OT: Buckeye FB coach stranded in apocalyptic Atlanta traffic jam

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OSU assistant coach Tom Herman was in Atlanta on a recruiting trip, and found himself trapped in the mind-boggling traffic jam that a small amount of snow caused on his way to the airport. Hilarious and amazing.

http://college-football.si.com/2014/01/29/ohio-state-tom-herman-atlanta…

DamnYankee

January 29th, 2014 at 12:10 PM ^

  • I live about 6 miles from work and it took me close to 7 hours to get home.  I fiinally had to park my car in a subdivision about a mile from my house and walk the remaining route last night. 
  • Media is saying that when the snow started around noon or so, the temp was right around freezing and quickly dropped which caused everything to ice over. 
  • In addition, all of the schools announced mid-day that they were closing early...which means parents have to leave early to get the kids...and it snowballed from there.  I saw one headline that said "this is what happens when 5.5 million people all get released and hit the streets in about 90 minutes." 
  • Once that happened, the salt trucks were rendered useless because they couldn't get around. 
  • Per the commenter above, Atlanta is very hilly.  I found out last night that the cause of the delay on my route was a Coke truck that couldn't make it up the hill started sliding backwards and then jack-knifed.

treetown

January 29th, 2014 at 6:17 PM ^

That picture is very helpful - it isn'ta 6 foot deep blizzard from Orchard Park, NY (just south of Buffalo, NY) but a perfect confluence of stuff:

1. Heavy traffic everyday without any bad weather. A lot people there have hour to two hour commutes without snow and rush hour is usually spread out over 2-4 hours, not everyone at once in a jailbreak.

2. Little equipment and preparation for a ice/snow storm. In places where heavy snow storms are expected everybody even stores have their own gear. I lived in Buffalo for 10 years, and the large grocery store chains there (Wegman's and Tops, like Krogers here) all had their own mounds of KCL, sand and their own front loader prepositioned just to deal with their private parking lots.

3. Poor planning (some news reports point out there was a lot of warning) - can't 'grease' someone's palm to make it stop snowing. The objective evidence of poor municipal function really come out.

4. Less capable bad weather driving skills - even transplants forget if they get out of practice. Look at Southern Callifornia where RAIN making the coefficient of friction to decrease a bit leads to warnings to be issued.

5. Hilly roads - gravity is the universal law.

6. A touch of mass hysteria. Everyone trying to run home, pick up their kids, buy milk, batteries, generators, shotgun shells before the world ends.

creelymonk10

January 29th, 2014 at 12:15 PM ^

So what happens when the roads clear up but 1/4 of the abandoned cars, including Herman's, are still on the road. Drivers have to weave in and out of parked cars on the highway? I doubt everyone that abandoned their cars will come back at the same time and make this easy.

Paps

January 29th, 2014 at 12:19 PM ^

Some clarification on this traffic:
Around 10:30 am snow flurries began to fall
At about 11:30-12:00 snow began to fall at a decent pace.
Sometime around 12:00-12:30 all works and schools canceled, which means a city of 6-7 million trying to come home at once.
Nobody outside of law enforcement has any sort of cold weather gear for their cars, and many if not most, have never experienced driving in something like this.
By about 2:30-3:00 the snow had frozen on the roads, and literally everything was ice across the whole city.
The reason the interstates were so backed up was because in several key spots school buses and tractor-trailers had broken down and blocked the highway.

Atlanta traffic is very bad as it is, and the ice and snow didn't help. this wasn't the fluffy powdery stuff that is easy to drive through.

People that say why Isn't ATL prepared for this... Of course they aren't!!!! This happens like once every 5 or 6 years (maybe)!

Paps

January 29th, 2014 at 12:21 PM ^

Close to driving on ice (I'm a high school student). After my 10 min drive home from school took 2 hours, my friend and I went out and pushed cars up the hill near my house for about 4 hours.
Everyone got on the roads within about an hour. That was the issue. Met so many people that just pulled their cars over or Parked in shopping centers and just walked it.

Paps

January 29th, 2014 at 12:24 PM ^

Of a problem of ineptitude as it was pure numbers of cars on the icy roads.
You northerners have no right to judge us on events that happen once every 5 years!!! That's why the weather is called extreme!!

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

January 29th, 2014 at 1:08 PM ^

You northerners have no right to judge us on events that happen once every 5 years!!!

