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Had to do a depth chart,…

Had to do a depth chart, posted it the other day. Way off, I'm sure. Anyway, here you go - just for you. Old fashion threadjack.

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I don’t follow Michigan recruiting very much anymore, so the freshman are a complete guess (especially OL) - I basically just looked at the commit list on 247. I did keep in mind that you can play 4 games and still redshirt. 2 posts in 1 day - I'll always be blue at heart! But here you all go...take care.

 

QB:
1. Shea Patterson
2. Dylan McCaffrey
3. Joe Milton
rs: Cade McNamara
(I think Peters transfers - I know that's frowned upon)

 

RB:
1. Chris Evans (same number of carries as '18)
2. Tru Wilson / Zach Charbonnet (split Higdon’s carries)
4. Christian Turner (Wilson’s carries)

 

FB:
1. Ben Mason
2. Ben Vansumeren

 

WR:
1. Tarik Black
2. Ronnie Bell
3. Quintel Kent

 

WR:
1. Nico Collins
2. Cornelius Johnson

 

WR/SLOT:
1. Donovan Peoples-Jones
2. Oliver Martin
3. Jake McCurry / Giles Jackson
rs: George Johnson III

 

TE:
1. Zach Gentry/Sean McKeon
3. Nick Eubanks
4. Mustapha Muhammad
5. Luke Schoonmaker
rs: Erick All

 

LT:
1. Jalen Mayfield
2. John Runyan Jr.
3. Joel Honigford
4. Ryan Hayes
rs: Trevor Keegan

 

LG:
1. Ben Bredeson
2. Chuck Filiaga
3. Phillip Paea
rs: Karen Barnhart

 

C:
1. Cesar Ruiz
2. Stephen Spanellis
3. Nolan Rumler
rs: Zach Carpenter

 

RG:
1. Michael Onwenu
2. Stephen Spanellis
3. Nolan Rumler (will have to play RG in garbage time with Spanellis at C)
rs: Jack Stewart

 

RT:
1. John Runyan Jr.
2. Andrew Stueber
3. Joel Honigford
rs: Trente Jones

 

WDE:
1. Josh Uche
2. Luiji Vilain
3. Taylor Upshaw
rs: David Ojabo
rs: Gabe Newberg

 

NG:
1. Carlo Kemp
2. Donovan Jeter
3. Mazi Smith

 

DT:
1. Michael Dwumfour
2. Chris Hinton

 

SDE:
1. Kwity Paye
2. Aidan Hutchinson
3. Ron Johnson
4. Julius Welscof
rs: Mike Morris

 

WLB:
1. Devin Gil
2. Cameron McGrone

 

MLB:
1. Josh Ross
2. Jordan Anthony
3. Charles Thomas

 

VIPER:
1. Khaleke Hudson
2. Michael Barrett (unless he’s still playing offense, then take 1-2 of the true freshman)
3. Hassan Haskins / Anthony Solomon
rs: Joey Velazquez
rs: Amauri Pesek-Hickson

 

CB:
1. David Long (fingers crossed)
2. Ambry Thomas
3. Vincent Gray
4. Gemon Green
rs: DJ Turner
rs: Mike Sanstrill

 

CB:
1. Lavert Hill (fingers crossed)
2. Ambry Thomas
3. Myles Sims
4. Ben St.-Juste
rs: Jalen Perry

 

FS:
1. Daxton Hill/Jaylen Kelly-Powell
3. German Green
4. Sammy Faustin

 

SS:
1. Josh Metellus
2. Brad Hawkins
3. J’Marick Woods
rs: Quinten Johnson

He's not going to be working…

He's not going to be working a ton. He's going to be doing one of three things (or some combination of the three).

1. Fundraising and giving speeches to the same donors he used to give speeches to, make appearances with, etc. - hell Gary Williams is STILL at Maryland and he was fired forever ago. They'd make Meyer a liaison to football alums and try to get them to donate back to the school.

 

2. Assisting Gene Smith, only if he's delusional enough to think he's going to be an AD (stranger things have happened, i.e. Tressel, Jim) - which is basically an internship on how to be an Athletics Director, not an actual job.

 

3. Assistant AD for Football, Harbaugh had/has a similar position on his staff - can't remember the guy's name, but I believe he got a DUI and tried to step down, but JH kept him around (until he left a couple of years ago). This is more an adviser to the head football coach.

 

None of those are grueling positions.

I don’t follow Michigan…

I don’t follow Michigan recruiting very much anymore, so the freshman are a complete guess (especially OL) - I basically just looked at the commit list on 247. Remember that you can play 4 games and still redshirt. 2 posts in 1 day - I'll always be blue at heart! But here you all go...take care.

 

QB:
1. Shea Patterson
2. Dylan McCaffrey
3. Joe Milton
rs: Cade McNamara
(I think Peters transfers)

 

RB:
1. Chris Evans (same number of carries)
2. Tru Wilson / Zach Charbonnet (split Higdon’s carries)
4. Christian Turner (Wilson’s carries)

 

FB:
1. Ben Mason
2. Ben Vansumeren

 

WR:
1. Tarik Black
2. Ronnie Bell
3. Quintel Kent

 

WR:
1. Nico Collins
2. Cornelius Johnson

 

WR/SLOT:
1. Donovan Peoples-Jones
2. Oliver Martin
3. Jake McCurry / Giles Jackson
rs: George Johnson III

 

TE:
1. Zach Gentry/Sean McKeon
2. Nick Eubanks
3. Mustapha Muhammad
4. Luke Schoonmaker
rs: Erick All

 

LT:
1. Jalen Mayfield
2. John Runyan Jr.
3. Joel Honigford
4. Ryan Hayes
rs: Trevor Keegan

 

LG:
1. Ben Bredeson
2. Chuck Filiaga
3. Phillip Paea
rs: Karen Barnhart

 

