will take another couple of years for them to find their way back to the light.  I agree that the ghost of Bo hangs like an albatros, but worse it has become a mythical figure that turned a pretty good coach into a god who won multiple MNCs and redefined football.  UM has been chasing this phantom for 20+ years now, and it continues to bite them in the ass.  But the luxury seats keep getting sold, Beyonce still warbles on a video screen, and nobody is really complaining that loudly about Hoke and his staff.

When I spoke off the death to 2013 meme, I will admit that the Old Yeller reference was far from my memory.  It is true the year ended poorly, but even with the residual teabagging that run was so magical it is very difficult to lose that luster.

blusage

December 30th, 2013 at 12:52 PM ^

RR and UM were a bad mix because Carr was still around to undermine RR anyway he could. RR was never given a chance. Even then, after three years, he ended up with the same record Hoke has now. The difference? RR was trending up and Hoke is trending down.

The whole Michigan Man crap was probably thought up by Carr to further gum up the works for RR.

As for Hoke, even the first bowl game he won, the team didn't look so well-coached. He's in over his head. If the team can't play as a "family" it's on him. Afterall, what else is he there for? He doesn't coach the offense, doesn't coach the defense.

Mack Brown is available.

mgobaran

December 30th, 2013 at 1:11 PM ^

I know the "spread is a gimmick" thing is so overplayed. RR would have worked here if he could have just stayed away from the "spread defense." 

A strong defense would have shut up everyone complaining that the spread was gimmicky. It sucks it didn't happen. But the whole fanbase needs to move on. A strong pro-style offense mixed with a strong defense can still work (see Alabama, Stanford) in modern day college football, but we just aren't getting it done. The coaches aren't executing. 

IMO the formation packages you run doesn't have nearly as big of an impact as talent, coaching, depth, and proper execution. You need consistency in a program to align all of those. So switching everything around again for the sake of it isn't going to help matters. Not saying you can't change coaches. But a radical scheme change isn't the answer. 

 

 

Ziff72

December 30th, 2013 at 12:42 PM ^

I'm the guy lost in a cave on a remote island in the Phillipines in 1949 thinking the war is still going on.  Every time this is brought up, I feel the need to say.

Freep, Jake Fischer, Pace's legs etc....

The lack of depth on the oline is a problem that mounted on RR's watch but it's not like he didn't understand the need for a good oline.   

RockinLoud

December 30th, 2013 at 12:42 PM ^

This is what kills me and causes a weird paradox in me. I was under the impression Michigan was about winning and doing it with class "the right way". Apparently it's about upholding a style of outdated play and underacheiving for your talent level, then winning. I've rooted for UM all my life and I always will, but this seeming mindset from the powers that be that UM football has to be some "pro-style" Lloyd Carr team with a coach from his tree instead of just going out and getting the best possible coaches makes it almost painful to be a fan. So here I am, torn, rooting for my team with everything, hoping for the best, but feeling like something is just wrong and there's no hope for the future because of some narrow idea of what "Michigan" football is supposed to be. Emotions, they aren't sure what they should be right now.

Space Coyote

December 30th, 2013 at 12:54 PM ^

So something that's tried and tested and proven to work can't work? A spread is what's needed to fix the teams problems?

The "pro-style" idea that Hoke and co came into the program with was as much an act to patch together the fanbase as the rest of the stuff. People need to get beyond it. Is this a spread-to-run offense and will it ever be under this staff? No. But just because it's something different doesn't mean it's uses dinosaur schemes. Many of the passing concepts Borges implements, many of the run concepts Borges implements, many of the blitz schemes Mattison implements, etc, are at least iteratives of newer ideas that have their roots in classic schemes.

Just because they don't do all the new things (because no team does all the new things) doesn't mean they are behind the times. The schemes aren't the issue.

