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Because I didn't say Brandon wasn't the source of that atmosphere. He absolutely was. I said when the Brian report came out he'd be fired by the end of this week.
All I was saying is I think it messes with the ideal timeline just a touch. It's not detrimental. It's not impossible to navigate. I just believe if he would've shut his f-ing trap and the e-mail thing not come out...we would've ideally wanted to fire him after the OSU game.
He was gone either way, I think the e-mails just accelerated anything. That was the final straw and that's when the donors REALLY started talking about pulling their money. But he was gone all along --- and so is Hoke. It's just about timing.
The AD search did begin awhile ago, I know this as fact. 100%. It may be informal "feelers," but they were definitely looking.
I do NOT believe a coaching search has taking place unless it was by Brandon himself.
It's not about when the coach is going to be here...it's about having the best pool of candidates. My point was if you fire Hoke after the OSU game. You're going to have media everywhere and certain coaches who we may have a shot at after Jan 1 are going to withdraw because they still have a game/season/playoffs to worry about. Dan Mullen is the obvious example. That would be HORRIBLE if he left MSU before the end of their season this year. He can leave, 100%, but that's so wrong if he doesn't see this season out.
- I never once mentioned anything about recruiting...recruiting has been dead for months now.
|2 min 29 sec ago||WD has surpassed Lloyd Brady||
in MGoBlog lore.
Never thought I'd see the day.
|6 min 51 sec ago||BASKETBALL SCHOOL||
|8 min 54 sec ago||Warde should be on this...||
All 3 are very good candidates. Just a matter of preference.
But you're asking people to vote on something most don't know anything about. All most can really do is read bios and wikipedia pages.
|14 min 15 sec ago||Because we've seen this story before||
Recruiting has been dead for months...not recruiting.
If you're without a coach for over a month, the media storm around potential candidate who may be interested becomes too much and some of those candidates withdraw their name without ever being offered.
Remember Texas last year...they had EIGHT people decline the job and not one was officially offered. From what I can remember, Saban, Briles, Malzahn, Fisher, Mora and Sumlin.
Not saying they would've gotten any of those guys, but it happens every year. The media storm becomes huge and guys who may be interested have to say no because they have a bowl game or this year the playoffs.
You don't want that problem. Do we no 100% that Mullen will say no? I can tell you with a good amount of certainy that he's going to decline any job rumored if MSU is in that playoff. He owes it to that team, that University to at least see the season out.
Remember Les Miles' press conference? "THANKS AND HAVE A GRRRREAT DAY."
A month is just a loooong time to be without a coach. We did that after Carr and it was a debacle. You want it to be as seamless as possible.
|22 min 51 sec ago||Well said.||
There has been very little noise about Brandon being fired based off of the football W/L column.
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|27 min 53 sec ago||I don't think we're disagreeing||
|35 min 34 sec ago||Ponying up for the MBB assistant coaches||
Don't forget his raises for the MBB assistants have allowed us to keep them.
|40 min 5 sec ago||Depends on how long you can last with an AD||
6-7 weeks feels like a long time to me.
And yes, you do not want another Bill Martin/Rich Rod situation where you fire your coach show early that everyone who MAY be interested has to openly deny interest because he's in the middle of a season.
We see every year how schools settle because they have to get publicly turned down by a potential candidate just because he's still coaching.
For example, if anyone in his/her right MIND thinks Mullen is leaving Mississippi St. before their out of the playoff (assuming they're in), he/she is CRAZY.
Why would he? It's the best season ever and he owes it to his players to see it through to the end. So he has to publicly deny everyone.
I mean Les Miles had to have a press conference before a game fergodsakes.
If you don't want timing to be an issue, you keep the media at bay by waiting until it's acceptable for a coach to be looking around. Days before a big game or postseason play isn't that time. Some guys throw the fingers up and leave, but others back away simply because of timing.
Can we afford to lose our guy, based off of timing? I personally don't think we're in a position to do so. We suck. We need our top choice or at least one of them and we need to make sure we're in a position to make the best run at that guy.
|47 min 28 sec ago||Are you at the bar right now?||
Telling everyone you personally got Brandon fired?
That's sure to get you lots of drinks from the guys and lots of late night action from the ladies.