Yes we do.  Southerners always brag about what great weather they have, and how glad they are to not have to live in the Rust Belt and the cold weather, and what suckers northerners are for not being clever enough to move down south.  This is just the flip side of the coin.

Blue Koolaid

January 29th, 2014 at 12:54 PM ^

Why would you need a fleet of plow trucks with salt for 2 inches of snow? My road almost never gets plowed, I live at the bottom of a hill that Ts at the bottom because of the lake. I went out and got beer in the middle of the recent storm. I get that they are not used to these conditions but you don't need a fleet of plow trucks when there is only 2 inches of snow.

Is there ice too? Ice is a different story although I still made it up my very steep hill with 6 inches of snow covering ice but I am used to this as I have lived at my current house for 7 years and most of my life in Michigan. Still I look at the pictures and can't help but laugh a little. Stay safe southerners!

Crime Reporter

January 29th, 2014 at 1:02 PM ^

I thought my 15-hour traffic-filled drive (it's supposed to take 10) from TN to FL was bad last month but this would be nuts. If there is one thing The Walking Dead taught me it is avoid Atlanta in the event of zombie/snow apocalypse.

Doughboy1917

January 29th, 2014 at 5:10 PM ^

EDSBS is right.  Traffic in Atlanta sucks on a good day and most people here have no idea how to drive in a little snow.

Still, city and state officials should take a lot of blame for this. They should have coordinated school transport, encouraged businesses to wait to send home workers and released government workers after private sector folks had time to get out of the city. They should have had their newly-purchased salt trucks out ahead of the snow to get a little salt down in advance.

Personally, as a Michigan born and bred driver (who took drivers education in a Michigan January, ferchristsake), I had a hard time understanding the traffic jams.  I drove my two-seat, rear-wheel-drive, sports car home yesterday on side streets that were a little wet and slushy, but not too bad. The main roads were gridlocked and barely moving.  My 20 minute drive took two hours, but at least I got home.  I really feel bad for people who spent the night on the interstates.  

The worst part is that this will all happen again the next time Atlanta gets snow.

thumpinman

January 29th, 2014 at 9:07 PM ^

They just stopped. Right in the middle of the highway, they just gave up. I probably dodged 130 or more that had just turned their car off and just sat there. I kept going. Thought that if I stopped, I too would still be sitting there.

To be honest, I've never been as scared as I was last night. More then a dozen times 18 wheelers, barely missed me while jack knifing out of control! I was behind a semi that couldn't make it up a hill and began sliding backward at me! Scared the hell out of me. I was so lucky to get out of the way as it slid by. I can't believe it missed everyone. Wow! What a night!

Johnny Blood

January 29th, 2014 at 1:40 PM ^

I live about 20 minutes south of Atlanta...

It's not the weather that has everything paralyzed, it is our complete lack of any sort of capacity to deal with it.  Our game plan is basically wait until everything melts and goes away. 

And the biggest problem (aside from the fact that everyone got on the roads at the same time and we have no salt / sand trucks or plows and it is hilly) is that everything iced over almost immediately.

But yeah, the average southern driver has no ability to deal with this even without the ice.

tn wolverine

January 29th, 2014 at 3:28 PM ^

I am also a transplanted Michigander living in the South( Tri-cities Tenn.) I live 10 mins. From home and have had to spend an hour or better trying to get home, because these idiots have no clue how to drive in a tiny bit of snow. They're not smart enough to slow down when it starts to snow, they just panic. Many times they just abandon their cars. They literally leave them in the middle of the road because they're scared. It drives me crazy. If you can't drive in snow stay home. I can, I don't want to have to deal with you !!!! In all fairness they suck driving in good weather too, but at the first flurry...look out. I feel better now. Deep breath, deep breath.

Sllepy81

January 29th, 2014 at 4:35 PM ^

I'm actually originally from California and never had snow really until I lived here in Richmond but the ones I love are the BMW owners, they feel that they have technology over everyone and haul ass not having a clue that they drive RWD cars and I count multiple bmws wrecked every time it snows. They either drive way to fast or really slow in the safest lanes to drive a little faster in. It's a mess I mostly stay home when it snows now here, you life is in the hands of the confederates here in the snow.

