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|21 min 53 sec ago||Well you don't get a guy to||
Well you don't get a guy to "resign" on his own and walk away from millions simply because you don't like him.
|5 hours 35 min ago||Pistons have to overpay||
Pistons have to overpay though to get a star. And since overpaying with cap dollars isn't really an option anymore since everyone has cap money to spend....may as well get a good player this way.
|7 hours 33 min ago||It's still Alabama though.||
It's still Alabama though. Who they have as an OC is kinda irrelevant to their Death Star status. Saban is still going to want to run the same type of offense.
|10 hours 25 min ago||It's been so long since||
It's been so long since Michigan won a Big Ten title, I could give two shits about what happens after winning it.
|21 hours 19 min ago||Feel like I read somewhere in||
Feel like I read somewhere in one of Brian or Ace's updates that Onwenu is full time OL now.
|1 day 3 hours ago||He's 29-10 in the last three.||
He's 29-10 in the last three. Which....I guess you're upset about?
|1 day 20 hours ago||Cool. So expectations for||
Cool. So expectations for Gary were for him to be a garbage time backup role player, that we were excited to "look active" in game twelve and get some "almost sacks." Got it.
For what its worth, in the season preview Brian predicted him to be a starter with double digit TFLs, and 6 sacks. Basically what Christian Wilkins and Ed Oliver wound up doing in their freshman seasons.
I mean....you do get that this entire thread is about evaluating Gary's season and whether or not people thought he lived up to the high preseason expectations? Right??
|1 day 22 hours ago||Ed Oliver, Christian Wilkins,||
Ed Oliver, Christian Wilkins, A'Shawn Robinson
|1 day 22 hours ago||Not at all||
No. Didn't say that at all.
Oliver was THE star on a relatively untalented Houston line, and they played against AAC competition. Swap the two players and maybe Gary has the same type of season. Maybe not.
I DO know, however, that just about everyone here was expecting more than 1 sack, 5 TFL, and to be lauded for simply "looking active" (as you put it) in his last regular season game.
|1 day 22 hours ago||Tough to evaluate him. Did he||
Tough to evaluate him. Did he live up to my lofty expectations? No. I doubt anyone here thought he would finish with 1 sack and 5 TFL for the season. Or if I said, who will have a better year: Gary or Gedeon, and offered 100:1 odds on Gedeon would anyone have picked him over Gary? I thought he would be more impactful even on heavily talented line.
|1 day 22 hours ago||Yay!||
|2 days 6 hours ago||You need a dictionary lesson||
You need a dictionary lesson (and perhaps a common sense) lesson, my man. The full definition of mediocre is "of only moderate quality; not very good." Another is "of moderate, or low quality, value, ability, or performance." It DOES NOT mean of the lowest quality. Magnus' three catergories of good, mediocre, and bad are completely fine.
|2 days 6 hours ago||I didn't "just uses that"||
I didn't "just uses that" because I was on my phone and didn't have quick access to it. And you don't need fancy stats to show the big difference between Michigan's performance against non-winning (aka 6-6 or less) and winning teams. Those are all from cfbstats which is a quick an handy site.
|2 days 21 hours ago||Same||
I'm kinda concerned about next year for all of the recruiting related reasons you said -- they just don't have the quality, depth, or eperience to give you hope. But going into 2018 and beyond they should be fine.
|2 days 21 hours ago||BONUS FACTS||
Oh, and here's some more facts since you liked to cite the 45 against Colorado (14 of which belonged to the special teams).
Scoring offense vs:
FBS winning: 29.6 (36th nationally)
FBS Non-winning: 49.1 (6th nationally)
Basically, Michigan played a lot of bad teams this season and beat the hell out of them. And in their five games against teams with a winning record, they went 3-2. Mostly because they couldn't run the ball when they needed to.
|2 days 21 hours ago||Here||
Like you said elsewhere, in the Big Ten Michigan was second overall in yards per carry at 4.98. But against FBS teams with a winning record, they were tied for 5th with Penn State at 3.83 ypc. The best rushing teams against FBS teams with a winning record were Ohio State (4.97), Wisconsin (4.3), Minnesota (4.05) and MSU (3.89). Most of Michigan's damage on the ground (5.72 ypc) was done in their 7 games against teams with a losing record.
