Local vs National Recruiting
The Crawford / Corley commits got me thinking about national vs local recruiting. Harbaugh seems to have tilted towards national in a way that Hoke and even RR never did. Maybe someone who followed recruiting back in Carr days could compare.
I went through the current top 10 classes to see how each school did in state vs out of state. First number is commits from within state, second is class size.
1 LSU - 12 /20
2 Michigan - 1 / 24
3 OSU - 8 /18
4 FSU - 8 / 18
5 Georgeia - 12 / 16
6 Florida - 15 / 26
7 Ol Miss - 4 / 20
8 Alabama - 4 / 17
9 ND - 0 / 22
10 Auburn 4 / 17
I think whats apparent is that Michigan has a built in disadvantage of residing in a football poor state.
If I did a bit more work I think if you considered region Michigan would stand out even more. 1 from MI, 1 IL, 1 Wisconsin, 3 from Indiana, everyone else is from out of region. Even ND has more midwest kids.
It seems like the sights view Corley and Crawford as just about even. We don't know who Harbaugh thinks will be better. I'm no scout either. But philosophically speaking, I used to think tie breaker went to the local kid since 1) he'd get our rivalvies 2) it would keep him away from our rivals. My opinion is the opposite now, possibly skewed by watching Hoke reel in local kids and also not developing talent.
This might also just be an aberation, as I think we are targetting plenty of local kids in 2017.
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January 9th, 2016 at 9:15 PM ^
Michigan isn't devoid of talent, but it has nowhere near the level of talent that a state like California, Texas, Florida, or hell, even Ohio has.
If the best team Harbaugh can field means he recruits 2-3 instate kids a year, then so be it. I'm hope this doesn't sound cruel, but Harbaugh doesn't owe instate kids a damn thing. He was brought to Michigan to win titles. If a recruit from the state of Michigan can help him do that, then that's great. But I'd rather he get the best talent available, regardless of where it lives.
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January 9th, 2016 at 9:19 PM ^
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Corley and Crawford are different style players, IMO.
Corley is a big play outside WR type and Crawford, IMO, is a dangerous slot WR.
Corley, IMO, should have the better stats and highlight plays. But Crawford could actually be the better football player when it's all said and done. We'll see.
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January 9th, 2016 at 11:27 PM ^
Wow .04. Why would we even want a bum like Crawford when Corley is clearly going to win at least 2 Heismans.
January 9th, 2016 at 10:21 PM ^
The two are relatively close in rankings.(14 vs 21) That's not a huge difference.
Plus, neither has a played a down. For all know the best WR for UM or MSU may be the lowest ranked guy.
January 9th, 2016 at 10:30 PM ^
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Bye Rob... your "bigger point" was lost amid a flurry of facts!!!
I think you're asking for a level of maturity and magnaminity here that our opponents would never consider, and it doesn't look like we're going to either...
Corley is essentially an equal player to Crawford, but they have different skillsets. Either would be a great get. Congrats sparty you got a good one looks like. But so did we!
Why stress? Why lecture?
January 10th, 2016 at 8:45 AM ^
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And look at next year in-state. They're already doing the whole "Pipeline Nine" thing to try and lock down the state in a talent filled year. There's a lot more variables to this than just grabbing kids from the state just to take them. Take the best players first, regardless of the state.
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January 9th, 2016 at 9:35 PM ^
You might find this Ivan Maisel article interesting:
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Harbaugh can NOT expect to routinely get 4-5 stars from Cali. Some yes, like the Crawford kid. But not very often...he must lock down the top players from Michigan and Ohio, then pick and chose the best of the best from other regions.
January 9th, 2016 at 10:56 PM ^
How hard is it goin to be lock down Michigan prospects if we continue to win compared to California or Texas? We need to get in on those places early. Also if you look for next year's class, we lead for virtually all top instate players minus one or two.
January 9th, 2016 at 11:18 PM ^
Other than that the coach couldn't spend time with us practicing.
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January 10th, 2016 at 11:30 AM ^
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to find kids with both top-level athletic and academic ability. There are only so many top athletes that really prioritize academics.
Fortunately, precious few schools aspire to that high a standard, and they recruit nationally as well - ND and Stanford. Some other schools (Duke, NW, etc.) emphasize academics, but they don't recruit many 4*.
I'm not saying all our recruits are Rhodes Scholars, nor do I think that every kid at Georgia or MSU is mailing in their education, but I hope and expect UM fields a team of real student-athletes.
It's also a reflection of Michigan's student body - UM draws students from everywhere.
One of the most exciting things about JH's hire for me was his proven record of recruiting and developing real student athletes. Maintaining academic standards is also one of the things I admired about BH.
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http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/sec-states-produce-tons-of-fbs-talent/
Florida high schools have the best yield in terms of FBS signees from their pool of football players. Michigan has only about 1000 fewer players in high school football than Florida, but has only about 20% of the signees in football that Florida does. Almost 1 of every 100 football players in Florida becomes an FBS signee.
Texas and California have the most high school players that become FBS signees. Texas has about four times as many football participants as Michigan and about 6 times the number of FBS signees. California has about 2.5 times as many football players and almost 4 times the number of signees.
Ohio has about 10% more football participants than Michigan, but produces slightly less than double the number of FBS signees.
There is also data available for participation in both football and other high school sports by state that might aid an analysis of how much dilution may occur due to some of the best athletes focusing on other sports.
http://www.nfhs.org/ParticipationStatics/ParticipationStatics.aspx/
January 9th, 2016 at 11:33 PM ^
Sounds like a plan! A plan I'm pretty sure JH plans to adopt.
I won't be surprised if some of the "Swarm" commits from last summer end up being from schools that turn into pipelines to M. That's planning ahead!
January 9th, 2016 at 10:53 PM ^
1 from Michigan and 0 from Ohio very interesting
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Drake Harris has been the best player out of GR in the last decade, and he's been a huge bust at Michigan.
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