SHub'68

January 29th, 2014 at 8:17 PM ^

These higher performance cars often come with summer performance tires; or something less than winter capable.  If you live in the south, you can use these tires to great effect 360 days of the year.  But when there is ANY snow on the road - and I mean ANY - you might as well spread water on the road, freeze it, and cover it with butter, because in cold and snow, summer performance tires are horrible.  They even come with warnings about this (like not for use under 40 degrees) which most people ignore because tires.  And more and more cars come with them - especially higher performance BMWs.  Heck, even on SUVs and AWD crossovers.

Now, there is nothing wrong with these tires, but you should change them out when winter weather hits and use your all-seasons.  But few do this because $$$.  And there really isn't much winter in the south to justify it; it's impractical.  And that is assuming folks even have a clue what tires are on their leased car in the first place...

I know of what I speak.  I lived in Michigan from birth to 30 years.  I now live in North Carolina, and have for several years.  I also drive a rear-drive performance car that came standard with summer performance tires.  For one day each year - sometime two or three - I drive our truck.  And stay off the roads as much as possible because drivers down here suck when it's dry, let alone when it rains or, gasp, snows!

User -not THAT user

January 29th, 2014 at 1:51 PM ^

is why Urban sends his coaches to recruit in Atlanta and why Hoke doesn't; we've got some ballers down here, especially in the suburbs.

Anyway, LOL at Northerners who think we're ignorant hicks who can't handle a little snow.  For one thing, most of the people I share this city with are, unlike me, from somewhere else.  A lot of them are from places like the Midwest and the Northeast where, guess what, they have winters like this.  A lot of those folks (like me) know how to drive in these conditions when they have the space to do it.  But when you put 5 million-plus drivers on the road at the same time in a city known for gridlocked roadways in GOOD conditions while a snowstorm is moving through...you're gonna have a bad time.  The congestion is what killed the city, not the accumulation.  The accumulation made the congestion unrecoverable.  The congestion occurred because the civic and commercial authorities (government and businesses) did a lousy job managing the population/workforce from the start.

I left work at my normal time, 5 o'clock, to wait for the congestion to clear.  Luckily on my route home I didn't run into the worst of it.  I did run out of gas, conveniently across the street from a gas station.  I was able to refuel completely a mile or so down the road and then made it home about an hour later than I usually do (I'm about 25 miles from work where I live and it's typically an hour to an hour and a half one way).  I don't have an SUV like everyone else in this city...I have a (slightly) modified Nissan Cube with new-ish Michelin tires and MAYBE 100hp atw.  But it's a torquey engine and after nearly two years behind the wheel I know how it drives and more importantly I know how to drive taking conditions into consideration.  I never lost grip or traction and was able to switch lanes when I needed to without swerving into a guardrail or a ditch.

Usually we get lucky and the snow that we get hits in the afternoon hours or overnight...as rare as getting snow at all is here, it is rarer still for it to hit smack-dab in the middle of the business day.

Anyway.

We delivered the Bomb.

Ron Mexico

January 29th, 2014 at 2:03 PM ^

I like how southerners including the some of the guys that write for EDSBS and Gizmodo are so sensitive about the traffic. No matter how you explain the circumstances the whole situation was rather pathetic and helpless. 

MaximusBlue

January 29th, 2014 at 2:21 PM ^

And the state is shut down right down. All roads closed and travel at your own risk...For 3 inches of snow!!! There's accidents like crazy and a couple fatalities.

SCarolinaMaize

January 29th, 2014 at 3:21 PM ^

They use brine around here instead of salt.  The thing is, if it's not wet, it doesn't work.  So they spread it out, then we get a dry snow, and all the cars pack it into a nice skating rink.

Sllepy81

January 29th, 2014 at 3:39 PM ^

close school at a chance of snow and don't open them until every single street is clear. Even if its 1 inch of snow. It's a joke, its snowed last week 2 inches and 3 inches this week, my sons school was closed all but 1 day in 2 weeks.

MGoGrendel

January 29th, 2014 at 4:37 PM ^

Many people spent the night in their cars on the expressway. My son was on the surface streets and was stuck for 6 hours. People opened up their homes to stranded strangers, brought our hot chocolate, etc. He had a warm place to stay; many did not.