C:
1. Cesar Ruiz
2. Stephen Spanellis
3. Nolan Rumler

 

RG:
1. Michael Onwenu
2. Stephen Spanellis
rs: Zach Carpenter

 

RT:
1. John Runyan Jr.
2. Andrew Stueber
3. Joel Honigford
rs: Trente Jones
rs: Jack Stewart

 

WDE:
1. Josh Uche
2. Luiji Vilain
3. Taylor Upshaw
rs: David Ojabo
rs: Gabe Newberg

 

NG:
1. Carlo Kemp
2. Donovan Jeter
3. Mazi Smith

 

DT:
1. Michael Dwumfour
2. Chris Hinton

 

SDE:
1. Kwity Paye
2. Aidan Hutchinson
3. Ron Johnson
4. Julius Welscof
rs: Mike Morris

 

WLB:
1. Devin Gil
2. Cameron McGrone

 

MLB:
1. Josh Ross
2. Jordan Anthony
3. Charles Thomas

 

VIPER:
1. Khaleke Hudson
2. Michael Barrett (unless he’s still playing offense, then take 1-2 of the true freshman)
3. Hassan Haskins
rs: Anthony Solomon
rs: Joey Velazquez
rs: Amauri Pesek-Hickson

 

CB:
1. David Long (fingers crossed)
2. Ambry Thomas
3. Vincent Gray
4. Gemon Green
rs: DJ Turner
rs: Mike Sanstrill

 

CB:
1. Lavert Hill (fingers crossed)
2. Ambry Thomas
3. Myles Sims
4. Ben St.-Juste
rs: Jalen Perry

 

FS:
1. Daxton Hill/Jaylen Kelly-Powell
3. German Green
4. Sammy Faustin

 

SS:
1. Josh Metellus
2. Brad Hawkins
3. J’Marick Woods
rs: Quinten Johnson

Guys, PLEASE STOP!!! I haven…

Guys, PLEASE STOP!!! I haven't been on this board in over a year (maybe more), but I actually woke up to a text message from a former player saying "you see your boys on MGoBlog? That's how this shit starts...wait until the media or other coaches get a hold of this! SMDH."

I'm only posting because players, parents, RECRUITS, and media are reading what you're saying. I'm now working back in the B1G (not Michigan) - but yes, other schools read your comments as well and they will make their way into the hands of recruits. Now that you've seen him, do you really think crazy ass Zach Smith wasn't taking threads like this and using them against Michigan?

And they don't call it negative recruiting (even though it is), because they don't have to say anything...it's you all providing the content, they're just the messenger to get it in the hands of a recruit or his parents. I've sat in senior staff meetings and talked about how we were going to "change the narrative" - these threads have real impact. 

 

Anyway, some of the reading comprehension in this thread is GOD AWFUL, the OP was NOT saying race had anything to do with the recent transfers. He gave examples of speculation from others. He's saying our coaches bench you when you say you're hurt and you don't automatically reclaim your spot that you felt you've earned. This is problematic, but it's not far-fetched when you think about Harbaugh. In fact, it's exactly what's happening. 100% confirmed.

In addition, Harbaugh is a shitty communicator on almost everything...so HE may be benching you because he thinks you're a pussy and you should practice or play through being hurt because you're not actually injured...but he may not tell you. Now this is 2018, if you're an 18 year old black kid in today's climate...do you think it's out of the question you or your family may question if it's race if no one is being straight up? Especially when people are in your ear and undoubtedly there is someone who is going to mention it and make you think, even if you weren't thinking about it before. Again, Harbaugh has to know that's coming. 

(Want another example of Harbaugh being a terrible communicator? See Jennifer Coney. Harbaugh absolutely didn't mean what he said or came across as saying - but it's 2018, you have to be smarter.)

Mind you - in Harbaugh's defense, if you're a coach, you CANNOT say "I think you're being a pussy and you should be practicing and playing through this being hurt...and if you're truly injured, sit your ass on the bench and get out of my practice." That would be a disaster. So the communication never happens, minds wander, it's a fucking mess. In reality it's Harbaugh that's going to have to change, the kid in 2018, going on 2019, is not.

It's not race and it IS injuries and Harbaugh, for whatever reason hasn't adjusted to today's climate or today's student-athlete. This isn't Bo and this isn't the 70's and 80's. If you want a team full of Mike Martin, Vincent Smith, Taylor Lewan, Wormley, Glasgow and Winovich's, that's what you should recruit. Harbaugh called Ben Mason his favorite player after ONE camp as a true freshman. How telling is that? A freshman! It's not because Ben Mason is white, it's because he's a crazy person that has a high tolerance for pain and he's a true tough guy. A Harbaugh guy. But, he's also white...and again, you have to be careful/smarter in 2018 as much as that sucks - things can and will get taken out of context.

But please stop with the race argument, you do NOT want that floating around this program. It actually already does without the fanbase arguing about it. I've always said Harbaugh is missing the boat by not having more black assistant coaches who can truly relate to kids from tougher or urban backgrounds (and their parents) - take that how you want, but it matters. Wheatley was his saving grace and he's gone.

Race is ALWAYS going to be factor in everything whether was choose to talk about it or not, I'm just asking that you all be responsible. You have a sport dominated by young black men, led in this (and many cases) by old white men. We can acknowledge that race is ALWAYS a factor in today's work without speculating on if it's the reason for all of these transfers OR complaining because someone brought it up as a reason for the transfers. Newsflash, no matter WHAT happens in today's world, race is ALWAYS going to be brought up as a possible factor if multiple races are involved. Debating or getting mad about that fact isn't helping. Again, just be responsible.

