November 30th, 2014 at 11:08 AM ^
November 30th, 2014 at 11:14 AM ^
Nebraska's last game was a day before ours.
The formula is 1) last game 2) a day for the dust to settle and conduct the fake "evaluation" 3) firing day.
Look for Hoke to be fired on Monday, Tuesday at the latest.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:20 AM ^
November 30th, 2014 at 11:22 AM ^
Given that Hackett can't even form the committee to look for a new AD in a freaking month, I'll take that bet. I think we're looking at least another week, if not two.
Michigan is like a gigantic, creaking, ponderous battleship that's rapidly taking on water, but the captain thinks he needs to study the situation for several days before he makes a decision.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:33 AM ^
November 30th, 2014 at 11:43 AM ^
I just hope that's the case because he's been informed JH will be more likely to come here if Hackett's AD. If Hackett's decided to take the job himself simply because he's been seduced by the position and situation, that's a bad, bad sign for Michigan in the long run.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:54 AM ^
November 30th, 2014 at 12:05 PM ^
The firing part I'm fine with, but hiring a new coach(unless he gets Harbaugh) is very questionable. I don't feel confident that someone with zero AD experience will make the right hire and stabilize the football program. Let's hope come January we have our coach and are not going through "The Process" all over again.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:38 AM ^
November 30th, 2014 at 11:43 AM ^
November 30th, 2014 at 12:02 PM ^
Or metaphor? Discuss.
November 30th, 2014 at 1:27 PM ^
Simile's use the words "like" or "as". A metaphor is a substitution.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:10 AM ^
/s
November 30th, 2014 at 11:11 AM ^
Bring him here. DO IT
He won't be unemployed long
November 30th, 2014 at 11:19 AM ^
November 30th, 2014 at 11:25 AM ^
Why not? Harbaugh's gonna need a DC.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:17 AM ^
Still a head-scratcher to me. But as with pretty much everybody, I fully expect he'll be a HC somewhere else next year. He's not a Muschamp/Kiffin kind of situation looking to land in a good coordinator spot. My money is on Kansas right meow, but we'll see what else opens up.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:25 AM ^
November 30th, 2014 at 12:35 PM ^
Who's got the cat gif ?
November 30th, 2014 at 11:17 AM ^
November 30th, 2014 at 11:18 AM ^
9-3, and the losses were not terrible, at least compared to ours. Wow, safe to say that would never get him fired at Michigan.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:19 AM ^
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November 30th, 2014 at 11:24 AM ^
I agree—if Harbaugh isn't hired, then it's crack for everyone!
November 30th, 2014 at 11:56 AM ^
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November 30th, 2014 at 12:29 PM ^
let the wise cracks begin.
That krakes me up.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:28 AM ^
Time for the application of the RR framework:
1. Will Pelini learn from his experience and make himself a better coach?
2. If so, how long will it take? A year or so to reflect, meditate, and learn, like RR? Shorter? Longer?
If Pelini takes the RR approach, someone will hire a very good coach at some point. Its just a question of if and when Pelini will grow like RR did. Pelini seems like a hard-headed guy, so who knows.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:46 AM ^
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November 30th, 2014 at 11:51 AM ^
Ease your scowled face. I'm not trying to start a RR reactionary debate, nor will I engage in one. I assume that the reason RR was not successful at UM was both internal and external. I also assume he learned something from the situation about transitioning from one D1 program to another. I am not sure, however, that UM learned something.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:30 AM ^
has basically been asking to be fired for like 3 years now.
Pellini to Florida!!!!
November 30th, 2014 at 11:30 AM ^
Why is this topic OT?
Clearly our higher ups want to see what music Hoke picks at the banquet.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:30 AM ^
Hard to believe Hoke may keep his job for a while, until the evaluation has been complete. This what worries me about the AD at Michigan. It should be an easy evaluation to complete within a few hours. There are probably some in the department who believe Hoke should be given one more season to turn the team around! LOL!
November 30th, 2014 at 11:40 AM ^
I'm surprised that so many of you are shocked...he was rumored to be fired every year for the past 3-4 years.
After that Wisconsin game, he was done.
They're not going to put up with his antics with 8-9 win seasons. We wouldn't either. LSU wouldn't with Miles...but Miles wins and it's cute. People loved MANBALL during Hoke's first year...his no headset was dismissed and clapping was him showing emotion.
Now we hate ALL of those things.
In the end, the Pelini's just rub people the wrong way and people aren't going to tolerate it if they're not winning. In the eyes of the decision makers, I can pay someone else to go 8-4 and have far less of a headache.
He's always yelling at players, embarrassing the program and apologizing, he's shown on TV as the crazy guy.
Look no further than Kirk Ferentz...he has made a living with these kinds of seasons, but he's a nice guy and doesn't rub anyone the wrong way.
It's probably best for both parties to just move on. He'll get another job, no question...he won football games. But when you rub people the wrong way...you leave no room for error. Harbaugh is experiencing that at San Fran...why would they fire him? He's been GREAT. In that situation, I personally think the ownership is crazy, but still...Harbaugh's not a choir boy.
Harbaugh will find another job, hopefully Michigan if he's fired. Pelini will too. If Miles turns in a bunch of 7 and 8 win seasons...he'll be looking for another job too. And he's got rings. But you already hear rumblings about how people don't like his "antics," press conferences, etc. and they've just had one down year.
Just part of being at a big school, epecially when you're not a choir boy or you're not a neutral personality.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:43 AM ^
The reason Hoke won 11 games = Denard.
November 30th, 2014 at 12:12 PM ^
The reason any coach wins games is usually because of their players. Helfrich wins games because of Mariota.
