James Franklin wishes other B1G schools and Notre Dame would allow Penn State to move on.

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Not sure if yardbarker is banned or not, but they posted an article where Franklin is quoted as saying:

" I'm in Chicago at a wedding of one of my former players and the most recent things (allegations that late Penn State football coach Joe Paterno was told that Sandusky abused children in the 1970s) come up. I spend all Friday and Saturday on the phone talking to all of our players because other schools are contacting them and telling them the NCAA is going to get involved again and impose more sanctions… The people we’re competing with – Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame – this is just not something they have to deal with. Although we want to move on, those other schools are not letting us move on."

He goes on to say... 

"Those programs as well as others know that and use that against us. We have that conversation with every single prospect. We don’t usually initiate it, but it’s coming from somewhere."

Does Harbaugh need to negatively recruit against PSU? No. Am I happy he does? Yes.

Here is to a thousand years of Penn State being trashed for allowing children to be raped on their campus by a football coach, and covering it up.

 

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Wolfman

June 30th, 2016 at 10:58 AM ^

Franklin,depending how you look at it, is lucky to be head man at a power 5 school after perhaps the most horrific, heinous sexual crimes toward children committed by a high ranking member of that staff. Further, his actions, prior to his arrest had come to the attention of what, at one time, was one of the most venerable head coaches in the history of this game. That man, Joe Paterno, in a move based on greed and to protect his legacy, failed to report any incidents that had come to his attention up until that time and any subsequent csc perpetrated by his assistant Jerry Sandusky. This decision can only be interpreted one way, based on an unblemished legacy of not only an unprecedented number of wins, but realized in a manner to which all other programs should aspire. These very actions assured such wishes would produce the exact opposite effect and rightfully so. Initially, he was forced to forfeit 111 wins later, for reasons inexplicable to this reader, the NCAA decided to reinstate the 111 wins.

What should have happened, an immediate report to police, dismissal of Sandusky from the university while the justice system ran its course. It was clear that the actions of Sandusky were unforgiveable. The conspiracy and subsequent coverup of Joe Paterno should have likewise earned him immediate dismissal by the President of the university and, at a minimum, all victories realized subseqent to Paterno gaining knowledge of the crime forfeited, and not unlike Sandusky, prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Last season PSU lost to Memphis by 2, NW by 2 and GA by 7. he lost three more games, one each to OSU, MSU and UM by a combined score of 121-42, with MSU dishing out the biggest thrashing. He has accussed them all of slander, ironically by the use of slander itself. Proof of misinformation on the part of the accused, the four schools named above, must be present in order to be a prosecuteable offense. Absence of such in this case makes Franklin, ironically guilty of the exact crime he is attempting to use to, not unlike former Head Coach Joe Paterno, bring about results that he stands not a chance in hell of obtaining and for which we all should be thankful. 

What the idiot - in this case at least, fails to realize, is that the Big X is doing him a favor by allowing him to remain head coach and  the school itself to remain a member of a Power 5 conference,. II would find it a deriliction of duty on the part of conference coaches to not warrn prospective PSU recruits of the nature, duration and disposition of crimes committed by former assistant and attempted coverup by then head coach, Joe Paterno. 

If he finds this negative recruiting offensive, he should view it for what it is. None of the teams listed need to engage in negative recruiting to gain an advantage on the football field. All do, however, by the nature of their positions, have an obligation to the conference to protect its interests in both a legal and moral sense and unlike Franklin, who is trying to rebuild a program to its status prior to an offense that should have led to its dismissal from association with all NCAA sanctioned events, these coaches are acting well within their rights to have this university removed from the conference. 

He is basically paddling up shit creek without toilet paper while the others owe him nor that university a thing unless directed to do so by the conference President who, by so doing, would be violating the terms of his employmet. 

So welcome Franklin to PSU and the traditions of Nittanly Lion football including sexual offender(s), his conspirators, disgraced legacy of fomer Lion Head Coach Joe Paterno, and these are but a few, and just why in  the Hell should the rest of the conference feel sorry for a position you accepted willingly? 

beedub93

June 30th, 2016 at 9:54 AM ^

The people Penn State is competing with didn't have a head coach keep a child rapist on staff from countless years.

Fuck the whole lot of them. Boo fucking hoo, James.



