The fact that Peppers is already so high on the depth chart so early is remarkable, could this guy really be a Charles Woodson clone?
Fall Camp Presser 8-20-14: Brady Hoke
News bullets and other items:
Today’s starting offensive line would be Mason Cole- LT; Erik Magnuson- LG; Jack Miller- C; Burzynski/Bosch/Kalis- RG; Ben Braden- RT
Jabrill Peppers will start at nickel but has picked up the defense fast enough that he’s taking some snaps at boundary corner
Hoke can’t remember Devin Funchess dropping a single pass in fall camp which, like, eeeeee
Derrick Green and DeVeon Smith are considered the downhill backs, while Drake Johnson and Justice Hayes are the third-down backs
Preparation for that game on the 30th against that one team begins Thursday
Brady Hoke “Well,…” count: 6
"Thanks for coming out. I think we haven't spoken to each other since Saturday. We've had good practices, good energy, good competition. I think that's one thing we've talked about every time is to compete and challenge each other and I think this team has done that. I think there's leadership throughout the team in all classes which has been good to see. If you're good enough, you're old enough and that's been part of what we talked about. I think that's very good. Starting to get...we are starting to get prepared for Appalachian State here in the next couple days. We'll do some things with switch [?] teams and really have some good competition with that part of it and also keep the speed of how we want to play the game, so there will always be situational ones on ones, twos on twos. Tomorrow is Tuesday, the next day is Wednesday and Saturday is a Thursday how we look at it and next week we'll take Sunday and do some walk-throughs, get the tape reviewed. Next Tuesday will be a Tuesday, Wednesday will be a Wednesday, and Thursday will be Thursday so you've got to figure it out on my end sometimes. But it's been a good camp. I guess we'll break on Saturday morning – about 1 PM on Saturday after we go up to the stadium, have a good practice there. We'll do a lot of game rehearsal things, trying to put the players in situations that they will be in. I think that's important. So… excited. I think we're all excited. Are we ready? Not yet, so we have a lot of work ahead of us but at the same time I like how we go about our business every day."
You said this was the day you start preparing for App State. Do you have a set offensive line?
“Well, I think there's still some competition but I think Ben Braden has been a very steady performer at right tackle. I think Mason Cole has been very, very steady at the left tackle position. I always get asked – not just by you guys but Mason Cole, you don't notice him so you don't notice any mistakes. He's not a guy who's been a guy who killed plays and that's the kind of stuff… Jack will be the center, Kugler will back him up. We'll be without Graham as you all know. Mags will be the left guard if we were playing today and at the right guard I think there's good competition. Joe Burzynski, Kyle Bosch, Kalis is getting work at both guards, he's just getting back into things yesterday so I think we're still– I have an idea, but I don't think we're set at that right guard position right now.”
What did the film from Saturday show you as far as the offensive line goes?
“You know, there were some holes and there were some holes we have to take advantage of and there's also times where the back’s got to make it right, you know, quarterback drifting out of his ball handling knocks a back out of his A gap. We had some of those. Still not enough of them. We still got to move the line of scrimmage better and that's a constant that we'll have. I thought that yesterday the backs did a nice job. I think that Fred [Jackson] definitely had an effect on how they need to approach it and so I think we're making really good progress there.”
To clarify something from Saturday, did you say that in a 4-3 defense, your base, Jabrill [Peppers] would be a corner and then slide into the nickel spot?
“Yeah, I mean he would slide inside. We're going to really try and make sure that he’s set at the nickel before we get too far out there being a boundary corner. I mean, we played him at boundary corner some the other night with the first group. There's some things that are different when you're playing one-third than when you're playing a nickel position so right now, yes, he's playing some corner but we are going to focus in on nickel with him in there.”
You said that you wanted him just to be practicing in one position to get really comfortable there. What have you seen out of him that you feel comfortable, obviously, giving him more responsibility?
“Well, he's learned fast. I think the way he's engrossed himself in the playbook. I think from a fundamental/technique standpoint he's come a long way. Just think he's done a nice job overall.”
[After THE JUMP: sorting out the running back situation, Devin Gardner’s leadership, and my inaugural MGoQuestion]
You said there were some holes that were missed there by the running backs. You watch the film and you had an order going in on Saturday. Is that still the same and is that even close to being set as far as who's your guy at running back?