My point was just that the things that drive people crazy about Hoke (headset, clapping, MANBALL, press conference, injury secrecy, etc.) didn't bother people as much when he won.
Now that we suck...they use those same things as reasons he's just awful, annoying, etc.
The grass eating, clapping, press conference, weird creepy voice was endearing to LSU fans when Miles was winning. Now they bitch about it because they're having a bad year. Imagine if they had 2-3 more years like this one while the Alabama schools and Mississippi schools continue to dominate. He'll be gone. And unlike Hoke...Miles has CHAMPIONSHIPS. But he'll still be gone. Because that shit doesn't fly when you're not winning championships.
You need to be more like Ferentz and Fitzgerald if you're not winning championships. Be like Shaw at Stanford or Kill at Minnesota.
Now none of those programs are Michigan, LSU or Nebraska. But my point is Pelini was WINNING. He didn't win championships, but he was winning.
But his antics rubbed people the wrong way and he was yelling at players and just being a dick...the University finally had enough.
Let Brian Kelly yell at his QBs and get all red faced while having a third 7, 8 win season. He'll instantly be on the hot seat. Those domers aren't going to put up with that shit if he's not winning. Or even if he wins 9 games, that may not be enough wins to put up with him. It's embarrassing, but they justify it because so far he's been pretty damn good.
Pelini was pretty damn good too. But eventually you start to think, hey, we can save face for our program and University and save ourselves the embarrassment and antics and apologies every year...we can win 8-9 games with someone else and live in peace and headache free.
I think people are thinking "Nebraska is crazy if they think they're going to get more wins." I think they're thinking we can get (at least) the same result, with less "Pelininess" every year.
November 30th, 2014 at 12:19 PM ^
Just wanted to say that you really added something of value to the discussion here- image matters a lot to a public institution
BTW- I think Hoke's "good guy" image has helped him a little with many fans- so he is a mixed bag of irritating and endearing
November 30th, 2014 at 12:41 PM ^
Pelini had some sort of crazy expensive buyout. Anybody remember ? I think it was revealed as one reason he was not fired last year. There have been a million posts about his firing on the internet in the last couple of years and i think they all mentioned this as a reason for his staying on.
November 30th, 2014 at 12:15 PM ^
compared to 458 the previous season might have played a tangential part.
November 30th, 2014 at 12:00 PM ^
would keep Hoke if he had finished with an 8-4 record!
November 30th, 2014 at 12:22 PM ^
Hoke is a lot more like Kirk Ferentz than Bo Pelini. Hoke annoys the piss out of MGoBloggers, but to the masses, he's a nice loveable guy. Pelini and Brian Kelly are preceived as dicks to most of the public. People don't like having to justify their coach yelling at a college kid over and over. Anyone remember Kelly a few years ago with Rees? I believe it was like a game vs. USF (Notre Dame lost)...he was TORCHED in the media for how he handled that.
He got torched this year for blaming a loss on his QB. Pelini has had to apologize 3-4 times for his behavior. He carried a cat into a football game.
And those don't fly when you don't win. Or when you don't win --- enough.
And sidenote: I'm not sure I agree on 8-4...I think it would've depended on who we beat, how we finshed the year and what happened in the bowl game.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:34 AM ^
Some interesting data from an article on the firing - keep in mind Osborne played in an era with less regular season games so its not a true apples to apples but still...
Pelini improved to 67-27 as Nebraska's coach on Friday with a 37-34 overtime win at Iowa. The victory pushed Pelini's win total past Tom Osborne for the most ever at the school in a coach's first seven years. In fact, no coach in the history of a Power 5 program had been fired for on-field performance after winning as many games in his first seven years.
Only Alabama and Oregon -- first and second this week in the College Football Playoff rankings -- can match the Huskers in winning nine games each year since 2008.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:36 AM ^
really interesting. He won 70% of his games
November 30th, 2014 at 12:42 PM ^
Yes, but no national championships. Osborn won two. That's how they measure success in Nebraska and the truly elite schools. Not so much here at Michigan -- that's our problem. We spout history and tradition because we don't really measure up in the modern era -- and we don't accept that. Acceptance is the first step towards change.
November 30th, 2014 at 12:02 PM ^
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November 30th, 2014 at 12:31 PM ^
Or let me rephrase...I don't think this was all about expectations.
I think it had a lot to do with Pelini rubbing people the wrong way. If he was Jerry Kill, Kirk Ferentz, David Shaw or Charlie Strong and had that same record. He'd still be coaching at Nebraska.
He may be on the hot seat, but he'd be back, IMO.
I think this had more to do with getting the same thing they got from Pelini (wins and losses wise)...without the shame, embarassment, headache and #faceplam moments.
November 30th, 2014 at 12:08 PM ^
In his first seven seasons, Osborne was 65-18-2 (36-12-1 in conference) for 76.4%
Pelini went 67-27 (39-17 in conference) for 71.2%
In 1976, mid-way through his first seven years, Osborne went 9-3-1 and went 2-2 against the four ranked teams he played.
In 2011, Pelini's fourth season, he went 9-4 and went 2-3 against ranked teams, including three blowout losses to Wisconsin, Michigan, and South Carolina.
I think the embarrassing blowout losses and his prickly, "fans can go fuck themselves" personality combined to do him in.
November 30th, 2014 at 12:11 PM ^
November 30th, 2014 at 1:41 PM ^
No championships....that's what did him in.
And despite what a few posters here say, regularly winning championships is a very realistic expectation at Nebraska. Coach Pelini had 7 years, that's pretty fair I think. He came close a few times but the ball didn't bounce his way.
Very interesting that some here would like him considered at UM. Personally, I think he's better suited for the pro game at some level.