Anonymous B1G Bball Coach Discusses Michigan's Weaknesses

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Here is the full link: http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/02/20/acc-big-ten-big-12-scou…

 

The nugget on Michigan is about halfway down. The most brutal parts are highlighted:

 

"Michigan: “Obviously they’re not great defensively, but they’re confident they can score against you. [Junior forward D.J.] Wilson and [sophomore forward Moritz] Wagner have emerged as premiere players. If [senior guard Duncan] Robinson is in the game you want to attack him defensively. Everybody knows that. Sometimes [senior guard Derrick] Walton just coasts on defense. The point of attack is where your defense has to be at its best. You have to keep Walton out of the paint. He can shoot it, but he does most of his damage when he’s breaking your defense down. If they’re not making shots, I don’t think they can beat good teams. Everybody that starts can make shots for them. [Senior guard] Zak Irvin is having a down year. He’s not shooting the ball as well. People have been keying on him a little more and making him take tough twos. I love Wilson, but he’s not a tough kid. I’ve seen guys punk him and he didn’t fight back. They’re real soft defensively. I just think they have to spend so much time and energy getting that offense to work that they don’t have a lot of time to work on defense. There’s nobody who runs better pick-and-roll offense than John Beilein. They get guys eight or 10 points who don’t deserve to score.”

 

MOD EDIT - Initially took this down because that's what happens when I mod in the middle of a meeting where I don't have a chance to read, but upon reading the tab, a title change - as suggested in the Sticky - works better. My mistake. - LSA

SHub'68

February 22nd, 2017 at 3:43 AM ^

half the free throws that you did take. The Wilson quote about getting punked; it could explain how he can disappear some games. Maybe it takes him out of the game mentally - it's easy to lose your aggression when you're shown up physically. I'd speculate further and place the blame for it on the personality of the team. It's impossible to know it, but Wagner looked out of place last year quite a bit when he'd get all emotional on the court - almost as if the rest of the team was reacting like "What the hell are you doing? We don't do that here!" But Mo's force of personality just wouldn't be denied after a year in the mix: This year it's more like "Well I do, so deal." Just based on body language observed through the boob tube, so who knows? But next year he is likely to be have a prime impact on team personality from the start. A passive attitude may have impacted on Wilson more, made him develop a more tentative streak? Hell, according to Sam Webb on WTKA, at one point 'dog' was being ACTIVELY discouraged! Hopefully, playing alongside Wagner helps him. Speaking of Wagner, I really, really, really want to see Mo put on 20 or 30 lbs of muscle. He just gets powered right over in the post. Webb can say it was because you don't see much of the post game Happ was playing the other night, but Happ is not the only one to do that to him. Besides, a more muscular Wagner would be a really fun Wagner to watch on both ends of the court - even along the sidelines versus MSU and Indiana.

newfoundhbomb

February 21st, 2017 at 11:21 AM ^

seems pretty accurate to me.  Beilein recruits country club players, he doesn't recruit players that grew up on playgrounds in the streets or what most would call junk yard dogs.  he passes on talented players that might have some issues to run a clean mostly problem free program

Blue In NC

February 21st, 2017 at 11:24 AM ^

Um, how dare someone criticize our defense and toughness?  Isn't that completely accurate and what we have been hearing (and observing) all year?  That said, the coach also compliments several players and praises Beilen for the offense.  I think we all agree that this team is a bit soft and frankly not that talented.

Perkis-Size Me

February 21st, 2017 at 11:28 AM ^

This is an evisceration? Looks like a very accurate overview of our team to me. 

If this shit offends you, boy I don't know what to tell you except maybe you're just like everyone else in this country who throws their arms up in outrage anytime someone says, does, or tweets something that isn't 100% in line with that they think. 

 

Michifornia

February 21st, 2017 at 11:32 AM ^

It's criticism but seems pretty fair.  I think this team did look at itself in the mirror after the osu game, maybe it was Beilein's words as well.  But they have played a lot better since that loss.  Should have been four in a row.

I can't see Irvin doing anything different or helping the team other than by trying to play sound fundamental basketball (and not shoot jumpers).  The rest of the guys have been playing pretty hard and if we are to make the dance, we are playing about as well as we could hope for.  If we keep up the same intensity, we will get in.

GO BLUE!!

Wolverheel

February 21st, 2017 at 11:35 AM ^

Did you even read the fucking article? It specifically says this in the intro: 

"If you find that these reports are overly negative, that is my doing, not theirs. We already know these teams are good. I wanted to know their vulnerabilities, because that info can mean the difference between a second-round exit and a trip to the Final Four."

The lack of intelligence is just baffling.

 

BursleyBaitsBus

February 21st, 2017 at 11:42 AM ^

Kinda weird they put a Michigan review in the article along with Duke, Baylor and Virginia b/c Michigan is deff not like those other teams in terms of being good. 