“Well, I think when you look at our backs all of them have done a nice job. There are improving, I think they're getting better. When you look at third-down situations Drake [Johnson] and Justice [Hayes] both’ve done a nice job. Derek [Green] and DeVeon [Smith], from getting downhill, both of them we have to keep improving with.
Is it sort of split? Derrick and DeVeon are the downhill guys, Drake and Justice are the…
“Yes, even though Drake had some really powerful things yesterday.”
When you look at Devin and what he's done in this camp and you went in with expectations of what you wanted to see from him. Where has he shown the most growth?
“I think, you know, how he's taking the offense. I think from that standpoint getting us in good plays. Being a little more assertive at the line of scrimmage when you look at MIKE points and motivating guys. His demeanor has been really positive when things aren’t going well which is good because body language, I think there's a lot to that.”
Confidence you had talked about as a thing you wanted to see from him. Is that a consistent thing?
“Yeah, I think so. I think it really has. I really think and I think we all think him and Shane have a lot of confidence. I think by the 30th he’ll have even more.”
Have you made a decision yet on walk-ons getting scholarships?
When are captains going to be decided?
“Sometime here… I'll go back to my statement. I think we got great leadership throughout our team. A lot of guys on board with.”
You talk about competition on the offensive line, a lot of guys could be starting for the first time. What have you seen through camp and who’s the strongest person you’ve seen so far on the offensive line?
“Well, it depends what you look at. You look at consistency, I think Jack's been pretty dag on consistent. Magnuson has been consistent. I'd say Mason Cole but they've all worked extremely hard and they've all improved themselves since the beginning of fall camp.”
And in the grand Heikoian tradition, the season’s first…
MGoQuestion: from a schematic standpoint, are the safety roles similar or they significantly different?
“Well, depends. It really depends and you get in subpackages or just a base package and so with Jarrod [Wilson] and Jeremy [Clark] right now being the two guys who are out there…again, and I think both of them of had a good camp so far. There's a little bit of differences but depending on the package it changes a little bit.”
Is Ray Taylor getting a little bit of a look at safety right now?
“No. It's how schematically that defense lines up.”
We saw in the scrimmage on Saturday that Devin Funchess had a couple of really nice catches but that was never a problem for him last year, making the great catch, it was more the consistent every-catch. How has he done in terms of the ones he should be catching, is he catching?
“You know, I can't remember a whole lot where he hasn't done a good job catching the football this fall camp. I'll go back – you know, we chart drops and all that stuff but I don't remember any offhand right now.”
Can you talk about the defensive line a little bit in terms of pass rush. Are you starting to see what you wanted to?
“I think on the outside. I think our outside rushers have done a nice job. I think the interior rushers, we need to get more push. And we've challenged them for that. They done a good job working on being a little better fundamentally but Willie Henry has stepped up a little bit and Ryan Glasgow was playing very good in the middle.”
Guys we haven't heard a lot about – Tom Strobel, Henry Poggi?
“Poggi’s getting a lot of snaps and he's been… you can see the improvement and I would say Tommy the same. Tommy's a very intense guy so we are pleased with his progress.”
When Graham’s [Glasgow] back does he move back into the middle spot?
“I think that's one possibility but I'm not going to say that's what's going to happen.”
I just had a question to clarify: is Doug going to be on the field or…
“He'll be on the field.”
The wide receiver group, it's competitive. Do you think a guy like Maurice Ways is going to be able to contribute this year?
“He's a guy that we’re looking at as to where his fit will be this year. You know, I don't think we made a decision. He’s gotten some snaps with the second group and third group. Hasn't gotten a whole lot of snaps with the first group but I think he's a guy where it's still up in the air what we are going to do with him.”
With 10 days to go until the game how much better can a young offensive line get between the scrimmage on Saturday to two weeks from now?
“Well, I think there's a lot they learned from Saturday and we're going to continue to put a lot of pressure on them and a lot of stress on them. So far defensively it's usually that way and I think, you know, because of the experience that we have on defense with older guys and leadership the defense has been ahead and Greg doesn't make it easy for them. I mean, they're not just sitting there in a 4–3. There's linebackers coming all over the place and that can slow you down a little bit but at the same time they have started, in my opinion, really – because the communication when we put stress on them, Glick gets pretty loud. Watching them communicate with each other, talk to each other, there's a significant improvement.”
