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Seems like they're actually really excited to play together. You don't see posts like this much from players who are headed to the same team for the same job

I am very impressed with how…

I am very impressed with how the steelers have handled this whole situation... Wilson and Fields were both absolute bargains... Russ doesn't have many years left, but the steelers don't need a super-elite QB, they need someone like Russ. 

I was thinking they might draft JJ behind russ, but I cannot deny the Fields deal was obscenely good. They NEVER had a good QB2 behind Roethlesberger for his entire tenure. They were screwed every time he got injured. This is the first Pittsburgh team i can remember that had "I don't feel like we're going to get anhililated whether QB1 or QB2 plays" 

KP was probably the stupidest pick i've ever seen that team make in the draft... 


Like I said, I really kinda was hoping they would make a move on JJ in the draft, but this does open up a lot more potential options to draft other needed positions (most of which they're already pretty damn good in to be honest) 

People acted like Wilson was terrible in Denver.. When looking at his stats, I see a different picture, and he was the most sacked QB in the league. His style should fit right in with the steelers tbh. (and i thought JJ would fit the steelers playstyle as well.. they are a lot like the michigan team of the past few years generally... not much different from ravens...) 


Who knows, maybe they'll still take JJ as a hedge, but it seems improbable at this point... They are in the toughest division, nobody finished with a losing record this past year. I think with the QB changes and potential draft improvements, they have a super high ceiling this fall so long as injuries are at a minimum and they don't whiff in the draft... Even without the draft, the current roster seems really good. If they had a top 16 QB last year they probably would have made a good playoff run. 



To that end, I'm really hoping they draft some of the michigan players in the draft this year either way. A lot of good stuff to be had... Fields isn't the Michigan qb i was hoping for, but the value they got out of their trades cannot be denied  (yet... ;)  ) 

You probably watched that…

You probably watched that video within the same 5-minute window that I did -- and it genuinely feeds into why I think he might be a prime target for pittsburgh... but also why I'm almost 100% certain he's going in the top-10. 

His "football IQ" is high, his ceiling is "unknown" but what he's been able to do with the time he's had to throw the ball in clutch situations is outstanding to say the least. A lot of teams  (like pittsburgh) need a QB that is just like JJ.. willing to be game manager, but can be cool under pressure, create time, and throw darts when needed. His mechanics were well illustrated there. 

This is why i think the…

This is why i think the steelers are likely to try to make a move for him... They realy blundered with Pickett... Pittsburgh usually needs a "purdy"  type qb that can make the big shots when needed.. that's what jj is. 

 

That said, I just think he goes top 10 at this point because the demand is there.. He could land at multiple places at this point because multiple teams are after him. 

JJ is super underrrated as a…

JJ is super underrrated as a passer if you look at the quality of some of his throws, especially under pressure outside of the pocket. (and yes, in the pocket as well) 



The sample size just isn't big because he wasn't relied on...   I think he's a perfect fit for Pittsburgh right now.  That team is basically "stable quarterback that can manage a run-first team and still make the tough throws when needed" away from being really damn good again. 



 

Steelers are talking to…

Steelers are talking to Russell Wilson.....  Couple mock drafts had the steelers taking JJ. I was skeptical, but I do think they made one of their biggest draft-whiffs ever on Pickett.  Even then, I was still very skeptical that they'd spend their first pick on JJ. 
 
Given that they're talking to Wilson, and how much that team is really sitting at a point where they need a franchise QB that can "game manage" and hit some good recievers.. I'm starting to think  it's a very non-zero chance he could end up in Pittsburgh. 

 

This picture is one of the…

This picture is one of the most iconic pictures in NCAA football I can think of, and it's barely over a year old. 


It sure is aging like the finest of wines. 

Sherrone got my vote just…

Sherrone got my vote just for not being born on third... he has earned every bit of it.., and I don't think for a nanosecond that harbaugh didn't have some plan to leave the team with the core that will remain and will be able to carry it forward. It may be slightly bumpy, but I have no doubt there was already a plan to put Sheronne in as HC as much as it's already being pushed as a given fact. We probably don't have attrition near alabama levels, and I think we keep what makes michigan great, the player development. 
The next year or two are going to be weird either way

Go get that ring Jim! 

Going back into the nfl as…

Going back into the nfl as an active coach, he will already have one of the best winning percentages *in the nfl* 

He's the only guy alive right now that could realistically win a national championship and a superbowl  and doesn't have infinite years to do it. 


He obviously left the program in decent enough conditon, and committed himself to helping the program CONTINUE to find good coaching talent moving forward. 


This seems like it was just where his heart ended up imo.. It's jim.. He's "quirky" .. He probably did have a lot of heart going into this decision. That's why he's fucking awesome. 

The people who are still left on staff are well prepared to keep moving this team forward and as far as the future of this team *AND* jim's chances at getting a natty AND a ring?!? 


