What is Trey Burke's NBA stock?
Question for the people that follow college hoops closer than I do... Given all of the glowing reviews and "best freshman PG in the country" type comments, what exactly is Trey Burke's NBA stock at the moment? And how concerned should we be that he might go pro at the end of the season? If he goes pro, what are the backup options at the point?
Panicked thinking perhaps…but I don’t think there were a lot of us that thought Darius Morris was going to leave early at this point last year either.
February 19th, 2012 at 8:10 PM ^
I doubt he leaves. At 5'11", he lacks the size of an NBA point guard. He'll eventually get a chance in the league and he could become an effective back-up PG but I don't see him turning down what could be a very special college career for an un-guaranteed contract.
February 19th, 2012 at 8:27 PM ^
He can't change being 5'11. If he wants to play in the NBA, his stock probably won't be higher than it is now, and it's often better to leave early so that scouts can still dream on you a bit (see, e.g., Jared Sullinger).
I don't think Burke should or will leave, but I can see the argument for him doing so.
February 19th, 2012 at 8:33 PM ^
So given the perhaps small (pun intended? Sure...) chance that he leaves, who plays PG for us next year?
February 19th, 2012 at 8:37 PM ^
Brundidge and Akunne would be the guys.
February 19th, 2012 at 8:44 PM ^
Thanks. And speaking of Brundidge, how come he hasn't played much this season? As our highest rated recruit last seson, I would have thought he would see the court more.
February 19th, 2012 at 9:02 PM ^
Trey Burke is mega awesome.
February 20th, 2012 at 10:46 AM ^
I think it has to do with his asthma condition?
February 19th, 2012 at 10:42 PM ^
Beilein has been talking with 2012 PG Amadeo Della Valle from Italy who is playing his first year of high school ball in the States right now, IIRC. He said UM is telling him they don't have a scholarship now, but could down the road.
I'm not saying Michigan would definitely get him, but Beilein has his eye on the situation and is preparing for every scenario.
February 19th, 2012 at 8:35 PM ^
The draft is loaded this year. He should be able to improve his position by just waiting this year out so all the talented sophomores are gone.
February 19th, 2012 at 8:39 PM ^
Forgot its a loaded draft this year. Probably the biggest thing working in our favor for keeping him around another year.
February 19th, 2012 at 8:44 PM ^
but not at PG. Best point guards are Kendall Marshall (who has a turnover problem), Teague (who has looked like the worst player on the floor for Kentucky every time I've watched them), and Lillard from Weber State.
I could see people telling Burke he would be one of the first point guards off the board.
February 19th, 2012 at 8:47 PM ^
February 19th, 2012 at 8:37 PM ^
"I don't see him turning down what could be a very special college career for an un-guaranteed contract."
People said the exact same thing about Morris.
February 19th, 2012 at 10:33 PM ^
but he doesn't have an elite athleticism that NBA team look for in a 1st rounder. He is likely a 3 year player than one and done anyway.
February 19th, 2012 at 8:13 PM ^
Not a Scout or someone who knows much about the NBA by any means, but my guess is there's very little chance he goes this year.
His Michigan bio only has him at 5'11, so his height is a huge issue. ESPN has him going in the second/undrafted on his NBA draft profile, so hopefully that means he stays.
At the beginning of the year I was much more worried aout Hardaway leaving. The one silver lining to his struggles this year is that his poor shooting will hopefully push him into staying another year to improve that.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft/results/players?id=19759&_slug_=tr…
February 19th, 2012 at 8:59 PM ^
Hmm... So Trey is as tall or taller than Nate Archibald, Calvin Murphy, Spud Webb, Avery Johnson, Tim Hardaway...
Height is a limitation, but not a crippling one if you exhibit outstanding talent. Burke has the potential.
February 19th, 2012 at 9:49 PM ^
That a few guys have succeeded at that size (in some cases decades ago) doesn't mean it isn't an issue.
February 19th, 2012 at 10:48 PM ^
As much as I like Trey, he doesn't belong on the list with Tiny, Calvin Murphy, & Tim Hardaway...Yet...
February 19th, 2012 at 10:36 PM ^
great athleticism except for Avery Johnson who is a heady player. Not to say Burke isn't a good athlete, but he doesn't have elite 1st step to compenstate his height. If Burke wants to be a 1st rounder, he's better off staying rather than leave after this season.
February 19th, 2012 at 8:19 PM ^
He'll stay for one more year at least.