RockinLoud

December 30th, 2013 at 1:02 PM ^

Sorry, I wasn't really clear. I'm fine with whatever offensive scheme as long as it works. I was more refering to the idea that "it has to be THIS scheme" at Michigan and be done by someone from the Bo/Lloyd tree. More just general frustration at the state of things than anything else.

HermosaBlue

December 30th, 2013 at 2:52 PM ^

It is not a coincidence that the best coaches in M history were outsiders:

- Yost (a West Virginia vagabond who coached all over before finding a home in Ann Arbor)

- Crisler (from Princeton, with winged helmets)

- Schembechler (from OSU by way of Miami (NTM))

Each of them brought new blood and new life to the school, and the first two were exceptional innovators.  Each of them was followed by a slew of assistants that exemplified the "each copy of a copy loses fidelity and isn't as good as the original" truism.

RR is the only new blood that the host rejected.  At the time of his hiring I was supportive, because I felt we'd been inbreeding for 40 years, and we needed something new in the gene pool.  I was wrong about RR, but not wrong about the need for new blood.

After 3 years of Hoke, I still feel that way.

 

big john lives on 67

December 30th, 2013 at 4:36 PM ^

I truly believe that we need a 'Michigan Man to coach Michigan."

However, your post points directly to where the problem is.  40 years of inbreeding has caused us to forget what the true meaning of being a Michigan Man really is.

It is not three degrees of separation minumum to somebody in the program, nor having coached or played at Michigan in the past.

It is a coach who is honest, honorable, cares about the players, follows the rules, innovative, and one of the top in his field.

It is the same definition for football coach as any other position in this great university.  That is always why it has been so great.

 

HermosaBlue

December 30th, 2013 at 5:39 PM ^

Quote from his retirement speech:

“My heart is so full at this moment, I fear I could say little else.  But do let me reiterate the Spirit of Michigan. It is based on a deathless loyalty to Michigan and all her ways.  An enthusiasm that makes it second nature for Michigan Men to spread the gospel of their university to the world’s distant outposts.  And a conviction that nowhere, is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours.” 

Yost's Michigan Man was loyal, enthusiastic, and committed.  Nowhere does he say one must have gone to Michigan, nor previously worked there.  One must simply believe in, and comport oneself in accordance with the ideals the University espouses.

As you rightly pointed out: honest, honorable, ethical, innovative and a leader in the field.  In other words, a Michigan Man always aspires to be among the Leaders and Best.

I also don't think a Michigan Man believes that success is his birthright, or that it's due him simply because This is Michigan, Fergodsakes.  This is Michigan, Fergodsakes, because we constantly pursue and expect excellence, and we do all we can (within the rules) to achieve it.

I worked in investment banking for a number of years, and the bank I worked for loved Michigan grads.  The head of MBA recruiting once described Michigan grads as "Ivy League skills and confidence, midwestern work ethic and (lack of) ego."  

I think that's about right.

 

icefins26

December 30th, 2013 at 12:42 PM ^

No ripping on Borges calling rollouts to the right when Morris is a lefty?  Bugged the shit out of me.  That's elementary stuff that I make sure I do when I'm playing Madden.

Also, on that note, the 3rd down option TO THE RIGHT, making Morris do a jump pass and get a helmet in the chest?  Great call.

maize-blue

December 30th, 2013 at 12:43 PM ^

A local morning radio show host (former NFL LB, Ray Bentley) said something along the lines that it's possible Hoke may be a little soft on his players and that he "fell in love with his players" and maybe it's hard for him to kick some ass when needed and hold people over the coals (paraphrasing and mostly my words).

RockinLoud

December 30th, 2013 at 12:52 PM ^

God I was hoping this wouldn't be true, and after 2011 I had assumed it was not. However now, I'm thinking this (which is what I also thought initially) is showing itself to be the case. I hope Hoke still somehow proves it wrong, but I'm doubting he's the man for the job more than I have since his initial hiring announcment.