Just do one thing for me, make sure you wear protection!
|50 min 39 sec ago||Awesome recap/timeline.||
Thanks for this! ...+1 x 100.
|54 min 44 sec ago||The student section chants are going to be interesting...||
I'm now looking forward to this game just to see what, if anything, happens. Is it a celebratory mood and if the team still sucks...how does that affect everything?
|56 min 6 sec ago||See, I don't think that was his timeline at all...||
I think the goal was to fire BRANDON after OSU and use December to find an AD knowing that you were buying time until bowl season and the end of the NFL season (when the candidates are better). That way the new AD could fire Hoke around 12/27, 12/28 and hire a new coach 1/5 or 1/6 and have the press conference at the end of that week.
Why that timeline?
Now you don't get that awkward "I've got to focus on a bowl game" or "We've still got games left in the regular season" press conference.
You don't want to be without a head coach for over a month, that's craziness. You want to stall on firing Hoke and taking care of Brandon after OSU gives you that time.
Now you lose that excuse because you can wait to fire Hoke knowing you don't have an AD, that's reasonable to EVERYONE. You can't wait to fire Hoke after hiring a new AD, everyone knows he's gone.
Hopefully that makes sense.
If I'm the UofM President, I stall like crazy on this AD search, buy myself as much time as possible and when I hire a new AD, I tell him to take his customary 2 weeks. I don't want a new AD (on the job and in the office) until mid-December.
If a new AD is hired in mid-December, he'll get a pass for a week of "we'll evaluate all of our coaches" plus you have the holiday. That gets you to that 12/27, 12/28 timeframe I was talking about for Hoke.
|1 hour 8 min ago||Well there was never doubt||
I've been telling you guys for weeks what the timeline likely was...and when the e-mail stuff came out, I said it was likely this Friday (today) and how it actually may hurt us that Brandon f'd up again and accelerated his timeline.
Now unless they take 2 months to find an AD, they're going to have someone in by the end of the year. That person doesn't need all of December to evaluate Hoke. Hoke is GONE after the OSU game. No question about it. The only way he's not is if the new AD hasn't been hired.
Brandon fucked it up because it would've been a better timeline for Brandon to be fired after the OSU game, use 2-3 weeks in Decemeber to find your new AD, then fire Hoke right after Christmas.
That's when you want to fire Hoke. Something like December 27th. Why? Because you want to be in bowl season and you want the NFL regular season to be over.
Fire Hoke after the OSU game and you've got to wait over a month before you get to that ideal timeframe to hire a new coach. We can't go without a head coach for over a month.
|1 hour 12 min ago||Me neither...||
...and I have a different take because I'm an athletics admin. So, this is like "ooooh snap!" for me in so many ways.
I want to just pause everything, read up, digest it all...then hit play. I've got like 10 windows open all to MGoBlog trying to catch up and read all of the reaction.
I haven't even gotten to local and national media.
|20 hours 25 min ago||I'm not going to lie...||
I've been down about just about everything...the sky is falling.
This made me happier than it ever should have and I don't feel a bit of guilt. I deserve to have just a little bit of happiness, don't I?
Love this news.
|20 hours 27 min ago||I'm sad reading that||
And they keep repeating it on TV.
|20 hours 28 min ago||Dave Brandon saddled Rich Rod with Greg Robinson?||
We're making shit up now.
Dear Jim Harbaugh,
Please come to Michigan so me and my pals can me happy again.
|20 hours 31 min ago||Comments like this make me chuckle||
Because are you telling me, you'd turn down millions from sponsors who want to plaster your face all over their billboards and commercials?
LOL - some of you all crack me up. Like LeBron is chilling in his basement writing his next Nike commercial. No, that's not how it works. They pay him A LOT of money to use his image, likeness, etc. and put their logo on it.
How come no one bashing Bo Jackson for "Bo Knows" or Michael Jordan for "Be Like Mike" or Tiger Woods for "I Am Tiger Woods?"
NIKE GON NIKE my man. Always and forever.
On the court people compare him to Magic Johnson and bash him for passing TOO much. That doesn't sound like a self-centered person. So that comment couldn't have come from his on the court play.