February 19th, 2012 at 8:23 PM ^
Don't forget, the opposite of the reason that Darius Morris made the hop is now in effect this year. Several lottery picks stayed in school: Sullinger, Harrison Barnes, Perry Jones III at Baylor and now will be coming out this year so the draft class is very deep.
February 19th, 2012 at 8:23 PM ^
Darius Morris and Manny Harris may think otherwise, but Burke will probably stay due to his size like everyone else has said. And to think that of the lineup of Burke- Hardaway- Robinson- McGary- Morgan with Horford, Stauskas and Brundridge on the bench is truly scary.
February 19th, 2012 at 10:48 PM ^
You're really sleeping on him, huh.
February 19th, 2012 at 8:25 PM ^
February 19th, 2012 at 8:34 PM ^
Haha...doubt he needs me bringing it up for him to consider the possibility.
February 19th, 2012 at 10:07 PM ^
Wrong. Your thread will change everything. Thanks for blowing our chance at the final four next year, asshole.
February 19th, 2012 at 8:26 PM ^
He won't go. THe main thing holding him back is his height. He will need a few more years to truly develop his skills so that he can be a 1st rounder.
February 19th, 2012 at 8:26 PM ^
Draft Express has Burke as the 26th player taken in their 2013 mock draft.
February 19th, 2012 at 8:35 PM ^
His height is not that big of an issue because his arms are very long for his size. Very solid build with excellent speed and quickness. Has all the intangibles. Good Athlete. Can Shoot. Not to many flaws but he wont leave after this year, After sophmore year hes gone most likely.
February 19th, 2012 at 9:10 PM ^
Burke, like Sullinger is enjoying his time. Also, neither was raised to chase the NBA. Actually JJ, Jared's older brother did that and it didn't work out. They're both going to enjoy college; I actually wouldn't be totally shocked to see Jared come back for one last year.
I also think Burke may want a year to be "the man," right now it's Hardaway -- or at least going into the season it was. I just don't know if the time is right for him just yet.
Both Jared and Trey have good people around them. I mean they grew up with a coach, Satch (Jared's father) who is well connected in the basketball world. They know that it'll never be like this again. They're also disciplined guys. Satch sat Jared in a State Tournament Final for missing practice or something and they lost. They've had plenty of life lessons. They grew up with Jim Jackson's kid and Archie Griffin's kid...so they've been around people who've "been there." Neither of them is going to rush it.
February 19th, 2012 at 8:43 PM ^
go by the BTN or ESPN then we are screwed cause they talk him up like he is a lottery pick. I think he comes back but with Earnest Shazor, D- Morris, and Shante Orr I am never happy till I hear they are coming back. It takes only one family member or agent in his ear to make him think he is a sure first rounder.
February 19th, 2012 at 8:50 PM ^
heard any detailed scouting reports, but during the first MSU game there were several tweets from people like Sam Webb saying the NBA scouts were there to see one person: Trey Burke.
February 19th, 2012 at 9:05 PM ^
If Burke left he would not be drafted. He could use a couple of years to learn the position then he could be a decent pro.
February 19th, 2012 at 9:42 PM ^
What is your evidence for this assertion?
February 19th, 2012 at 10:32 PM ^
SImply put he is not the best scorer on his own team. That in and of itself will shy away most NBA squads from drafting him. He is and certainly will be the best player on his team at some point, but not this year. He is also very young and is not the most uber athletic prospect I have ever seen. Don't get me wrong I love his game and truly think he should and will eventually get drafted, but if he came out this year he would not be drafted. Most physically un-gifted (relatively speaking obviously) players raise their stock by staying in school and mastering their positions even moreso the specific position of PG, which is the most difficult to master.
February 19th, 2012 at 11:32 PM ^
Not the best scorer on his team? Seriously?? He's scoring 14.1 ppg to Hardaway's 14.3 ppg. A difference of 4 whole points on the season. And as the season has progressed, he has become Michigan's best scorer -- better than Hardaway. Get your facts straight.
February 19th, 2012 at 11:35 PM ^
I beileve that you just proved that my facts are straight...
February 19th, 2012 at 9:19 PM ^
I don't know if Burke is going or not but I have to think he is going to strongly consider. His skill level is already very good, I don't see it as a reason to stay. The kid is already more mature than Morris or Manny. Burke has already made himself into a really really good player, I honestly don't see him getting significantly better with another year of college ball.