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Dubs

June 30th, 2016 at 10:00 AM ^

My problem with this isn't the fact that Franklin wants people to "let it go," it's the fact that he's saying this when Penn State is still in denial about what transpired there for 3 decades.
How is the public supposed to let something go when your institution and fanbase haven't even owned up to it?

NittanyFan

June 30th, 2016 at 10:16 AM ^

There is a difference between University leadership and students/alums/fans.

University leadership in the post November 2011 period did all of the following: (1) remove all of JoePa, Curley and Spanier from their jobs within the story's first 100 hours, (2) commission the Freeh Report within 10 days of the story breaking, (3) publicly release the full Report (take not Baylor) the following summer, (4) accept its findings, (5) take down the Paterno statue immediately thereafter, and (6) not fight or threaten to sue the NCAA when the penalties came down.

If the Paterno statue ever goes back up, your statement would be fair.  But I'm one alum who is VERY confident that will NEVER happen.

KungFury

June 30th, 2016 at 10:37 AM ^

You're giving them way too much credit. The firings are obvious first moves to save face. The Freeh report is standard procedure. They had to release the report because they don't have private status saving them like it did Baylor. The statue went down after tons of bad press and a public backlash. It's not like they said oh shit and got rid of it on their own. They could have sued the NCAA because they technically didn't break written rules, but they still strong armed them out of fully enforcing them. Threat of lawsuit is why the sanctions were lifted, not because they learned their lesson. By the way, good luck finding a conference to call home or teams to play you if you sue the NCAA over that...



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NittanyFan

June 30th, 2016 at 10:50 AM ^

I'm sorry, but I don't think that's an accurate portrait of reality.  What leverage did Penn State have there???

As you may remember, one of the portions of the consent decree was an independent monitor (George Mitchell) being on campus and issuing quarterly reports as regards how things were going in the post consent decree period.  

Those reports are public record, they were issued throughout the July 2012-2015 period.  If one reads them, they will find that Penn State leadership was generally praised for their actions/behavior in the November 2011-2015 period.  

(whatever happened pre-November 2011 is a different story, but that is what is it is)

Now, maybe Mitchell is lying, or part of a conspiracy himself.  Who knows?  But he said what he said.  And those reports, more than anything else, were the basis for the partial sanctions rollback.

PSU was never threatening a lawsuit against the NCAA.  It is/was the Paternos and a Pennsylvania lawmaker that sued the NCAA: PSU was not a plantiff in either lawsuit.

KungFury

June 30th, 2016 at 11:20 AM ^

I don't know how you can think the NCAA would reduce any sanctions aside from possibility of a lawsuit. The leverage they have is that the NCAA didn't have the right or the precedent to lay down the punishments that it did. This going to court would put egg on the face of penn state and the NCAA. Maybe it was just the NCAA being proactive and realizing that they put themselves in a bad spot, but history shows they aren't the sharpest crayons in the box.



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NittanyFan

June 30th, 2016 at 11:49 AM ^

they specifically mentioned the George Mitchell/independent monitor reports as regards the actions of post-November 2011 Penn State leadership.

Take that for what it's worth.  Fair enough if you take it to be worth nothing.  But Penn State was never going to sue the NCAA, there was no threat of that.

RGard

June 30th, 2016 at 5:28 PM ^

Penn State submitted the Freeh Report as the answer to the letter Emmert sent them.  The interim and current leadership there worked with Mitchell to get things fixed.

The problem is the alumni-elected trustees who want to make everybody on the planet apologize to  Penn State for how horribly everybody on the planet treated poor Joe Paterno.

I'm glad you aren't in that boat, but there are a lot of engaged Penn State alums who are in serious denial, vote and then give assholes like Lubrano a platform to say stupid shit.

M-Dog

June 30th, 2016 at 11:00 AM ^

This is all true.

But as someone who grew up in a Penn State family, I would say that they need to keep re-enforcing it, or they will pay the consequences.

Make it clear that the statue is never going back up.  Don't parse words when new facts are revealed like they recently did.  Don't try to deny anything that happened.  

We all know what happened, and it was bad.

The sooner they publically divorce themselves from Paterno's legacy in word and deed, the better.