 

TL:DR - Stop arguing/complaining about race in this thread - it's not what the OP said and some of you are so fucking sensitive that it gets brought up in an OP and you ignore the whole post (which was telling you exactly what's happening). You all always want inside info and he literally gave you some. Understand that just like a recruit and his Twitter...anything YOU put on the internet (including this website) can be used against Michigan.

The OP is correct, this is about Harbaugh's philosophy on playing injured versus playing hurt (right or wrong, that's what it comes down to). Harbaugh needs to adjust or his philosophy is going to come back to hurt him - even if he's in the right.

As for Harbaugh, all he has to do is acknowledge it, address the entire team, squash the race bullshit and be clear on injuries vs. being hurt and how it'll impact playing time. That said it's time he change his mindset and allow for a little more leeway. Stop hiding being that meritocracy bullshit.

Logged in to tell you that you're using racist incorrectly.

Logged in to tell you that you're using racist incorrectly.

The word has been completely overused lately and that's sad because racism is still very much alive each and every day...we need to use it correctly so we're not desensitized to the word.

Anyway, this thread pretty much caps it for me. I tried my best to help this board stay afloat...got negged to the borders of Bolivia. I suppose a Fire Pep Hamilton thread is worse than this idiot posting to himself. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

Not gassing/hyping myself up, not saying I was some great or almighty poster...just saying I intentionally tried to keep threads, subjects, topics relevant on this board to encourage conversation and debate. In no way was I insightful (at least IMO), I just tried to get insight from those with far more insight than I'd ever have. There are some REALLY smart people who post or used to post.

Not another "high and mighty" diatribe goodbye post. Been there done that - really just don't like when people use racist incorrectly so had to speak up. That poster is corny, ignorant, offensive, and a complete dumbass...but racism deals with one's belief that his/her race is superior to others. Peace!

No. But because he's

No. 

But because he's qualified for the position as a current RB coach with experience as a RB coach, something Jay Harbaugh was not.

Him being an alum would be HUGE on the recruiting trail considering he's a dynamic personality that will connect with young people. Mainly young, African-American young people...which you know, comprise a good amount of our football team.

He adds diversity to a staff of primarily white men. Yes, I said it. He would also continue to add youth...something Jay Harbaugh adds to the staff, someone who listens to the same music and Snapchats and is current in all the same things the guys on the team are in to. Diversity in race AND in age is a good thing. Some recruits want a dad, some want the route to the NFL, some want a friend, some want the experienced vet, you need a little bit of everything.

Not only is he a young, black, alum who's a RB coach, but he's played in the NFL, somewhat recently. And when he was at Michigan...he was winning, he was a finalist for Doak Walker's, All-American awards, even the Heisman. He's got CREDENTIALS.

Want more? He basically followed Wheatley to EMU, then to Syracuse. Want more? He's been at both Eastern and Western Michigan...meaning he can recruit the state, something we're struggling (relatively speaking) with post-Tyrone Wheatley.

But, by all means...dismiss him because he went to Michigan and you're tired of the whole "Michigan Man" thing.

This isn't Scot Loeffler, it's not even Kurt Anderson...this actually makes sense. No matter what angle you come at it, Mike Hart isn't a name we should skip over just because he wore a winged helmet. Jim Harbaugh wore it too...I'm thankful like heck he's the head coach. He better be qualified first, but being a "Michigan Man" is an added bonus. Not a requirement.

If Mike Hart went to Alabama...half the people who say "WHY? Because he went to Michigan" would be jumping for joy to get a candidate like him. He would KILL it recruiting wise at Michigan, in a role (RB coach) that is just as much recruiter as it is coach.

Actually, no...not at all.

Actually, no...not at all. See below.

You just don't agree - which is fine

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Don't be surprised...

Don't be surprised...

...and what would that

...and what would that comment be? I'm honestly curious. What is the comment?

Exactly.
The NBA changed its

Exactly.

The NBA changed its dress code because players were DRESSING like "THUGS"...not fighting, what they were wearing. The NHL has allowed guys to beat each others brains in forever.

Again, I'm not picking a side, I'm just saying I see the point. That's what some of you can't do...you can see the point without agreeing with it.

It's clear as day where the man is coming from.

LOL
...zero clue why people

LOL

...zero clue why people sat/kneeled (which I disagree with, but at least took the time to LEARN about and ASK why).

Howcome anytime race comes up

How come anytime race comes up someone says you can't talk about race?

Maybe you and folks who agree with you should engage in the discussion of race...just a thought.

I don't think he gives

I don't think he gives 1...let alone 2 shits about your respect for him. Shits are valuable.

If you can pop off and share your opinions on a blog...he can share his opinions whenever he wants. He doesn't have to "shut his mouth" any more than you have to shut yours.

Make everything about

Make everything about race?

This is such a ridiculous comment. Do you know JD? Check is Twitter? Does he make everything about race?

So you make ONE comment about race and now all of your comments are about race? Think about what you just typed and hit "Save" on.

How is this "making everything about race?" Are you just uncomfortable discussing race?

...this is sarcasm for those

...this is sarcasm for those who don't know.

Not really, clearly shown by

Not really, clearly shown by the number of people in this very thread who agree with it.

He really doesn't though. You

He really doesn't though. You just don't agree...which is fine.

Terrible example...the point

Terrible example...the point of those examples is literally, to fight.

Your response makes no sense whatsoever.

That would be like me saying, they don't call traveling in basketball?!! Well....what about soccer?!!!

Exactly...it's just not a

Exactly...it's just not a relevation. He didn't discover anything and it's not a new topic.

It would be like me saying.

"Racism doesn't only exist in the south."

Well, yes, this is true...but ummm, this isn't new my man. But it's just part of growing up. Sometimes you think you discover shit that people have known for a REALLY long time.

...in your opinion.
He's got

...in your opinion.

He's got a point, you just don't agree with it. There's a difference.