If he was a Woodson clone it's actually discouraging because not even Woodson was Woodson his freshman year. He was a perfectly serviceable corner, but not the monster plucking throwaways out of the air against MSU. If our starters are getting pushed by a "serviceable" true freshman, that raises my eyebrow.
But that could be unwarranted concern. Hoke seems to be saying they'll start Peppers at nickel anyway, but they're already starting the transition to boundary corner because he's able to handle the extra pressure. That gives them more control over his timetable. I actually believe our corners are good, so this is more like an opulent luxury -- we're starting Peppers at nickel because we can, but it also makes sense to give him boundary corner snaps as soon as possible if he's going to wind up there. I really don't see him taking snaps at boundary corner being forced by any sort of need.
However, this damages my prediction that Peppers eventually winds up at FS. How will I cope?
I'd certainly say it's an unwarranted concern, based on what we know right know. "Serviceable" experienced corners are being pushed aside by younger guys, and I'd suggest that's a good reason for optimism with this group. We know what we have with the experienced guys, if they get beat out by better talent, it can only mean an upgrade and true depth in the secondary.
Woodson stated his second game as a true freshmen, and the rest of the year...
I remember being at The Game when an interception sealed the win. Woodson was almost completely behind the receiver and just out jumped the WR and took the ball. So Woodson was baiting QBs as a freshman, like Blake was as a redshirt sophomore.
I think that they want Jabrill at corner, but there is less to learn at nickel. Now that he has learned Nickel he is learning corner. He won't start at corner because there is good talent there with more experience. I also think that the Nickel might be an easier spot t bring a blitz from, and Peppers size with his speed, makes him a nice asset for that also.
I happen to look over at a certain point during the scrimmage and see Peppers taking a few snaps, and I found myself wondering what type of player he might be. His potential. Uh, odds are he is probably your basic, Big Ten, lockdown cornerback. But I sort of think, well, maybe he's an All-American, maybe the next Charles Woodson. Maybe he's something really cool that I don't even know about.
Uh, what's a "basic" Big Ten lockdown cornerback? Lockdown corners are "basic" in the sense that they make the DC's job much easier, but it's not like you pluck these guys off the shelf at your local Qwik-E-Mart.
at the Quik-.E-Mart, but I'm sure they have them.
Behind the milk? I always wondered what's behind there. But the one in the back has an expiration date of 3/13/74 so I'm scared to touch it.
Watch his senior highlight film again and tell me exactly what is "basic" about him and his abilities. I'm not suggesting that he's the next CW, but he's undoubtedly a freak athlete with almost no ceiling to his potential. Whether that potential is realized on the field remains to be seen; however, there's nothing basic about him.
What?! I thought we were in the trust tree!
nice reference. great movie. the replies clearly missed it.
Perfectly done, went over the heads of several MGoUsers but I laughed.
I haven't seen "Old School", managed to find the quote by Googling "trust tree". I'm guessing it's no "Animal House".
I thought we were still in the nest...are we not?
But I thought we were in the trust tree...
There's only one CW. However, having seen a little of both now as freshmen, I'd say Peppers is an even better athlete at this stage. At least he's more developed, not just physically but in his coverage skills coming in. What remains to be seen is if Jabrill has the same kind of ball instincts and knack for game-changing plays that Sir Charles did. Either way, I'm really pumped to see his impact for Michigan this season.
Was the first Jabrill Peppers.
How do I explain Jabrill Peppers so far??
"He has Charles Woodson CB Size and Ability, may even be better than Charles at this point in their careers as Freashmen at Michigan. (Gets excited starts to wiggle a little) He has Neon Deon Sanders speed Man! and will light you up like Ray Lewis! Whoooooo! He is something!"
If at some point it's more important to get the o line settled and repo if together than it is to have competition.
Unfortunately, I think Kalis's injury and Glasgow's suspension (and also possible foot/ankle boo boo) complicate things greatly. If they are obviously better than everyone else when healthy and available, I think you can play around a little bit with the guys filling in to make sure you have the best back up in there for the time being with the understanding that things are going to change. I don't think you'd hold out a guy that's clearly better when he's available for the sake of chemistry, but there does probably come a point where it's a tough decision if a guy isn't head and shoulders above his backup.