He seriously betrayed Penn State.  Penn State owes him nothing.

And publically tell the Paterno family:  "Shut the fuck up, you've done enough damage.  We are done trying to protect your stained legacy."

 

 

 

ldevon1

June 30th, 2016 at 10:01 AM ^

But it looks like he is saying it's tough enough to compete with OSU, UM, MSU, and ND, without thosed distractions and schools like those schools using it  to negatively recruit against them. Sounds like the writer is trying to guide you down that road to say those schools are specifically using those things in recruiting. 

mgoblue0970

June 30th, 2016 at 10:37 AM ^

No, I don't think you're reading it wrong.  I thought that too. 

It's a nice wag to dog of not being accountable for their behavior and blaming others instead.

Does M, et al., really need to negatively recruit against Penn State?  I'd be shocked if that is happening as much as this article seems to suggest.

EGD

June 30th, 2016 at 10:06 AM ^

Minnesota was a powerhouse football program in the 1930s and 40s--since then, not so much. Michigan State was excellent in the 1950s and 60s; they've been good again lately, but really did not have much in the way of sustained success throughout the 40 or so years in between. The service academies used to be dominant football programs, as did East Coast institutions like Syracuse and Pitt.

So, just because Penn State was a big-time program for decades under JoePa, there is no guarantee they will regain their former status--or that it won't take decades, if it does happen. Franklin seems to think his program is on par with M and OSU and MSU, and that recruits should regard it as such. But right now, I'm not sure Penn State is on par with Rutgers.

LSAClassOf2000

June 30th, 2016 at 10:07 AM ^

"The people we’re competing with – Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame – this is just not something they have to deal with. Although we want to move on, those other schools are not letting us move on."

Especially because Penn State has a frightening inability to learn the lesson and move on themselves, there's no reason to let them. They seem as if they will never learn, and for their inaction and then their attempt to portray themselves as the victim by others and now Franklin, they should be forever reminded of what their athletics culture enabled. So that such a human disaster is hopefully mitigated in the future, they should be reminded of it.

Move on? No, I don't think so. Not after they allowed that to happen. 

gustave ferbert

June 30th, 2016 at 10:09 AM ^

They had very harsh and deserved sanctions come down that were lifted after a season. . .and more evidence has come out demonstrating that those sanctions shouldn't have been lifted.

 

Franklin should be thankful that he gets an opportunity to defend his program instead of trying to field a team with a bunch of fucking walk ons from Monroeville. . ..

KungFury

June 30th, 2016 at 10:32 AM ^

I don't think the sanctions were lifted because anybody thought that Penn State suffered enough or had learned their lesson. The sanctions were lifted because the NCAA realized that there are no explicit rules that they broke and because of that they don't have the power to hand down punishments that drastic based on a rule book.



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WolverineHistorian

June 30th, 2016 at 10:09 AM ^

My 'fuck Notre Dame' mantra that I've been living by for so many years has been getting overshadowed by my more recent 'fuck Penn State' mantra.

I'm not joining any pity party for PSU. They brought all this negative attention on themselves and they can go fuck themselves.



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Indiana Blue

June 30th, 2016 at 10:10 AM ^

the comments just recycle and there is nothing new.   Anyone that was a part of that is dead or gone and the ass is rotting in jail.  We have so many great things happenning in Michigan football ... but someone weekly wants to bring up this dead body so everyone can take out their bats and take another whack at it.  yeah .. its replusive but bringing it up week after week makes the blog look more like RCMB than MGoBlog ...

Go Blue!

SharkyRVA

June 30th, 2016 at 10:38 AM ^

I had to sign in just to say, Fuck Penn St! I will never miss an opportunity to say it. Fuck Penn St. I feel fantastic now.

Maizenblueball

June 30th, 2016 at 10:42 AM ^

I think it's such BS that Penn State only got a slap on the wrist, considering how horribly they behaved. If there is ever a reason to give a program the death penalty, I'd argue that PSU committed heinous acts that warrant the death penalty of their football program.

ghostofhoke

June 30th, 2016 at 10:58 AM ^

It's probably time to put the statue back up. That would be the sign to the world that they've moved on. Handle this yourself Penn St. don't ask others to change their behaviors simply because you are fine with letting little kids get raped on your campus with your consent.



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