FreddieMercuryHayes

December 30th, 2013 at 12:57 PM ^

I'm in the exact same boat. That 2011 season out did all reasonable expectations, and coupled with the great recruiting, I had high hopes. But at this point, none of the promises seem to be actually delivered upon. I find it very ironic that Hoke came in promising toughness, and initially looking like it, only to see this team degrade into one just as soft as the end of the RR years.

ehatch

December 30th, 2013 at 12:51 PM ^

I agree on the Shane Morris assessment.  Throws really hard, needs to learn a little touch.  I thought he showed a lot of promise but is still significantly behind Gardner.  

Not sure I agree on the Offensive philosophy.  I'd say the Hoke ideal is similar to Stanford/MSU/Alabama.  Stanford and MSU are in the Rose Bowl.  Alabama is 2-time defending champ with only 1 loss this year.  The problem is that we currently aren't good at trying to do that.  The bigger problem is that we don't look like we'll be good at it next year either.  

As mentioned, it is a forward pass because if it is dropped it is an incomplete pass.  Earlier in the bowl season, I watched them hand the ball off in that situation, they fumbled and turned the ball over.  

Ziff72

December 30th, 2013 at 1:10 PM ^

MSU and Stanford are there because of their defense.  Alabama can run a wing t with that talent.

 

I'm not quite a zealot but I see something that is interesting.  Alabama is generally regarded as the best best defense over the last 5 years.  They dominate teams.   Let's look at their losses the last few years. 

Auburn twice-  Malzhan Spread

Texas A&M - Sumlin Spread

LSU- 9-6.  Not exaclty an offensive showcase. 

 

The spread creates a numbers advantage.  It simply gives the offense an advantage.  It's not a gimmick.  These guys basically solved the 70's and 80's dilemma that wishbone and option teams had.  They had a numerical advantage in the run game but struggled passing.  This created a problem against top notch defensive lines(Miami, FSU etc..)  The athletic QB has got better with passing making these type of teams even more dangerous.   The same is still true though.  The only way to stop a spread on a consistent basis is have 3-4 monsters on the dline that can beat blocks and blow up the run game by themselves freeing the DB's to sit back and play the pass.  If you can't stop the run with 6 in the box your basically gambling every play.

Spunky

December 30th, 2013 at 12:57 PM ^

I was disappointed Norfleet wasn't used more on offense after he got the nine yards, but I see that he injured his toe and is on crutches, too. (Link)

Thankfully, 2013 will be over soon.

Maaly

December 30th, 2013 at 12:58 PM ^

I feel so bad that I skipped the Breaking Bad marathon to watch this game. The whole staff needs to be evaluated from top to bottom during the offseason.

This team played no different than they did during (insert week here). Mattison, Hoke & Mallory  need to fix the defense asap. I believe that the frustration has now fully trickled down to the players at this point. The coaches don't really know how to fix the situation and now the players may not be believeing in what the coaches are trying to teach them. Outside of a few players on defense who made minimal improvements this season, the fact that nobody emerged a. la Jake Ryan is concerning. 

Al Borges i just plain don't like this guy. Is it me or does it seem like we run the same plays over and over and use 10 different formations to execute(sometimes) them? It's the things like running reverses or stretch plays to the short side of the field that kill me too. I realize he's been handicapped by the offensive line but he needs to go. It is clear that Denard masked all the problems on the offensive side of the ball which Borges and Hoke got credit for, they can surely take the blame now.

Moving forward I feel as though no fan knows what will come of this team next year. We all expect to see improvement across the board but we expected improvement all season as well. Hoke is a great recruiter but I'm not so sure that will be the case moving forward if the team performs poorly. He can pitch the "This is Michigan " spiel but eventually recruits will ask "what exactly do you guys do here".

UMMAN83

December 30th, 2013 at 1:00 PM ^

The lack of emotion starting with the coaching staff is most concerning.  This looks to have translated into lack of emotion by the players on the field.  That being said, I've had my few days of being frustrated.  I'm moving on. 