BET. 

 :) 

 

I agree with most of that,…

I agree with most of that, but I think even if we don't "know" we'll have a "damn good idea" sooner or later, especially on this board. 

Man, we finally reach the…

Man, we finally reach the top of the mountain, living on cloud 9, and just a couple weeks later staring into the abyss. 

I'm hoping these are "strongarm negotiations" and he stays.. but at this point, I'm just trying to avoid reading about it until something is actually happening. This is way too much stress for just finally seeing Michigan step into greatness again for the first time in a long time. 

Dear Jim, 
Do what makes you…

Dear Jim, 


Do what makes you genuinely happy. 



That said, I really hope you stay in Ann Arbor, we fuckin love ya man. 

 

HAVE YOU SEEN OUR "HE'S COMIN'" MEMES FROM 2014!?!?!?!! 

I STILL FEEL THOSE!!! 

Give the bag to RBs .. They…

Give the bag to RBs .. They're the hungry ones who know the NFL is just going to stick it to them, and their opportunity to get paid fairly now lies in the confines of NIL. 



Michigan is super attractive to running backs. Harbaugh doesn't run them into the ground, but still lets them shine as brightly as possible. 

I think the Nico example cannot be overstated. This offense hasn't been designed to let them shine, we grind the field, run the clock, run it straight into their face, and gouge the field bit by bit until the other team is suffocated. 

This team is built on solid hard-nosed fundamentals, not on living and dying by big offensive downfield plays... We let the defense make the big plays. 

That said, it would be nice to have a WR that can bust one wide open once in a while or is OK with just creating mayhem for the defense, drawing double teams, etc.

I've never heard so much…

I've never heard so much bias come out of an announcer at the very last minute of a game. 


Disgusting tbh. 

 

We didn't just win, we…

We didn't just win, we comfortably beat Vegas (barring last minute muppetry) 

...and people are sitll losing their minds.  :) 

 

Florida State is up by FOUR…

Florida State is up by FOUR on Louisville with 7 mins left in the 4th quarter

Stop whining, we are undefeated and going to the playoff for the third straight year. 


Problems to figure out always exist, offense nto being as productive with huge losses on the o-line is very much expected. I'm happy to be with the team that's up by 3-scores rather than the one that already might not get into the playoff and is only up by 4 POINTS. 

It is going to take stime to…

It is going to take stime to piece together which way this offensive line will work the bset together now, our injuries on the line would have completely broken pretty much any team. 

Either way, this is in the bag, stop whining. We have about a month to figure out what to do up front  on offense. 

 

Guys, it is 24-0. 
Settle…

Guys, it is edit 23*-0. 

Settle down. 

 

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Most nerve racking game I've…

Most nerve racking game I've watched Michigan play in 2020s

Yes yes Weir everywhere :)  …

Yes yes Weir everywhere :)  


 

I stopped watching ESPN when…

I stopped watching ESPN when they let go of a bunch of people recently and one of them was Neil Everett.. He was pretty much the only thing i watched on ESPN and was on the night-owl shift... and a fellow deadhead :) 

 

 

I remember  "The happening"…

I remember  "The happening" very well :) 


ESPN was in absolute denial for days after this entire board was 100% confident Harbaugh was coming. 

I really liked those 28:1 oddds  :)  (and i got in late!) 

 

 

Comitted

 

I am holding my…

Comitted

 

I am holding my opinion of what I think will happen in colorado until i see this season play out and what their 2024 class eventually looks like. Too many variables to predict what is going to happen there. The hype train could fall apart, but the hype train could just as easily make this team a top10 and contender in 2024. 

Of course Deion will leave if given a huge opportunity ... I think he wants to make a statement in CFB first, but a huge nfl payday.... He already plainly said he's not going to pass an opportunity to move up because "in this industry if you're not moving up you're moving out" 

 

This is from another site…

This is from another site that posted ALMOST EXACTLY the same thing as the atlantic 

1h ago
The NCAA is investigating the University of Michigan football program amid allegations of sign-stealing, the Big Ten announced Thursday.

The league approached Michigan State on Wednesday, ahead of this weekend’s matchup between the rivals in East Lansing, with what it described as “credible evidence” that the Wolverines have successfully stolen signs called by opposing team’s coaches this season.

Yahoo reported Thursday that the NCAA is investigating Michigan “over possible rule-breaking around in-person scouting of opponents.” According to NCAA Bylaw 11.6.1, off-campus, in-person scouting of future opponents (in the same season) is prohibited.

UM athletic director Warde Manuel spoke with Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti on Wednesday regarding the matter. According to a source with knowledge of the allegation, Michigan has yet to be presented with evidence compiled by the conference.