Michigan's recent interest in the 2012 PG out of Nevada, makes me think Beilein is making contingency plans for Burke's possible departure. Just like Hoke offering all those OL's at the end of the recruiting period, was an indication that commitments from Garnett and Diamond were far from certain, Beilein's recent recruiting foray into the desert has raised some flags for me in regards to Burke's future plans.
February 19th, 2012 at 9:20 PM ^
His NBA stock is 0. No one's interested in him in the least. Nothing to see here, so move on.
Did you hear that, Trey? No NBA team is interested, so you better just get in the mindset that you're going to be at Michigan for the long haul. That's right, hunker down for 4 years in Maize n' Blue and don't bother even bother ever getting evaluated for any draft until you graduate.
Please?
February 20th, 2012 at 1:00 PM ^
You know that reminds me I think I just read that somewhere. The NBA actually wrote a note to Burke telling him that they have absolutely no interest in him until after his senior year and to not even try getting his evaluation.
Nothing to see here Trey just keep playing for Big Blue.
*Nervous Smile*
February 19th, 2012 at 9:39 PM ^
He's 5'11", that right there should tell you his NBA stock will never be THAT high unless he averages a triple-double. I've watched him live a few times this year and to be honest, it would be a bad idea for him to leave. He has a lot of areas that need refining. I'm not knocking him because he's obviously a great player. But, staying at UM for at least his sophomore and junior seasons would do him a load of good.
I highly doubt he leaves though, and I'll go as far as to say he'll be here all 4 years. If he did leave though, I could see him being drafted mid-second round.
February 19th, 2012 at 9:48 PM ^
Please provide me with evidence why it would automatically be a bad decision for him to leave.
Don't let your affinity for U-M sports distort your view. Individual athletes must weigh many factors -- not just loyalty to an academic institution like U-M -- as they decide what path to pursue in their athletic careers. We're fans; this is his life.
February 20th, 2012 at 11:35 AM ^
He's bad at the pick and roll, he's undersized for his position, he still has areas he could make better. Let me put it to you this way Manny Harris and Darius Morris both left early correct? Did either of them have a degree? How's their careers looking right now?
I'm not saying he can't be a player in the NBA later or even now, but it would do him wonders to work in his game a few more years in college. He's not the best player in the world, hate to break it to all you U of M fans. I love him, but that has nothing to do with me wanting him to stay. He's not perfect and I don't want to see him leave without a degree and in a year or two be wondering if he'll even stay on a team.
The NBA is FILLED with talented players, I think Trey would make it, but there's hundreds of guys for a few positions. It would do him good to work on his game in all aspects and just become an even better prospect. Those saying his stock will never be higher don't have a real clue. He's only a mid-2nd rounder at BEST. So you're saying he can't get better than that? I disagree! I think he could become a first rounder.
February 19th, 2012 at 9:44 PM ^
February 19th, 2012 at 10:20 PM ^
I hope he stays, but I can see him leave.
He has a lot of upside and it looks like some NBA teams like to pick younger players that they think they can coach up, so I can definitely see him leaving. That said, look at Manny Harris, and I hope he stays at least one more year and play with a better group of talent that will definitely help his stat sheet.
February 19th, 2012 at 10:23 PM ^
I don't think he'll enter the draft this year, but after his sophomore or junior year I think it becomes much more likely.
He is a bit undersized but that won't hold him back if he has the talent. That being said, I think at least another year of college to refine his skills would help his draft stock immensely. He is obviously a terrific player but he does have areas to work on, especially as point guard is a very difficult position to play at the next level and has a steep learning curve.
At times he over dribbles. At others he can try to force his way into the lane, basically committing himself, and consequently the play/possesion, to a one on one iso drive. When you combine the overdribbling and the forced penetration, he does sometimes get into the lane only to be caught without a good shot or anywhere to pass it. Finally, when he starts to feel it, he tends to drift farther and farther behind the three point line as he takes his shots and sometimes does so as soon as he has an opening and without setting up a play. In short, he is a freshman, an uber-talented one, but a freshman all the same.
February 19th, 2012 at 11:14 PM ^
February 19th, 2012 at 11:20 PM ^
Not sure when it was updated, but Chad Ford of espn.com has him as his 84th ranked prospect for the draft
February 20th, 2012 at 12:10 AM ^
Trey isn't half the ball distributor that I expect he will be next season when he better understands JB's offense. He has absolutely no reason to think about going pro, at his size, until he shows what kind of assist man he can be.
February 20th, 2012 at 10:47 AM ^
... my hate for the NBA will become complete.