Year 4 is very critical.  This year team was still mix of spread and young pro style players (e.g.1st full season QB Gardner).  Again, next year is key.  We need to see growth by the young players.

The worse thing the alumni, fanbase, former players etc. can do is to become fragmented again like with RRs' program.  I'm sure our competition loves hearing the conflict AGAIN and uses it against us to fracture the program further(e.g. local media).  We need to stay positive and united for now.  It is frustrating.  It is difficult to have programs with VERY little success over the past 40 years stick it in our face.  However, the worse response is to jump ship or contribute to the current situation.  Be part of the solution.

JeepinBen

December 30th, 2013 at 1:06 PM ^

I don't think that based on our current personnel a total spread-and-shread would be our best offense, but damn people who call the spread a gimmick. 15 screens and end arounds? This "pro-style" that we're running now is a gimmick offense.

King Douche Ornery

December 30th, 2013 at 1:09 PM ^

I think I can sum up what Brian has said:

Michigan has fallen into The Abyss. There is no way out; it might be a decade-long fall.

Nothing matters right now. The identity is gone. It has happened to all of Them. Bear Bryant dies. John McCay and John Robinson move on. Barry Switzer gets in a hot tub with his ex-wife and her lover, and the players bring Ooozies onto campus. Tom Osborne's heart can finally take no more kicked balls against Missouri. Mack Brown loses one too many coordinators and actually has to coach.

It happens. The Great Ones either bask in a land of unending talent and resources, with no competition (Ohio State), or they become Everyone Else and fall off the map for awhile until they find the next transcendant personality. Michigan suffered this fate before, when Fritz Crisler left, until BO came along.

There are no answers, and they are certainly not in Brady Hoax or Dave Brandon.

massblue

December 30th, 2013 at 1:08 PM ^

With the exception of kicking, no aspect of this team stands out.  Can the entire staff be so average?  

You have a team like Indiana and at least they have a good passing offense.  Minn has a good running game.  We are more like Purdue and Illinois.  We suck in every aspect.  If Hoke and company were coaching players as talented as those at Purdue, Illinois, Minn, and NW, they would be lucky to win 4 games.

 

 

CriticalFan

December 30th, 2013 at 6:51 PM ^

Maybe a diary post this off-season.

There are certainly players on those teams with more hype than players than ours. Ra'shede Hageman, Venric Mark, etc.

If people with a B1G overview (not one team viewpoint) filled out a roster, would a majority be ours or theirs?

I'd take their TFL totals instead of ours. ANY of those teams.

StormJH1

December 30th, 2013 at 1:26 PM ^

This blog post was spot on, and it wasn't until I started reading here and listening to the podcast that heard any other actual Michigan fans speak truth to what I was actually seeing on my television.  This program, even worse than Notre Dame, is so obsessed with its own past that they protect it in the face of all reason.  This idea that Michigan is a "pro"-style football team needs to die.  Yesterday.  We have a CEO coach flanked by washed-up NFL coordinators and all of them are intent on forcing a particular type of football that should work because it used to work.  

Michigan fans like my father love Brady Hoke because he's a "Michigan Man"  and he "looks like a football coach".  But I'm struggling to find one trademark of this team implemented since Hoke too over that's an actual ASSET now and going forward.  Denard Robinson and the read option were from RichRod.  And there's no way Denard Robinson ever plays quarterback here UNLESS you blow up the roster, and Ryan Mallet leaves the team, and we suffer through a year of Sheridan/Threet.  

I'm not even sure how much you can rip Brady for "Manball" because he doesn't have any particular style or philosophy that his to which this team is actually committed.  They had a month to prepare with Morris - the traditional "pro-style" QB Michigan fans were begging for - and what did they do?  Eight tailback carries and screen pass after screen pass?  End arounds to Devin Funchess, instead of Gallon or Norfleet?

I have no clue what Brady Hoke actually does on this staff, but if he has any role, I would think it would be to evaluate his roster and shape the gameplan to what we are actually good at.  As for the defense, I can't even begin to address what's going on there.