The league claims that Michigan, as one source with knowledge of the allegation said, is using a “vast network” to steal opposing teams’ signs. The league told Michigan State it has reviewed film that shows UM clearly knowing what play an opposing team is going to run before the play occurs.

Sign stealing is not prohibited by the NCAA, unless a team intercepts in-game electronic communication.

“The Big Ten Conference considers the integrity of competition to be of utmost importance and will continue to monitor the investigation,” the league said in a statement Thursday.

Each school’s president has spoken directly to the league office regarding this matter, and each school’s board of trustees has been briefed.

Upon learning of the pending investigation, Michigan State initially warned the Big Ten it might consider not playing Saturday’s game out of concern for health and safety for its players, according to two sources briefed on those conversations. On Thursday morning, MSU confirmed it will play the game.
 

Can we stop talking about…

Can we stop talking about this? 

We know the game being played right now
We know the players involved in the game
There is nothing we can do about it.
Everyone has the right to advocate for better pay when they are a better worker
This is how the system is set up to give a coach leverage for a better contract
This coach gave up a huge chunk of salary to stay on and to build a better program
He wants it back now that he has overdelivered 2-years in a row. 
Say what you want about losing in the semis, we've spent 20-years playing Kohler Toilet bowls 

We all still have assholes -- I mean opinions. 

Too many 50-point wins today…

Too many 50-point wins today... we're gonna need 60! 

 

that was posted an hour ago …

that was posted an hour ago .... reading is hard. 

 

damn can i still get a…

damn can i still get a ticket ready to roll from toledo right now :D :D 

 

 

Great game so far


If…

Great game so far



If things go well in 2nd half, fiirst hurdle of the season is over.. 6-0, going into the bye week bowl eligible.

Hopefully Nebraska's defense is as wobblly as the optics make it seem. 

 

I want to see the other team…

I want to see the other team forfeit because we destroyed their will to win. 

Wait.. new season?  What…

Wait.. new season?  What year is this? I thought 2020 just started?

 

Been avoiding the forum all…

Been avoiding the forum all season because I knew it was going to be a total shitshow after the late start and there already were low expectations. 


The entire FBS is total chaos outside of a few outliers, yet here I am, reading  this thread like it's full of 200 freshly minted sports-analysts. 

This entire season is an anomoly. Michigan isn't the only team facing huge issues, and not the only team facing huge issues that would normally be performing better. 

I don't feel the need to even make excuses for this season or to count it. It's a shitshow  all around. 

Everyone who pays attention to the FBS as a whole knows it's a shitshow, yet you're judging this team as if everything is normal and has been normal. 

I know people are tired of "mediocre" seasons out of a program that's been performing better under harbaugh than the previous two experiments. 



I know I don't care to judge this season. 
People are stressed about a lot, the world isn't just football. 
This season shouldn't have played, big ten shouldn't have caved, and that's the end of me  giving a shit. They could lose out and i wouldn't change my  mindi that i'm not going to  make a real judgement until we're in a post-covid football  world again. 

 

 

This is the worst year of any of our lives to be building a young new football team. 

The advantage is going to go to the teams that have already been playing together. If we're lucky, this team will recover and gel up a little better over the next couple games and maybe have a shot at not getting totally smashed by OSU, but IDK. 

At this point, listening to the whining is already worse than watching the losing. 
This season really brought out the cro-magnon 

Man, sports were off TV for…

Man, sports were off TV for so long that I have forgotten they (partially) came back.

 

I remember when Covid hit, the one thing i said was "well at least i'll get to sit at home and watch march maddness" 

 

 

Yeah, I'm not going to get…

Yeah, I'm not going to get caught up in the minutiae of the situation. 

 

He did it, that's what matters. 

He knows his reasons, we have our opinions.

He and We are biased 

Just let it be a good thing? 

 

I also think he felt an…

I also think he felt an obligation to not pull Shea Patterson, and it probably cost us this game. He played the whole season, it's his last season, it's the bowl game he got us to, he deserves to play it -- I guess, but especially after going pass-heavy against Alabama, who went largely nickel in 2nd half ... it was painful to watch all the missed throws then Shea MAYBE hits a 3rd down pass to keep the hopeless dream alive. I would have liked to have seen more running in the 3rd quarter. We gashed them the entire 1st half then gave up completely on the run game. I was staring at the ticking clock in the middle of the 3rd quarter going "Uhhh  now's the time to try to keep busting the running game open because it'll be too late in 15-minutes"  yet we just kept passing the ball and letting their defense off the field.  We came out and did all the stuff that didn't work in the first half AT ALL and didn't do anything that worked in the first half AT ALL If the intent was to go pass-heavy in q3/q4, it was pretty obvious if we wanted to win, sentiment needed to be put aside and one of the two QBs vying to start next year should have been put into this game. Shea didn't want to run, and when he did run for ~9 yards, Nico had BLOWN THROUGH his coverage and was waving his hand wide open for a TD. We ran right through them for the first down, then threw a series of bad balls and punted. The running game was obviously still viable at that point in the game, and we went back to "throw it everywhere but at your receiver."  