Blue in Yarmouth

January 30th, 2014 at 8:25 AM ^

So tat's what they mean when they say "southern hospitality". Seriously, that's pretty awesome. I live in a small town (30,000 people) and you would never see that happen here, at least not on a wide scale. Maybe a few people would be that kind, but not very many for sure.

m1jjb00

January 29th, 2014 at 5:35 PM ^

Same thing happened in DC a few years ago.  The problem then was a snow that hit just before rush hour and then the temp dropped enough to create ice everywhere.  I was in a 4x4 Silverado, which did less than you'd think b/c of everyone in front of me.  I'll never forget the vision of a city bus sliding sideways across the intersection.  Bottom line is that it takes very, very little in cities like Atlanta and Washington to jam things up.  All it takes is a few people who lose their minds, slide down a hill or simply stop at the wrong time.

Last summer it took me an hours and 1/2 to go 20 blocks one day because of the combination of a Nats game, Wizzards game and cherry blossoms.  You may recall that the Nats games was delayed 1/2 hour b/c the umpires were stuck in traffic.

Heck the first day we go to Eastern Standard time screws up traffic as people are suddenly commuting in the dark.

All that said, southern drivers suck if they're not making lefts around an oval.

Dix

January 29th, 2014 at 7:52 PM ^

I was in the gridlock on I-75 last night for 12 hours, didn't make it home yesterday. Abandoned my car when the exit I was trying to take had a 6 car pileup.  Walked the rest of the way to my mom's house.  From work to my mom's house was 6 miles.  Had I tried to make it the additional 6 miles to my own house, I'd have been stuck until around noon today. 

The real issue was not so much the weather, but that every school, business, govt entity all shut down at the same time, and the mass exodus of people vastly exceeded the capacity of the roads.  Couple that with inevitable accidents from cars spinning out and otherwise not knowing how to drive in ice and snow, and we had a logjam that was so dense none of the emergency vehicles were able to navigate through to respond and keep the lanes clear. 

The result was an unmitigated disaster, but the weather was more of a catalyst than the primary cause. 

thumpinman

January 29th, 2014 at 8:57 PM ^

It took me 18 hours to get from Alpharetta to the airport. It was like a seen from an apocalyptic movie. 18 hours of pure hell. But God took care of me and I pray for all who's life was interrupted with this mess!

jazzy85

January 30th, 2014 at 1:58 PM ^

Yet another post crowded with Northern imbeciles! Still talking about "a few inches of snow" when smart people have already concluded that the ICE (both on the roads and -- admittedly -- on the brains of local/state leaders) is the real problem. But this is precisely why I took the liberty of compiling the following recent news headlines. For all the enlightened Northern snow pro's, I wanted to highlight just how “inferior” and “incompetent” we Southerners are when it comes to driving in icy and snowy conditions. Feast your eyes, my friends, as you see these Southerners-who-can’t-drive-in-snow sliding all over the roads and mangling vehicles like they were plastic Tonka toys!

Sad stories, but when you take a look at them, the great idiocy unfolds in your skewed Northern superiority ideologies.

Love Always,

Intelligent Southerner You Love to Hate

P.S. In case you missed the joke, these stories and images are of YOU! The Northern and Midwestern people so highly skilled in driving on ice...you people who can "handle" a little bit of snow. (Note that none of the images feature several feet of snow, but rather about the same amount -- or less -- than we got in Atlanta this week.)

End rant.

 

jazzy85

January 30th, 2014 at 1:54 PM ^

Well, this cheesy site didn't like the links I was trying to post.  Maybe if I share just a few at a time...

 

Michigan Snow, Ice Cause Hundreds of Crashes, 1 Death

http://www.wunderground.com/news/michigan-snow-ice-cause-hundreds-crash…

New York Car Pile-Up Latest in Series of Icy Crashes (Dec. 9, 2013)
http://abcnews.go.com/US/york-car-pile-latest-series-icy-crashes/story?id=21149855


Black Ice Causes 21-Car Pileup in Brooklyn: NYPD (Dec. 18, 2013)
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...te-Weather-Tuesday-December-17-236075411.html


Northeast Snow Triggers Accidents in Pennsylvania
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/snow-returns-to-new-england-at/21381231

jazzy85

January 30th, 2014 at 2:01 PM ^

All up and down the eastern sea board...all up in the Midwest. Dagnamit, why can't these "Southerners" hold it in da road?!?!

Ha!

NJ Roads Turn Icy; Fatal Crash in Pine Hill

http://nj1015.com/nj-roads-turn-icy-fatal-crash-in-pine-hill/

Winter weather returns to central Maine
Storm drops fresh snow making roads slippery as colder weather approaches
http://www.kjonline.com/news/Winter_weather_returns_to_central_Maine_.html