Speaking of which, in the Big Ten only Indiana played more teams with a non-winning record than Michigan did this season. So for all of those times you though, hey, Michigan can't do anything offensively against this semi-decent team, that's why.
|2 days 21 hours ago||A lot of that was against||
A lot of that was against garbage teams, though. Michigan's split stats are 3.83 ypc and 12 TDs in their 5 (!!) games against teams with winning records and 5.72 ypc and 28 TDs in the 7 games against teams with losing records.
|3 days 2 hours ago||Hey, if some media outlet||
Hey, if some media outlet offered to make me a cool video to announce my commitment, I'd be all over that.
|4 days 4 min ago||I take it back. He had a||
I take it back. He had a pretty awesome all around season in all three phases of the game, and it's not his fault they kept calling dumb QB keepers for him. Sure they are better individual defenders out there, but none than can impact the return game like he can, and none that could do what can do on offense. Dumb plays calls, be damned.
|4 days 12 min ago||Good for Jabrill and it's||
Good for Jabrill and it's good PR and recruiting and all of that.....but it's a bit of a head scratcher that he's a Heisman finalist. Guess those 3 yards a carry really helped.
|4 days 33 min ago||So are Donnel Pumphrey's.||
So are Donnel Pumphrey's.
|4 days 22 hours ago||Man, if Cole leaves I'm||
Man, if Cole leaves I'm ratcheting expectations for next season down another notch. The OL was going to be dicey *with* him coming back. Without him? Yeesh.
|5 days 2 hours ago||The OL||
The OL is a big concern. It'll be filled with Cole, Hoke recruits that just never developed like Dawson, Kugler JBB, and REALLY young guys. Kinda sounds like a recipe for disaster.
|5 days 2 hours ago||Maybe||
Maybe. But I also think if we had a 1000 yard back on the roster, Harbaugh would have given him the ball more.
Either way you cut, Michigan's rushing output was pretty meh this year.
|5 days 3 hours ago||I think the frustration||
I think the frustration people may have had is tied to the fact that we know who we're losing on both sides of the ball, and because of Hoke's last two classes (if you don't remember how bad they were, go back and look) we don't have the players on the roster now to replace them. Harbaugh had a great class last year, and is putting together another great one, but you can't rely on true freshman and sophomores to take you very far.
So, people (myself included) can see the rebuild and step back ahead next season and its just a little frustrating because the success we all want was SO close this season and it'll be at least 2018 before we can get back to that level again.
|5 days 3 hours ago||They are average||
Look, I don't want to knock the guys on the team, but the entire WR corp is composed of 100% average Big Ten WRs. Darboh had the best year of the two of them, and while his 826 yards and 7 TDs are almost exactly the same as Curtis Samuel's production as a WR (Samuel also had 700 yds and 8 TDs as a rusher), it was also on par with WRs from Purdue, Indiana, Minnesota, and Michigan State. And if you can't guess who any of those four WRs are, then that should probably tell you about how good Darboh is within the Big Ten. He's just a guy. Love him as a Wolverine, but he's no better than what anyone else has.
|5 days 4 hours ago||I did forget just how good||
I did forget just how good Gallon was. Had a monster season in 2013 -- 89 rec., 1373 yards and 9 TDs. The yardage was 8th nationally.
|5 days 4 hours ago||For running backs, I'd saying||
For running backs, I'd saying anything over 1k yards was a pretty good back, and anything over 1300 yards was approaching elite. In the Big Ten this year there were 7 RBs with over 1k yards, and three over 1300. Mike Hart was the last Michigan RB to rush for over 1300 yards in 2007. We've had one RB go over 1000 yards since then (Toussaint in 2011).
One. That's abysmal for a program like Michigan.
For WRs, its a little harder but something like 1000 yards and 10 TD is probably a fairly safe elite benchmark. Manningham did that in 2007, Gallon had 1373 and 9 TDs in 2013, and that's been it.
|5 days 4 hours ago||Zero playmakers on offense||
The only playmaker Michigan has had on offense in like the last ten years has been Denard. No running backs, no WRs, nothing. Second best player is maybe Jake Butt.
Tired of seeing schools like Northwestern, PSU, Wisconsin, shit even Pitt, consistently have better skill players than Michigan.
|5 days 9 hours ago||They should both be in.||
They should both be in.