No it's not - you just don't agree, doesn't make it stupid.

How about you flip the OTHER script...which is his point.

99% of black guys in a sport fighting and they're called "thugs" and it's absolutely not accepted the way it is now.

But it's not a relevation. Race is race.

People RIP the NFL for lower ratings, a predominately black sport with guys kneeling during the Anthem.

Guess what? NASCAR's ratings are down EVEN MORE!!! And that is a sport that supposedly celebrates the Star Spangled Banner. But you never hear about that, right? The President never tweets about that, right? Maybe because it goes against this narrative that the ratings in the NFL are down because of kneeling. Sure, plenty of people are against it - but you have to dig a little deeper.

But, the NFL has black players and fans kneeling and NASCAR has white drivers and fans waving the flag (along with the Confederate flag - which is kind of...weird). NHL has white guys fighting, part of the game...black guys fight in football or basketball? THUG.

Maybe it's just the difference in the game, maybe if white guys fight in basketball, they're thugs and if black guys fight in hockey, they're fine...but it's not hard to see where the opinion comes from.

My problem, personally, wasn't the comment...it was that it's not original. This was a huge topic during the "Malice at the Palace" or whatever we called it.

If they make money...why do

If they make money...why do you care if they're unwatchable or if they aren't well attended?

It's not like it's a charity to the players. They still generate revenue.

The alternative is more SportsCenter. If you want that...I challenge you to watch ESPNEWS for the duration of one of those shitty games.

Complaining about something that doesn't matter. Just don't watch it. Do you log into WatchESPN to watch Ball St. play Buffalo on a random week 9? No. But they still play. This isn't much different.

AS FOR THE OP...clearly a 2nd account. Called out WD a few days ago for having a 2nd account. How does anyone who has been on this site 2 weeks know WDs history that well? Just wanted to address it before someone said it was me, I sat trying not to be infuriated, then logged in to go off. I'm trying to prevent stress these days...Harbaugh and co. bring enough to our lives.

You're not supposed to be an

You're not supposed to be an elite pass rusher at that position. Gary is just a freak of nature.

You're more likely going to be Chris Wormley or Ryan Van Bergen-esqe. Kemp did a solid job, coaches are high on him.

The pass rush DE is the Charlton, Winovich (Paye/Vilian) spot.

I don't think he's 260 now.

I don't think he's 260 now. He should be by camp though. And yes, there's no point unless he's better than Kemp.

If he is...then by all means. Cut him loose. I personally think Kemp is an all-B1G SDE if not for the guy who starts over him.

Unless he's better than Carlo

Unless he's better than Carlo Kemp there is no point.

There is a guy by the name of Rashan Gary that won't be coming off the field too much. You also have Irving-Bey and R. Johnson. Not to mention Jeter can give snaps at SDE.

Hopefully he redshirts, gets

Hopefully he redshirts, gets bigger then competes with DIB for Kemp's backup in 19 and competes for the starting spot in 20.

That RS year could be huge...see Chase Winovich. I'm pretty sure we'll all trade no Chase his true freshman year for next year. Same with Mo Hurst.

LSU is about to buyout Matt Canada

I'd add him to any list.

For me it's simple.

HC: Jim Harbaugh

+10 assistants

1. OC/QB/co-AHC: Jedd Fisch (Matt Canada if that is too unrealistic)
2. RB: Mike Hart
3. WR: Zach Azzanni
4. TE: Vince Marrow
5. OL: Justin Frye
6. DC/ILB: Don Brown
7. DL: Greg Mattison
8. LB/co-AHC: Chris Partridge
9. CB: Mike Zordich
10. S: Devin Bush Sr.

Jay Harbaugh would move to a Director of Player Personnel type position and handle all phases of special teams.

Let the two future HCs be co-assistant head coaches. Let one coach the ALL Maize team and the other coach the ALL Blue team in the spring game.

Not to mention this staff would be the best recruiting staff in the nation along with UGA and Bama.

Lastly, nice blend of youth and experience, diversity, NFL and college experience, plus ties all around the country.

That simple.

That is Michigan arrogance at

That is Michigan arrogance at it's finest if you think being an OC at Michigan is better than a head coach at Memphis.

Norvell was in the mix for not one...but TWO SEC jobs this offseason. He elected to stay at Memphis with his raise, but probably could've gotten Arkansas or Tennessee if he went after either. Even if he finished #2 or #3...he's in the conversation.

Why the fuck does he need Michigan? He can get damn near any job he wants if he keeps winning at Memphis. What if he came and struggled with recruits he didn't recruit...he couldn't even get a Memphis level job again.

The last guy is now the HC at VA Tech and his name is always mentioned with every opening in the south. You act like Memphis is D3. If you're a top coach in the American you can go where you want in the P5. Frost could've gone to Florida. Hermann went to Texas.

lol...sorry, but that's ridiculous. Now we could steal their OC, that's a step up. But Mike Norvell? Shit, let's get Charlie Strong to come coach LBs if Partridge leaves.

Bullshit.

Stars matter. They're just not the only thing that matters. There is a huge difference.

Way Too Early Depth Chart

QB

1. Shea Patterson (Jr.) / Brandon Peters (RS So.)

3. Dylan McCaffrey (RS Fr.)

rs: Joe Milton (Fr.)

rs: Kevin Doyle (Fr.)

RB

1. Karan Higdon (Sr.) / Chris Evans (Jr.)

3. Kareem Walker (RS So.)

4. O'Maury Samuels (So.) / Kurt Taylor (RS Fr.)

6. Tru Wilson (Jr.)

rs: Christian Turner (Fr.)

rs: Hassan Haskins (Fr.)