When I saw Saban break his headset I thought "man, they really broke Harbaugh's spirit after that costly penalty vs OSU, he never gets emotional like that anymore"   

 

The first day Harbaugh coached at UM i was in row AA left of the 50 between 45-50 yard line. It was the day the clipboard went flying. I've never heard the big house get that loud except the Denard under the lights (2012?) and we were already in cruise control against a snowflake when the crowd exploded with harbaugh's energy. It was electric. I miss it. It all happened about 10 yards in front of our eyes and it ignited the spirit in me that michigan football was back. 
 

Harbaugh got penalized because he was mad about how his players were being treated. 
Saban gets away with it because he's directing the anger at kids. 

Regardless, the ferocity works when it comes to this game no matter who it's directed at, I just wish Harbaugh's approach wasn't penalized because it's far more honorable, and he hasn't been quite the same since that OSU game. 


Aside from my ramblings, I agree, we're way closer, except I think if we had our quarterback from back then with all of the staff and players of today, we would have won this game and did it in a way that made a major statement, instead of having najee harris shove an extra one down our throat to spite us in garbage time. (Yeah, that one hurt extra and they knew it) 

 

I can't help but to be confused at some of the choices being made in this game, but I still think we can't do better than harbaugh, he's as good as we could possibly get,  and there are external factors not being considered by a lot of people on here that don't seem to understand what bagmen and academic standards are. 

 

 

I'll be flying out to SF as…

I'll be flying out to SF as well for dead and company NYE.  

Some things are better left…

Some things are better left unsaid on public forums.   Christ.  

It's not Harbaugh, it's…

It's not Harbaugh, it's academic standards.

 

I don't know why there is ever any confusion here.  You have to play school at Michigan and not everyone wants to play school.  

I want the punt-the…

I want the punt-the-clipboard Harbaugh back :( 

 

/Yeah, I was there row AA on the 50 for the first game and the "blow up" that lit up the big house louder than any time since the f'n 90's 

//I'm aware he's more conservative because of what happened with the OSU penalty.

///I don't care, he's a better coach when he's not holding back!

Our coach is from Toledo, no…

Our coach is from Toledo, no need  for help selling shirts here !!!

Thanks

 

-YouWontDoBetterInToledo (yeah I'm here)

Football is dying, Harbaugh…

Football is dying, Harbaugh will never be fired even if he loses games because he gets kids paid either by actually getting to the nfl or getting a meaningful degree. 

You can read the first few posts in this thread, it's becoming glaringly obvious that people are just now finally waking up to the ravages this sport puts on the human body. I empathize with the athletes I have to work with knowing they have to deal with that kind of pain (i've had c5-c7 fused) i am amazed they get anny of their work done at all, and how much willpower it does take to get through the degree while being in that much pain. You can't give these kids anything that will fix nerve pain.... try working on your degree with nerve pain in your upper back. 

 

This "problem" isn't going away. I love the game.... For me, this whole "going soft" thing started when watching Gardner go downhill, and finding out how much nerve damage Denard had that he had to try playing around in the NFL after sitting out for years. 

 

I won't even get into the situation with the other QB at the time.  That would be gaslighting. 

 

 

I love seeing our bball alum…

I love seeing our bball alum doing well in nba, especially with michigan running a relatively clean program and being about DEVELOPMENT rather than 1/done

Also, I don't see harbaugh…

Also, I don't see harbaugh going anywhere .Why would he ?  To try to get to another Superbowl when he left that league to come home?  Harbaugh isn't going anywhere as long as the boosters keep boostin

OSU has the money and …

OSU has the money and "prestige" to court pretty much any coach in football expect people like Saban who have no reason to move from what they've built

 

 

Meyer, though accomplished as hell, and  I actually respect him for being open about his personal drug demons in the past ... I've just never seen his teams operate at championship levels without QBs that could be used like a wrecking ball RB.  it seems like his offensive scheme is flat without having the QB always ready to put their head down and run into a crowd.

 

I'm still nervous for this weekend.  Bill Clinton was president the last time I was this excited about Michigan football. I'm from Toledo so loving the harbaugh shea connection. 

 

 

Indiana is playing so…

Indiana is playing so fucking dirty tonight like sparty's shit teams playing to hurt out of spite. 

I just can't wait for the…

I just can't wait for the defense to get back on the field with all the revenge on their mind. keep it clean but rattle their ancestor's bones for the cheap shit

is liveblog down this week…

is liveblog down this week or is there a special handshake now? 

Touchdown Refs!!!! #rigged

Touchdown Refs!!!! #rigged

Osu blockers were openly…

Osu blockers were openly tackling on that facemask play #rigged