HollywoodHokeHogan

December 30th, 2013 at 1:28 PM ^

       but the whole "wrong side of history" idea is really just a forced narrative.  The spread is not new; it is not a gimmick; it is not a pancea.  Teams can succeed with or without it and teams can fail with or without it.  It's also such a nebulous term that it's almost without meaning.  So the Eagles run a spread, but what about the most successful offense in NFL history?  Do the Broncos run a spread?  If they do it looks a hell of a lot different from RR's spread and Chip Kelley's spread.  (FWIW, the Eagles mighty spread didn't look all that great against the worst defense in the NFL last night).  Is the triple option a spread offense?  What about Spurrier's 4-Verts-focused approach?

If you have the right players and the right coaching you can make an offense that is largely I-form run-centric work.  It's not clear that we have either.   It's also not clear that I-form-run is Borges preferred approach.  I still think he's more Cam Cameron than Wisconsin fan.  He might be an awful OC, but it's not because he's on the wrong side of history.  There are plenty of reasons for failure; there is no need to impose a strained global explanation based on the tides of history.

 

 

Space Coyote

December 30th, 2013 at 1:40 PM ^

To top it off, I think there's a goal to stick everything into a few groups: pro-style, spread, triple-option.

Well, that really doesn't work. There are very different types of "pro-style" offenses, there are very different types of "spread" offense, there are very different types of "triple-option" offenses. That's a way to put them in groups, but they all share from one another, they all overlap, and really just grouping them in such a way leads to a worse understanding of what is really going on.

MI Expat NY

December 30th, 2013 at 2:01 PM ^

I would consider GT and for that matter, Stanford, to be contrarian schemes.  They work because defenses prep for other offensive systems 95% of the time and look for defensive personnel to stop offensive schemes they see week-in and week-out.  If a large enough group of teams followed GT or Stanford's lead, the uniqueness factor would be lost and the schemes would become less effective.  

dryadams

December 30th, 2013 at 1:43 PM ^

before you neg away, my first Michigan memory was The Game back in 1969. i've loved them ever since. graduated from there In 1982. that makes me old enough to be your mother, so please play nice. that being said...... Brady Hoke is not the answer. The notion that only a "Michigan Man" can coach the Michigan team needs to be buried. There was only one Bo. There will never be another. The fan base that drinks this kool aid needs to realize this so the program can move on. The "Michigan Man" myth is prehistoric at best. Football has evolved since Bo's last game in 1989. We must evolve as well, or we run the risk of never being relevant again. I cannot stomach anymore Saturdays in the fall that has us putting an inferior product on the field. We can't compete. We no longer are feared. We are weak. We have become the dinosaur. Give me a coach who has the qualities of integrety, leadership, and respect. Someone who can come to understand what Michigan football means and can embrace it. This does not mean that the coach has to be a Michigan Man born and raised from the Bo tree. It has to be someone out of the fold. Do I know where to look for such a man? Oh hell no, but it should not be impossible to do. Don Canham did it in 1969. Surely it can be done again.

dryadams

December 30th, 2013 at 3:56 PM ^

respect from the players. from the recent comments of two of them, some of the players apparently were going through the motions just to get it over with. i want a team that will run through a wall for their coaches. in 2011, i think they did. In 2013, they didn't. and that comes from a lack of respect for the coaches, imo.

swoosh

December 30th, 2013 at 1:49 PM ^

My biggest suprise was Shane's mom, she is pretty hot:)

I thought it was his sister at first.  Shane did well, my question is this, where was Green?

KSmooth

December 30th, 2013 at 1:55 PM ^

I really don't want to see Hoke let go, but those quotes from Clark and Ross bring us to a point where one can make a case for bringing in a new coach -- an argument that passes the giggle test at least.