FB

1. Ben Mason (So.)

2. Ben VanSumeren (Fr.)

WR

1. Tarik Black (So.)

2. Nico Collins (RS Fr.) / Nate Schoenle (RS So.)

WR

1. Donovan Peoples-Jones (So.)

2. Kekoa Crawford (Jr.)

SLOT

1. Grant Perry (Sr.)

2. Eddie McDoom (Jr.) / Oliver Martin (So.)

rs: Ronnie Bell (Fr.)

TE1

1. Sean McKeon (RS So.)

2. Tyrone Wheatley Jr. (RS Jr.)

3. Mustapha Muhammed (Fr.)

TE2

1. Zach Gentry (RS Jr.)

2. Nick Eubanks (RS So.)

rs: Luke Schoonmaker (Fr.)

LT

1. Andrew Stueber (RS Fr.) / James Hudson (RS Fr.)

3. Nolan Ulizio (RS Jr.)

inj: Grant Newsome (RS Jr.)

rs: Ryan Hayes (Fr.)

LG

1. Ben Bredeson (Jr.)

2. Jon Runyan Jr. (RS Jr.)

3. Joel Honigford (RS Fr.)

C

1. Cesar Ruiz (So.)

2. Stephen Spanellis (RS So.)

RG

1. Michael Onwenu (Jr.)

2. Jon Runyan Jr. (RS Jr.)

3. Joel Honigford (RS Fr.)

RT

1. Chuck Filiaga (RS Fr.)

2. Juwan Bushell-Beatty (RS Sr.)

3. Nolan Ulizio (RS Jr.)

rs: Jaylen Mayfield (Fr.)

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WDE

1. Chase Winovich (RS Sr.)

2. Luiji Vilain (RS Fr.) / Kwity Paye (RS Fr.)

4. Reuben Jones (RS Jr.)

rs: Taylor Upshaw (Fr.)

NG

1. Bryan Mone (RS Sr.)

2. Aubrey Solomon (So.)

3. Michael Dwumfour (RS So.)

4. Phillip Paea (RS Fr.)

5. Carl Meyers (Jr.)

DT

1. Aubrey Solomon (So.)

3. Lawrence Marshall (RS Sr.) / Donovan Jeter (RS Fr.)

5. Michael Dwumfour (RS So.)

SDE

1. Rashan Gary (Jr.)

2. Carlo Kemp (Jr.)

3. Ron Johnson (RS So.) / Deron Irving-Bey (RS Fr.)

rs: Aidan Hutchinson (Fr.)

rs: Julius Welschof (Fr.)

OLB

1. Devin Gil (RS So.) / Josh Ross (So.)

3. Jordan Anthony (RS Fr.)

4. Cameron McGrone (Fr.)

ILB

1. Devin Bush (Jr.)

2. Elysee Mbem-Bosse (Jr.)

3. Drew Singleton (RS Fr.)

SLB

1. Noah Furbush (RS Sr.)

2. Josh Uche (RS So.)

VIPER

1. Khaleke Hudson (Jr.)

2. Jordan Glasgow (RS Jr.)

3. Otis Reese (Fr.)

CB

1. Lavert Hill (Jr.)

2. Ambry Thomas (So.)

3. Benjamin St.-Juste (RS Fr.)

4. Louis Grodman (RS Jr.)

CB

1. David Long (RS So.)

2. Brandon Watson (RS Sr.)

3. Myles Sims (Fr.)

rs: Germon Green (Fr.)

FS

1. Tyree Kinnel (Sr.)

2. Jaylen Kelly-Powell (So.)

3. Brad Hawkins (So.)

rs: German Green (Fr.)

SS

1. Josh Metellus (Jr.) / J'Marick Woods (So.)

3. Jordan Glasgow (RS Jr.)

rs: Sammy Faustin (Fr.)

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

LS

1. Camaron Cheeseman (RS So.)

2. Andrew Robinson (RS Sr.)

K

1. Quinn Nordin (RS So.)

2. Ryan Tice (RS Jr.)

P

1. Brad Robbins (So.)

2. Will Hart (RS So.)

KO

1. James Foug (RS Jr.)

2. Ryan Tice (RS Jr.)

KR

1. Ambry Thomas (So.)

2. Chris Evans (Jr.)

PRm

1. Donovan Peoples-Jones (So.)

2. Chris Evans (Jr.)

It's not that easy.

It's not that easy.

Folks have to calm

Folks have to calm down...

1st off...Mork won 3 games last year...his team was in complete disarray this summer...his 1st 4 years he went to bowl games, you know what? HE LOST ALL 4!

We have such recency bias and act like we don't follow the program like we do.

1. As I've said for years...there are THREE elite coaches in college football. That's it. Let's stop acting like so many other team have something we don't. Add Peterson and Patterson for the next level of coaches #4 and #5 in whatever order you want to put them in.

After that...it's a mismosh of coaches and Harbaugh's in that group. His OCs? Not so much. But Shaw, MORK, Petrino, Leach, Kelly, Franklin, Chryst, Richt, Gundy, are coaches in that next group with HARBAUGH...and you can make any argument you want for one over the other. I probably left off a few (Smart?), but you get the point.

There are THREE coaches clearly better than Harbaugh right now...two probably better...everyone else? Meh, we're right there. It's not like we've got Hoke. It's not like we've got some MAC coach who had 1 hot year.

Fix the offensive staff, finish the recruiting class, get better and let's roll. Harbaugh's the perfect coach for Michigan. Beilein isn't Coach K, Izzo, etc. - but we're getting by in other ways. We don't have to have Nick Saban to win a national championship, but we need to right assistants, recruiting the right players and calling the right plays...so far, we're not there. But we're not 3-9 or 4-8 with a shit ton of players getting suspended either.

Bush seems like a natural fit

Bush seems like a natural fit to replace Partridge or make him safeties coach and bring in someone else. I know Brown does a lot with One. Still a huge loss if it happens.

