coastal blue

November 28th, 2011 at 2:04 PM ^

loss to Michigan in 2007?

Honestly, I'm all for going toe-to-toe with Urban Meyer. I think Hoke has shown this year he is the type of guy you want in a challenge. But this ridiculous notion that Meyer somehow can't coach when he is 7-1 in Bowl Games, went undefeated at Utah, won 2 National Championships in 4 years at Florida with two different sets of recruits is bordering on delustional denial, as if some of you are trying to comfort your own fears of the guy with false reasoning. 

Wolverman

November 28th, 2011 at 3:17 PM ^

 Nobody is saying he can't coach. People are saying he relied HEAVILY on his assistants when they where'nt with Meyer his offense looked terrible. His lack of faith in his assistant coaches at Florida was one of the reasons he  worked the 20 hour day and eventually "retired". Urban is not a bad coach at all and probably is the best hire froma PR stand point , but the Buckeyes have set themselves up for HUGE disappointment .

 With pending sanctions from the NCAA , high exspectations and a coach who does'nt handle failure that well , seems like a great recipe for failure. On the espn boards buckeye fans are talking about a national championship NEXT YEAR. chance are they won't even be eligible for a NC next year.

 Urban will be gone well before his contract at OSU expires. You don;t pay a man 40 million over 7 years (or whatever his contract will be) to go 8-4 , 7-5 , 9-3 with 2 or 3 losses to Michigan

coastal blue

November 28th, 2011 at 5:48 PM ^

and that his success was based solely on:

Tim Tebow (Even though he won a NC with Chris Leak and went undefetead at Utah without him)

Greg Mattison (Even though he won a NC without Greg Mattison and went undefeated with Utah without him)

If you haven't said that, that's fine. I'm just saying give credit where credit is due. I've seen people on this site say he is "overrated" and that we have nothing to worry about because of one bowl game in 2007. While I'm not scared of Urban Meyer coaching Ohio, assuming he actually hangs around (Who knows when he might get the urge to coach Notre Dame afer Kelly disappoints for a few more years) it is the best move Ohio could have made to rebound from this season and remain competitive going into the future, sanctions and expectations be damned. 

In fact...While some Ohio fans will delusionally tell themselves they can win a national championship next year, most will probably take 9-10 wins. I can't see Meyer not delivering that. Comparing what he'll walk into at OSU to our big name hire in Rodriguez...he's actually got it made. 6-6 the year before instead of 9-4. Instead of graduating everyone, he gets most of the key guys back. At the most important position, he's got a quarterback who has all the tools to thrive in his system. The defense returns a bunch of starters and had a lot of youth this year. I imagine he could have a Hoke-like season with one more crucial loss. 

UncleLeo

November 28th, 2011 at 7:49 AM ^

This was already as official as unofficial could be for the past week...good for them, he's a good coach, but right now I couldn't care less because we won!

Mr. Rager

November 28th, 2011 at 8:29 AM ^

A buddy of mine is an FSU fan and he mentions this all the time.  According to him the most insane of the arrests was when a Florida player was using a stolen credit card.

Said credit card belonged to the dead girlfriend of a dead teammate.  

 

Steve T

November 28th, 2011 at 7:51 AM ^

I think he'll do well at Ohio and with the coaching staff and players/recruits that we have in place this rivalry is going to be pushed back to the forefront of college football.  As much fun as it is to watch Ohio struggle; when they are at their best it is good for Michigan.

_DG7_goblue

November 28th, 2011 at 7:51 AM ^

Big ten back in track. Meyer will run a clean program and establish more cred to the big ten, especially with all the shit going on recently. I'm looking forward to kicking his ass though

Ponypie

November 28th, 2011 at 9:15 AM ^

Jermaine Cunningham:

 

Team punishment: Cunningham played in Florida's next game, the Capital One Bowl, but Meyer said he imposed physical punishment on Cunningham, who also couldn't accept bowl-game gifts.

I hesitate to speculate, and leave it to others to do so, on the content of said punishment.

UncleLeo

November 28th, 2011 at 8:01 AM ^

Mainly just curious as I've seen this sentiment posted quite a lot, here and on other sites, but how exactly did Meyer get labeled as a guy who will run a clean program? I seem to remember quite a few Florida players being arrested and whatnot under his watch, most of them barely getting a slap on the wrist...not exactly a model program in my opinion.

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010/09/15/florida-has-had-30-arrests-under-urban-meyer-more-than-one-for-every-two-wins/

MI Expat NY

November 28th, 2011 at 8:58 AM ^

I would guess it comes from a different definition of the word "clean."  People know about the arrests and lack of discipline, but if you consider "clean" and "dirty" only in terms of NCAA regulations, a case can be made.  Florida was one of the two main schools in the SEC against over-signing.  And there hasn't really been a whiff of pay-for-play scandals at Florida in the last 25 years.  Now, this being the SEC I would guess you have to be a little naive to think Florida is totally clean, and when Spurrier took over Florida was under heavy NCAA sanctions.  But, as far as perception goes, I think Florida is far down the list of potential SEC cheaters.

UncleLeo

November 28th, 2011 at 9:40 AM ^

I definitely understand that. I suppose Florida/Meyer has been 'clean' at least as far as NCAA rules/violations/etc in the recent past. I guess I just can't personally see a program with 30 arrests in five years as being truely clean. Or, more importantly, the head coach responsible for those teams as being labeled a bastion of good, clean, college athletics.