At the end of "Three and Out", John Bacon describes a team that had given up when the time came for it to play the Gator Bowl against Mississippi State. As Bacon described it, the team subconsciously wanted Rich Rodriguez gone, and understood that a severe enough loss in the bowl game would ensure his departure. So when the Bulldogs jumped ahead early, they checked out emotionally. Rodriguez had "lost the team", and at that point he had to go.

Now one emotionally flat game is not necessarily the same thing as losing the team. That 2010 team had just gone through the whole wierd "You Lift Me Up" thing which had an especially bad effect on morale. But those quotes -- "we weren't totally into it", "we lost the will to play" -- have to be troubling.

Players need to have confidence in their coaches. They need to know that they are being taught the things they need to succeed on the field, and they need to believe that the gameplans give them a fair chance to win. If the players no longer believe that, they just won't deliver the intensity of effort needed to win. That confidence may waver at times, but when too many players just mentally give up on the coach, and it becomes permanent, that coach has to go.

Is that happening again? In my (admittedly very amateur) opinion I don't think so and we probably aren't even all that close. But this is something Brandon needs to keep a watchful eye on, even if that means taking time away from his beloved marketing schemes.

PurpleStuff

December 30th, 2013 at 2:23 PM ^

Despite all the armchair quarterbacks who think a team could/should improve because of all the extra practice and that bowl games indicate the trajectory of a program, the fact is the result and even how it looked don't matter going forward.

That 2011 Gator Bowl loss was followed by an 11-2 season, because the bowl game is a reflection of one particular team, not a window into the future.  I brought the point up then when everyone was convinced we'd be doomed forever if RR stayed, and it is just as true now.  Nick Saban's first season at Alabama ended with a 6 point win over the Dan Hawkins coached CU Buffaloes to get to 7-6.  10-3 is his worst season in the six years since.  Pete Carroll lost 10-6 to Utah in the Las Vegas Bowl to finish 6-6, then rattled off 7 straight seasons of 11 or more wins.  Bob Stoops lost to Ole Miss in the Independence Bowl to finish 7-5 before winning a national title in year two and reeling in 10+ wins in 12 of the next 14 seasons.  Jim Harbaugh lost to one of those few awful OU teams (7-5 in the regular season) in the Sun Bowl a year before Stanford rattled off 4 straight (and counting) BCS bowl appearances).  Mark Richt dropped his first bowl game to 4-loss Boston College in the Music City Bowl, then went to the SEC title game 3 of the next 4 years and won it twice.  Jim Tressel lost to Lou Holtz in the Outback Bowl to finish his first season at 7-5, then won a national title in year two and went to 8 BCS bowls in 9 years, winning 5 of them.

I personally don't think Brady Hoke is like those guys, but whether he is or he isn't, the results of the 2013 Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl have nothing to do with the answer.

Lionsfan

December 30th, 2013 at 4:33 PM ^

Exactly, bowls are just excuses to get outta dodge for a few days, and play a team you don't normally play in a meaningless game. The playoffs/BCS have pretty much stopped any meaning they might have had.

Just look at last year. If you had sampled the posts from the blog post-Outback Bowl, most people would be pretty optimistic about our offense going forward.

If the time comes for Brady Hoke to be fired, then it's going to be because we played .500 football for 3 years, or because he had a horrible record against our rivals, or he killed a guy with a trident. Not because we came out flat and lost the 2013 Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl

CompleteLunacy

December 30th, 2013 at 1:57 PM ^

KSU is likely better than their 8-5 record indicates. I heard the TV guys saying this was their 7th game in a row with 30+ points. Well, no wonder they went 6-1 over that stretch. Pretty damn good for a team that is in no hurry to score on any given drive.

It doesn't change the shittiness of it all...but two teams played each other with identical records and polar opposite in-year trajectories. It's no wonder that the one with the clear upward trajectory won. My real disappointment comes in the effort level of the team. It's kinda sad when Shane Morris is arguably your best performer out there (no offense to Shane, of course...he was a pleasant surprise).

This defense needs to learn how to get off the field on 3rd down next year. The offense needs to learn how to run the ball up the gut.