HC: Harbaugh
Co-OC: Enos
Co-OC: Roman
DC: Brown

QB: Harbaugh/Enos
RB: Jay Harbaugh (no comment - actually comment, still say Hart. Check his resume against Jay's, would crush recruiting at Michigan, adds diversity and keeps youth on offensive staff...move Jay to 100% SPT)
WR: Scott Turner
TE: Roman
OL: TBD (Kurt Anderson is available)

DL: Mattison
LB: Brown/TBD (someone who is a dynamic recruiter and can "make up" for the lack of diversity on the offensive side...better yet, KEEP PARTRIDGE!)
CB: Zordich
S: Bush Sr.

He should take the year

He should take the year off...collect his check. Replace Lane Kiffin at FAU when he leaves after next season.

I've always said if Rich Rod and his staff can get to the state of Florida, they would be a machine (relatively speaking). He'd keep that thing rolling in Boca, no question. Enough to be there 2-3 years and be back in the power 5.

Because that has been the

Because that has been the problem the past 10 years. Got it.

Jim Harbaugh played for Bo and the University of Michigan. Brady Hoke bleeds Michigan.

But we're losing because they don't understand the importance of the rivalry? What about OSU? That not mean anything either?

2 days in and a nominee for dumbest post of the year.

Hart has followed Wheatley a

Hart has followed Wheatley a little bit in his career. He's got the coaching resume. But more importantly, he'd CRUSH it recruiting wise at Michigan. 

Wheatley was a huge blow in that area. Having a young, African-American, high energy alum...Mike Hart would clean up in the midwest and NE. Same reason I added Marrow. Is UK churning TEs? No. But go look at his recruiting resume.

People like to bash when people say "Mike Hart" without actually thinking about it because you think people only mention him because they want a "Michigan Man."

I didn't come on here and go...

Harbaugh

Hart

Braylon Edwards

Kevin Koger

Kurt Anderson

Marcus Ray

etc.

Hart is a RB coach, he'd keep youth on our staff, he's got passion for Michigan and energy that would be a huge asset to our program. 

Now is "Fire Pep Hamilton"

Now is "Fire Pep Hamilton" appropriate?

I kid, I kid.

I'm not kidding.

....I'll repost and I'm out. Time to shake things up.

HC: Jim Harbaugh

OC: Phil Longo (current Ole Miss OC)

DC: Don Brown

QB: Harbaugh/Longo

RB: Mike Hart (current IU RB coach)

WR: Zach Azzanni (former Tennessee/current (soon-to-be former) Chicago Bears WR coach)

TE: Vince Marrow (current UK TE coach)

OL: Greg Frey

DL: Greg Mattison

LB: Chris Partrifge/Brown

CB: Mike Zordich

S: Devin Bush, Sr.

SPT: Partridge

*Jay Harbaugh as SPT coach/Analyst*

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Head Coach Jim Harbaugh + 10 Assistant Coaches

  1. Phil Longo
  2. Mike Hart
  3. Zach Azzanni
  4. Vince Marrow
  5. Greg Frey
  6. Don Brown
  7. Greg Mattison
  8. Chris Partridge
  9. Mike Zordich
  10. Devin Bush, Sr.
Time To Shake Things Up

HC: Jim Harbaugh

OC: Phil Longo (current Ole Miss OC)

DC: Don Brown

QB: Harbaugh/Longo

RB: Mike Hart
(current IU RB coach)

WR: Zach Azzanni (former Tennessee/current (soon-to-be former) Chicago Bears WR coach)

TE: Vince Marrow (current UK TE coach)

OL: Greg Frey

DL: Greg Mattison

LB: Chris Partrifge/Brown

CB: Mike Zordich

S: Devin Bush, Sr.

SPT: Partridge

*Jay Harbaugh as SPT coach/Analyst*

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Head Coach Jim Harbaugh + 10 Assistant Coaches

  1. Phil Longo
  2. Mike Hart
  3. Zach Azzanni
  4. Vince Marrow
  5. Greg Frey
  6. Don Brown
  7. Greg Mattison
  8. Chris Partridge
  9. Mike Zordich
  10. Devin Bush, Sr.
We need to change things

We need to change things offense and OU is fun to watch...BUT.

We don't have a Hesiman calibur QB (Baker was 2 years ago just like he is now) nor do we have OU's OL.

Look at all the time he has against one of the best defenses in the country. In the run game they're mauling UGA.

Give us Baker OR that line and we're in the playoff. But it doesn't work like that.

I post every now and again...

I post every now and again...

His college record is

His college record is basically the same as Nick Saban's at this point in Saban's career.

I'm not saying he's Saban, I'm saying he's proved he's a good college coach.

Those of you saying Fire

Those of you saying Fire Harbaugh...who are you replacing him with? Kiffin?

LOL, there are only 3 ELITE coaches in the country. Chris Petersen and Gary Patterson are the next tier.

Dantonio won THREE games last year. Brian Kelly won FOUR. For years I fought people on this board about David Shaw, while people said he just rode Harbaugh's coattails.

Who are you bringing in that is so good?

Now Drevno? Hamilton? Jay Harbaugh? No comment. Because we know what happened when I voiced my opinion on them the last time.

I do agree it's time for Harbaugh to be the CEO of the team and let his coordinators do the heavy lifting (like he does on defense).

But back to the original question...for all of you firing Jim Harbaugh? Who are you bringing in?

So he earned the draft status

So he earned the draft status and accolades off hype?

Well Giants fans, Josh Rosen goes #1...but you're taking Shane Morris #2.

Your logic is ridiculous, man. Makes no sense.

What about him is overrated?

What about him is overrated?

And if he is...which he isn't. What is Morris? Green? Cissoko? Campbell?

Fuck. How many guys can you

Fuck. How many guys can you name better than Peppers in the past 5 years? 10 years?