 

stephenrjking

February 21st, 2017 at 11:57 AM ^

It's not weird; you just didn't read the piece. The article was part 1 of a series, which was written right at the top. The article featured comments on 7 B1G teams and 7 ACC teams and 4 Big 12 teams. There will be more articles with more comments about other teams. Frankly, all one needs to do to catch this is skim the article without reading it.

Wolverheel

February 21st, 2017 at 12:19 PM ^

And if I sound harsh, I meant to be. The BS that gets said on here against the basketball program is obnoxious on so many levels. I don't care if you're anti Beilein, I definitely can see why some people are. However, at least do us a favor and don't present that opinion by completely twisting the words of an article that says we're a good team.

Bocheezu

February 21st, 2017 at 11:37 AM ^

Everybody already knows that.  Our inside guys just aren't that strong and can get pushed around a lot.  Donnal looks like he's never lifted weights ever and Wagner looks like he just started lifting over the summer.  Wilson is skinny but not in terrible shape at the 4.  Minnesota had 3-4 guys built like brick shithouses out there.  It's hard to stand your ground and not foul when you are physically weaker than your opponent.

stephenrjking

February 21st, 2017 at 11:46 AM ^

This is nicer than the comment threads after a loss, I can say that. I came for "merciless evisceration" and got zingers like "Zak Irvin is having a down year." Ouch, man, that leaves a mark and is totally unfair except for the inconvenience that it is completely true. One might quibble about the Walton bit and the discussion about coaching time spent on offense vs defense seems hard to verify (though that exact accusation has been leveled at the staff on this board) but I don't see how this is unfair at all. And the idea that Michigan gets unequally targeted by these anonymous reports is absurd. The articles like this always discuss multiple teams and usually run either by conference or by tier. If someone thinks that because they've read a few of these on mgoblog that means Michigan is getting targeted, this means that the person isn't reading much and has a myopic perspective of sports journalism and nothing else.

stephenrjking

February 21st, 2017 at 6:02 PM ^

mattd (if that is the right guy) doesn't have any comments like that in his mgoblog history. There is one person who claims to have seen practices (or a practice, his story changed a bit and he was rather a jerk to everyone, so I tended to give him little credence) and claimed that Beilein was all O all the time. 

I was skeptical, but this is independent analysis suggesting that there's some meat there.

Champeen

February 21st, 2017 at 11:51 AM ^

Yeah, this is pretty spot on.  Anyone who even watches half our games and is even half way objective can see this.  This is really not being mean at all.  There are just as many positives thrown out as negatives IMO.

It is interesint to note that the coachs says the time it takes to invest in understanding this offense leaves little to spend on teaching the defensive end.  

But toughness?  There is a fairly large lack of it in most B-Line recruits.

BJNavarre

February 21st, 2017 at 11:58 AM ^

Seems like a pretty fair scouting report, and is complementary in spots.

I think earlier in the season Walton did coast on D. His effort level, along with a number of other Michigan players, has increased dramatically as the season has gone along. MAAR is the one that stands out the most as a guy that was REALLY coasting early in the season, and has now been playing with a lot of energy...maybe not all the time, but much more than in the past.

Still, lack of muscle inside and athleticism on the wings is this team's weak spots, imo, and he touches on some of that.

bronxblue

February 21st, 2017 at 12:04 PM ^

So basically "they shoot really well but aren't great defensively, and if they don't score enough points they lose games."  These quotes remind me that perhaps I picked the wrong profession to work in, since apparently all you need is a rudimentary understanding of sports to be an assistant coach on a D1 basketball team.

This is a flawed team, but you could say things equally as positive and negative about every other team in the country, as this article does.  It's...fine, in the way people need to fill digital inches and assistant coaches like to be catty off the record, so they'll prattle on about weaknesses of teams they've scouted a couple of times.

MeanJoe07

February 21st, 2017 at 12:06 PM ^

Wow, this is truly extreme verbal assault.  A total annihilation of Michigan basketball.  Even I walked away from this article with my tail between my legs.  I don't even have a tail.  Then what was between my legs!?!?

ABOUBENADHEM

February 21st, 2017 at 12:09 PM ^

I'd rate this year's MBB team a 4 out of 10, with 1 being the softest.  The Minny game was a game that a tough team wins, even despite the bad referees.  Part of the problem is we have no true "go to" scorer, ala Ethan Happ, that we can go to when we need offense, and that can force opposing defenses to overcompensate to cover.  We need us some Rooster Cogburn grit!

Stay.Classy.An…

February 21st, 2017 at 12:19 PM ^

But the article is exactly what we as a fanbase and everyone else has been saying, whether it's to our faces or behind our backs. The team is soft on D and if we don't shoot ~40% from 3, we are going to lose most games. I don't care if the opposing coach is butthurt or not, he is telling the truth. Now we are either going to completely flame out in the NCAA tourney in the first round, or make a Sweet 16 run that will have all the "talking heads" showering Coach B and his offense with praise.