I guess the lack if stability makes me gunshy after all the line manipulation they did last year. I think part if last years problem was the musical linemen.
Kalis' injury and Glasgow's suspension definitely complicate matters.
I'm encouraged that when asked if Glasgow moves "back into the middle spot" when he's back from suspension, Hoke answered:
"I think that's one possibility but I'm not going to say that's what's going to happen."
Miller at C has been one of my greatest fears. If Glasgow plays C, and if Kalis' back holds up so he can play RG, then I'm going to be a happy camper. Well, a relatively happy camper . . . .
I'm slightly concerned that they haven't got a definite five locked in place. But as the above commentor stated, it's possible that Glasgow's impending suspension and Kalis' boo boo are messing things up right now. That cluster fu$# of an O line last year has most people edgy in this area of the team. Not being able to state that five guys have seperated and taken control of the starting spots can only raise questions/concerns. I'm optimistic that Kalis will be back in there, if not already as I'm typing this. Glasgow will come back and possibly replace Miller or one of the guards. Either way I just want them to find five they are confident in and then have those five develop and get better as the season goes on.
"MGoQuestion: from a schematic standpoint, are the safety roles similar or they significantly different?"
And he's on the board! Nice work.
And here I thought the guy who posts bikini shots of his wife as his avatar couldn't get creepier.
I know my avatar really bugs you given the 1,241 comments (more or less) you've made about it through the years but you really need to let go of whatever issues you've got with me.
Life's too short to let something silly like that bother you.
Good job on your first question. Hoke also did a pretty good job not answering it.
He's got to work on that. I'm pleased with the effort so it'll probably get better over time. He just needs reps reps reps. :)
a non-answer answer like that, you can tell this guy's gonna be a four year starter...
I am very surprised by the "Well" to Question ratio, a little disappointed in fact. Hopefully as the season goes on it is closer 1:1 ratio.
Hoke says "well?"
If there was any question that this site has gone all in with "we're replacing thoughtful analysis with obnoxious snarkiness" as its guiding principle, that's it.
Well, I think it's funny.
One line in an entire presser transcript. Please clarify exactly what content was replaced, or how thoughtful analysis has now completely vanished from the site due to a one-line add-on.
I'm mildly amused by it, but even if I thought it was the devil's tax return I'd have a hard time getting worked up over a tack-on that doesn't even change my scrolling habits.
Have you ever transcribed a 15-minute-long interview? Soul-crushing work. Let the guy have a little fun.
Do you try to look for ways to not enjoy life and laugh a little or does it just come naturally to you?
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We need our coaches to step forward and take on a leadership role. We still have a long way to go, but I'm impressed by the effort they've put in, and the competitiveness. Obviously we want more "well", and there are no excuses given the expectations we have, and we will fix it. It starts with the coaches, of course, but everyone throughout the organization. Sorry, what was your question again?
Rappin Ronnie Reagan! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY74spUHUfM
Could always run that Stanford formation from a few years ago
My question would be, at this point in camp are you disappointed that you dont have a starting 5 named for the Offensive line, especially with all the concerns about the offensive line this off season.
I can't give you the starting five for the regular season yet because 1) it depends on Kalis's health. I'm not completely sure who his back-up would be and 2) since Glasgow isn't even playing the first game, we're not going to be playing with our regular season line until game 2 and that's if Kalis is back.
So instead of talking about players, who will play until we get our regular season line back, like they're not here, I'll just continue to be vague in all my answers. I mean, would it do anybody any good to tell you we know Miller is not that good but he's the next best option until Glasgow is done serving his penalty. Would that inspire confidence in this young man? And would it behoove the team to let our opponents know we have a weak spot in our point of attack?
So I think I'll just stick to my vague answers. But thanks for coming out.
That, he may have known who the starters are for the past 3 weeks, just didn't want to let everybody else know....the fort....
Or maybe he's actually good. Geez people, I was as down on Miller for his performance last year as anyone, but this isn't last year. You can't on one hand say that it's better to have upper classmen as OL but discount the possibility that a kid actually got better from his RS SO to RS JR years. The guy has been a constant at center since camp started, is it really that hard to believe that he might just have worked hard and improved?