Just because he didn't play in a bowl game or beat OSU in a team game doesn't mean he's overrated. You're probably someone who has Harbaugh on the hot seat.

Shane Morris was overhyped and overrated. Derrick Green was overhyped and overrated. Jabrill Peppers finished something like 5th in the Heisman. Stop it.

So many of you are butt hurt like he was going to be some kind of program saving player while playing safety/linebacker and punt returner.

If you thought he was Charles Woodson...that's your damn fault. Don't blame him because you put expectations on him that we're damn near impossible. The rest of us saw a GREAT player who helped turned an entire program around from the darkest period of our lifetime.

He was a 5* player, 1st team All-American and conference player, Heisman finalist, 1st round draft pick. What else do you want from a 5* LB/S? He lived up to the rating. He's not even close to overrated.

Said I was blocked when I

Said I was blocked when I tried to point in the depth chart thread awhile back. I saved it though. Happy Holidays, everyone.



QB

1. Shea Patterson (RS Jr.) / Brandon Peters (RS So.)

3. Dylan McCaffrey (RS Fr.)

rs: Joe Milton (Fr.)

rs: Kevin Doyle (Fr.)



RB

1. Karan Higdon (Sr.) / Chris Evans (Jr.)

3. Kareem Walker (RS So.)

4. O'Maury Samuels (RS Fr.) / Kurt Taylor (RS Fr.)

6. Tru Wilson (Jr.)

rs: Christian Turner (Fr.)

rs: Hassan Haskins (Fr.)



FB

1. Ben Mason (So.)

2. Ben VanSumeren (Fr.)



WR

1. Tarik Black (So.)

2. Nico Collins (RS Fr.) / Nate Schoenle (RS So.)



WR

1. Donovan Peoples-Jones (So.)

2. Kekoa Crawford (Jr.)



SLOT

1. Grant Perry (Sr.)

2. Eddie McDoom (Jr.) / Oliver Martin (So.)

rs: Ronnie Bell (Fr.)



TE1

1. Sean McKeon (RS So.)

2. Tyrone Wheatley Jr. (RS Jr.)

3. Mustapha Muhammed (Fr.)



TE2

1. Zach Gentry (RS Jr.)

2. Nick Eubanks (RS So.)

rs: Luke Schoonmaker (Fr.)



LT

1. Andrew Stueber (RS Fr.) / James Hudson (RS Fr.)

3. Nolan Ulizio (RS Jr.)

inj: Grant Newsome (RS Jr.)

rs: Ryan Hayes (Fr.)



LG

1. Ben Bredeson (Jr.)

2. Jon Runyan Jr. (RS Jr.)

3. Joel Honigford (RS Fr.)

C

1. Cesar Ruiz (So.)

2. Stephen Spanellis (RS So.)



RG

1. Michael Onwenu (Jr.)

2. Jon Runyan Jr. (RS Jr.)

3. Ja'Raymond Hall (RS Fr.)



RT

1. Chuck Filiaga (RS Fr.) / Juwan Bushell-Beatty (RS Sr.)

3. Nolan Ulizio (RS Jr.)

rs: Jaylen Mayfield (Fr.)

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WDE

1. Chase Winovich (RS Sr.)

2. Luiji Vilain (RS Fr.) / Kwity Paye (RS Fr.)

4. Reuben Jones (RS Jr.)

rs: Taylor Upshaw (Fr.)



NG

1. Bryan Mone (RS Sr.)

2. Aubrey Solomon (So.)

3. Phillip Paea (RS Fr.)

4. Carl Meyers (Jr.)



DT

1. Aubrey Solomon (So.)

3. Michael Dwumfour (RS So.) / Lawrence Marshall (RS Sr.) / Donovan Jeter (RS Fr.)



SDE

1. Rashan Gary (Jr.)

2. Carlo Kemp (Jr.)

3. Ron Johnson (RS So.) / Deron Irving-Bey (RS Fr.)

rs: Aidan Hutchinson (Fr.)

rs: Julius Welschof (Fr.)



OLB

1. Devin Gil (RS So.)

2. Jordan Anthony (RS Fr.)

3. Cameron McGrone (Fr.)



ILB

1. Devin Bush (Jr.)

2. Josh Ross (So.)

3. Elysee Mbem-Bosse (Jr.)



SLB

1. Noah Furbush (RS Sr.)

2. Josh Uche (RS So.)

3. Drew Singleton (RS Fr.)



VIPER

1. Khaleke Hudson (Jr.)

2. Jordan Glasgow (RS Jr.)

3. Otis Reese (Fr.)



CB

1. Lavert Hill (Jr.)

2. Ambry Thomas (So.)

3. Benjamin St.-Juste (RS Fr.)

4. Louis Grodman (RS Jr.)



CB

1. David Long (RS So.)

2. Brandon Watson (RS Sr.)

3. Myles Sims (Fr.)

rs: Germon Green (Fr.)



FS

1. Tyree Kinnel (Sr.)

2. Jaylen Kelly-Powell (So.)

3. Brad Hawkins (So.)

rs: German Green (Fr.)



SS

1. Josh Metellus (Jr.)

2. J'Marick Woods (So.)

3. Jordan Glasgow (RS Jr.)

rs: Sammy Faustin (Fr.)

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LS

1. Camaron Cheeseman (RS So.)

2. Andrew Robinson (RS Sr.)



K

1. Quinn Nordin (RS So.)

2. Ryan Tice (RS Jr.)



P

1. Brad Robbins (So.)

2. Will Hart (RS So.)



KO

1. James Foug (RS Jr.)

2. Ryan Tice (RS Jr.)



KR

1. Ambry Thomas (So.)

2. Chris Evans (Jr.)



PR

1. Donovan Peoples-Jones (So.)

2. Chris Evans (Jr.)

*Think Ja'Raymond Hall is gone (transfer), Chase Winovich sounds like he's gone, which explains the German (NFL), Bunting/Wangler gone IMO, not surprised to see if Marshall and/or Watson move on.