"The Decision" was an awful decision that what, a 24 year old made, who had never been recruited, who had a bunch of people around him tugging at him, and had the lure of playing with his buddies. And someone along the way told him it would be okay if he raised all of the money for the Akron Boys and Girls club.
It was f-ing ridiculous and that was a very selfish and idiotic show...but 18 year olds do it the first week in February every year and it's celebrated.
...or is this because he's a businessman and has a very good management team around him? Can you blame LeBron that ESPN loves him even more than dare I say, MGoBlog loves Kate Upton?
I can name a bunch of athletes more "self-centered" than LeBron. We he leaves he's selfish. When he comes back. He's selfish.
Hate him if you want, you're a fan. Hate whoever you want. But be honest as to why you hate him. In the same way you're honest in why you hate OSU or MSU. There's nothing wrong for hating LeBron, "just because." But saying you hate him because he's self-centered is like me saying "I hate OSU because they suck."
|20 hours 45 min ago||I'm sure someone is paying for it...||
Beats, McDonald's, Coke/Spite, Nike/LBJ (shoes), PowerAde...
|22 hours 13 min ago||Remember when all of Ohio hated LeBron?||
Remember when all of Ohio hated LeBron?
|22 hours 15 min ago||These people reproduce!||
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|2 days 1 hour ago||The downside||
The downside is it almost forces you to fire Hoke right after the OSU game. And you don't want to do that because you don't want to go a month plus without a coach.
You want to fire Brandon after the OSU game, then take 3 weeks to replace him with Hoke's status up to a person who's yet to be hired. Then hire that person and let him/her fire Hoke shortly after and hire a new coach a week later.
You want the coaching transition to be 2 weeks MAX. Firing Brandon now leaves you in a situation where Hoke's timeline gets moved up. If not, everyone knows you're just hold on to him trying to buy time to the bowl season/end of NFL regular season.
It's better for the AD search be the longer of the two searches. Even if you know who you're going to hire. Give them the customary 2 week grace period and when they get to Michigan just before Christmas, they can use the holiday as reason to give it a week before firing Hoke on something like the 27th.
Hire Harbaugh, Harbuagh, Mullen, or Mark Stoops on the 5th of January and let's roll!
|2 days 1 hour ago||I said this a month ago...||
We have too many MGoBloggers on campus not to know the deal with Peppers. I mentioned it HAD to be recruiting or some type of agent/impermissable benefit situation.
We knew about Des Morgan's arm by 10a monday morning when the MGoStudents saw him in class/on campus.
You mean to tell me, there was no one that said "Hey Peppers, how much longer you out?"
He's one of the 5 most high profile kids on campus. There's no way we wouldn't know about an injury.
We were selling ourselves short.
This isn't shocking (considering he's been like a unicorn as of late), let's just hope it's not Michigan-career ending. The kid can ball, by all accounts he's a great kid, hopefully everything is straigtened out and we can see him back on the field soon. Turning this program around and bringing some excitement back to Ann Arbor.
|2 days 5 hours ago||Can we get a new picture?||
This incompletion by Roundtree still kills me.
|2 days 5 hours ago||WD is back you know...||
...we're covered on the UNIFORMZ front once again. However, thank you for your time and service.
Now back to our regularly scheduled program.
|2 days 5 hours ago||Well I upvoted you (this post)||
Because I think you can neg someone and completely disagree without going as far as seeking out their every post and negging it. I rarely pos/neg any post that's not OSU/MSU/ND troll related. But those who do that are lame in my opinion.
It takes waaay too much time and effort and you come off looking like the bigger idiot - only, there's no name attached to negging someone's post (just the OP/thread) so only the user auto-negging knows how much of an idiot he really is, which is even more pathetic.
However, I suppose in some way it makes people feel better. Feel accomplished.
I say let them be, they usually go away after they realize how stupid it is.
|2 days 5 hours ago||Syracuse Selfie Stations||
|2 days 7 hours ago||MY GOD SHUT UP!||
EVERYTHING DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE 1990!
Who gives a shit what Squad 99 is, it's probably their version of Team 135. Every new idea doesn't have to be used to bash the entire athletics department. In the end, who cares...it's 2014 and they're engaging their fanbase in a 2014 manner. It's not that big of a deal. They're taking selfies rather than giving autographs, it's not going to affect anything during the season...I promise.
Get over it.