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Said I was blocked

Said I was blocked when I tried to point in the depth chart thread awhile back. I saved it though. Happy Holidays, everyone.



QB

1. Shea Patterson (RS Jr.) / Brandon Peters (RS So.)

3. Dylan McCaffrey (RS Fr.)

rs: Joe Milton (Fr.)

rs: Kevin Doyle (Fr.)



RB

1. Karan Higdon (Sr.) / Chris Evans (Jr.)

3. Kareem Walker (RS So.)

4. O'Maury Samuels (RS Fr.) / Kurt Taylor (RS Fr.)

6. Tru Wilson (Jr.)

rs: Christian Turner (Fr.)

rs: Hassan Haskins (Fr.)



FB

1. Ben Mason (So.)

2. Ben VanSumeren (Fr.)



WR

1. Tarik Black (So.)

2. Nico Collins (RS Fr.) / Nate Schoenle (RS So.)



WR

1. Donovan Peoples-Jones (So.)

2. Kekoa Crawford (Jr.)



SLOT

1. Grant Perry (Sr.)

2. Eddie McDoom (Jr.) / Oliver Martin (So.)

rs: Ronnie Bell (Fr.)



TE1

1. Sean McKeon (RS So.)

2. Tyrone Wheatley Jr. (RS Jr.)

3. Mustapha Muhammed (Fr.)



TE2

1. Zach Gentry (RS Jr.)

2. Nick Eubanks (RS So.)

rs: Luke Schoonmaker (Fr.)



LT

1. Andrew Stueber (RS Fr.) / James Hudson (RS Fr.)

3. Nolan Ulizio (RS Jr.)

inj: Grant Newsome (RS Jr.)

rs: Ryan Hayes (Fr.)



LG

1. Ben Bredeson (Jr.)

2. Jon Runyan Jr. (RS Jr.)

3. Joel Honigford (RS Fr.)

C

1. Cesar Ruiz (So.)

2. Stephen Spanellis (RS So.)



RG

1. Michael Onwenu (Jr.)

2. Jon Runyan Jr. (RS Jr.)

3. Ja'Raymond Hall (RS Fr.)



RT

1. Chuck Filiaga (RS Fr.) / Juwan Bushell-Beatty (RS Sr.)

3. Nolan Ulizio (RS Jr.)

rs: Jaylen Mayfield (Fr.)

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WDE

1. Chase Winovich (RS Sr.)

2. Luiji Vilain (RS Fr.) / Kwity Paye (RS Fr.)

4. Reuben Jones (RS Jr.)

rs: Taylor Upshaw (Fr.)



NG

1. Bryan Mone (RS Sr.)

2. Aubrey Solomon (So.)

3. Phillip Paea (RS Fr.)

4. Carl Meyers (Jr.)



DT

1. Aubrey Solomon (So.)

3. Michael Dwumfour (RS So.) / Lawrence Marshall (RS Sr.) / Donovan Jeter (RS Fr.)



SDE

1. Rashan Gary (Jr.)

2. Carlo Kemp (Jr.)

3. Ron Johnson (RS So.) / Deron Irving-Bey (RS Fr.)

rs: Aidan Hutchinson (Fr.)

rs: Julius Welschof (Fr.)



OLB

1. Devin Gil (RS So.)

2. Jordan Anthony (RS Fr.)

3. Cameron McGrone (Fr.)



ILB

1. Devin Bush (Jr.)

2. Josh Ross (So.)

3. Elysee Mbem-Bosse (Jr.)



SLB

1. Noah Furbush (RS Sr.)

2. Josh Uche (RS So.)

3. Drew Singleton (RS Fr.)



VIPER

1. Khaleke Hudson (Jr.)

2. Jordan Glasgow (RS Jr.)

3. Otis Reese (Fr.)



CB

1. Lavert Hill (Jr.)

2. Ambry Thomas (So.)

3. Benjamin St.-Juste (RS Fr.)

4. Louis Grodman (RS Jr.)



CB

1. David Long (RS So.)

2. Brandon Watson (RS Sr.)

3. Myles Sims (Fr.)

rs: Germon Green (Fr.)



FS

1. Tyree Kinnel (Sr.)

2. Jaylen Kelly-Powell (So.)

3. Brad Hawkins (So.)

rs: German Green (Fr.)



SS

1. Josh Metellus (Jr.)

2. J'Marick Woods (So.)

3. Jordan Glasgow (RS Jr.)

rs: Sammy Faustin (Fr.)

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

LS

1. Camaron Cheeseman (RS So.)

2. Andrew Robinson (RS Sr.)



K

1. Quinn Nordin (RS So.)

2. Ryan Tice (RS Jr.)



P

1. Brad Robbins (So.)

2. Will Hart (RS So.)



KO

1. James Foug (RS Jr.)

2. Ryan Tice (RS Jr.)



KR

1. Ambry Thomas (So.)

2. Chris Evans (Jr.)



PR

1. Donovan Peoples-Jones (So.)

2. Chris Evans (Jr.)

*Think Ja'Raymond Hall is gone (transfer), Chase Winovich sounds like he's gone, which explains the German (NFL), Bunting/Wangler gone IMO, not surprised to see if Marshall and/or Watson move on.



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It's a minor compliance

It's a minor compliance violation...it happens. It's good to have some of those to show the NCAA you're monitoring. You have to watch out for the schools that don't report anything.

As for Chase, if he made up his mind to stay...why wouldn't he already announce it? I see why you wait if you're leaving, you don't want to be a distraction or have to field questions about it from all of the media. But if you're staying, what's the point of holding on to the announcement?