Possibility of redshirt for Peppers and Hoke's take on offensive line issues
Here is some REAL information regarding Peppers. According to Hoke, a Medical Redshirt may be a possibility. I guess his injuries are severe enough for this to be in consideration. Also, Hoke provides a theory (excuse?) about the Offensive Line's lack of development relative to other positions. He thinks the lack of summer camps for lineman and teams "trying to recreate defense" may be the problem. Yikes... Link Thoughts?
October 14th, 2014 at 2:14 PM ^
If Peppers can't play at all the rest of the season, might as well get a redshirt, but I don't think it will be needed either way. I highly doubt he's on campus for 5 years.
I'd much prefer Desmond Morgan to get a medical redshirt, and have seniors Morgan, Bolden, and Ross all playing together.
October 14th, 2014 at 2:32 PM ^
That's what I was thinking. Sure, no reason not to get it if you can, but he won't use it. I'm not of the extreme pessimist clique who think he's taking the field for any other NCAA team, but he'll definitely be doing it for an NFL team and very likely doing it early.
It pretty much sucks, though. Given that he won't be here five years, any time without him this year is just time without him, not time that we get to save him for his fifth year.
October 14th, 2014 at 3:06 PM ^
I'm intrigued that you are able to tell the future.
October 14th, 2014 at 3:18 PM ^
Oh, do I need to state clearly that it's my opinion next time so you're 100% sure that I'm not claiming I know the future? Sorry, I forgot being a sports comment thread people typically only deal in hard facts here, and that if you're going to give your opinion you need to announce it first.
Like I know what the guy's thinking or would purport to. I know he's already got NFL measurables and that he'd have to sit a year if he transferred, so it's my opinion that he goes to the NFL early and has little reason to screw around transferring.
October 14th, 2014 at 4:50 PM ^
NFL measurables don't get you to the NFL unless you're actually, you know, properly coached and show you can play against college receivers first. Neither of which he has done yet.
October 14th, 2014 at 8:05 PM ^
October 14th, 2014 at 11:45 PM ^
Will was at least here for 4 years. Peppers had played in what 2 or 3 games?
Saying a guy is going to be playing in the NFL after 2 or 3 college games is insane because you don't know what is going to happen.
October 15th, 2014 at 10:34 AM ^
Will was at least here for 4 years.
As a Defensive tackle.
He's playing Offensive Guard in the NFL.
October 14th, 2014 at 9:08 PM ^
October 15th, 2014 at 3:17 PM ^
October 14th, 2014 at 3:06 PM ^
yeah hell just redshirt this year if he cant play since hes a freshmen and then they worry about petitioning the ncaa for medical redshirt if need arises down the road (which is unlikely). a guy like morgan obviously has to push paperwork through right away since he already played snaps his 4th yr
October 14th, 2014 at 4:08 PM ^
October 14th, 2014 at 4:18 PM ^
Certainly Peppers, were he not to play any more this season, would be eligible. Morgan likely as well, if he did not come back.
October 14th, 2014 at 7:51 PM ^
October 14th, 2014 at 9:49 PM ^
But redshirts and medical redshirts are two different things. You have 5 years to play four seasons. Playing a snap of any season counts as one season. You can apply for a medical redshirt season, but that only takes place as a 5th or 6th year of eligibility after all other eligibility has expired.
Which in Peppers case, is probably moot.
October 15th, 2014 at 10:37 AM ^
You can apply for a medical redshirt season,
Yes.
but that only takes place as a 5th or 6th year of eligibility after all other eligibility has expired.
No. You can apply for a medical redshirt at any point during your college career. There is no need to wait until all eligibility is used.
October 14th, 2014 at 4:19 PM ^
well i highly doubt he will be on campus for 2 years...but thats a whole seperate issue lol
October 14th, 2014 at 7:36 PM ^
You never complain about getting more guys back, but the youth looks pretty good at LB. I have no quams with any of Bolden, Ross, RJS, Gedeon, & McCray. There is a lot of talent that I'm excited to get some meaningful snaps.
October 14th, 2014 at 9:54 PM ^
if he cant play i agree, lets use a redshirt but he is proboly leaving after his junior year, But morgan wont be hurt all year hes coming back against MSU. when is peppers playing again? he was a game time decison last week and theres not a clear cut answer to his return, anybody have further info? Go blue
October 14th, 2014 at 2:15 PM ^
October 14th, 2014 at 2:36 PM ^
spending his time and energy in this bye week advising his assistants (especially Funk) to get some good financial advice. They soon may need it while out seeking new work.
October 14th, 2014 at 3:15 PM ^
October 14th, 2014 at 9:52 PM ^
And funny how that issue only seems to hurt our team.
October 15th, 2014 at 8:21 AM ^
because all college coaches are in the same boat.
However, it is true that the emergence of 7 on 7 has reduced summer and off season development and camps for linemen. (e.g., Our high school team has Thursdays off for linemen in the summer, while the rest of the team is off playing 7 on 7.) Not to mention most camps do not have the kids in pads and hitting (most likely due to liability reasons). Even at the college level, the kids can voluntarily play 7 on 7 themselves with no coaches watching and work on the playbook, pass timing, coverages, etc., but how do the o-linemen and d-linemen work on foot and hand placement, pulling, and leverage, etc. in a realistic situation if they can't suit up?
Either way, maybe spring ball helps teams with a large number of southern recruits, but otherwise everyone is in the same situation.
October 14th, 2014 at 2:16 PM ^
October 14th, 2014 at 2:18 PM ^
What a ridiculous comment. No one was wondering about the failed progress of linemen nationwide; they were wondering about Michigan. It's not like 7-on-7 is a Michigan fad.
October 14th, 2014 at 2:20 PM ^
His comments would imply that offensive linemen all over the country are not developing.
Um, Brady? It's just you. YOUR offensive linemen suck.
October 14th, 2014 at 2:31 PM ^
October 14th, 2014 at 2:21 PM ^
That might hold up if every linemen in the country was underdeveloped but spoiler alert....that's not the case. That was one of the lamest excuses in a long line of lame excuses from BH.
October 14th, 2014 at 3:01 PM ^
October 14th, 2014 at 3:16 PM ^
guess thats what happens when you get a nervous goofy coach with zero public speaking ability grasping at straws 3-4 times/ week. im sure fred flintstone would drop multiple gems like that each presser if not for platitudes and practiced talking in circles
October 14th, 2014 at 2:22 PM ^
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October 14th, 2014 at 2:23 PM ^
"Offensive line development has been slower, Hoke said, and he said part of that might be attributed to a change in summer camp formats."
Was Michigan singled out for this change in summer camp formats? I can only assume that this change was made for us and us alone given that we seem to be struggling far more than others relative to our incoming players star rankings.
Well for those of you who think we get the raw end of the deal from the B1G and the NCAA it looks like Hoke has confirmed it. Every other D1 team in the nation operates under one set of summer camp rules and we, apparently, have another.
Couldnt possibly be coaching so that must be it.
October 14th, 2014 at 2:40 PM ^
Defenses now completely dominate the game. Witness all the low scoring games every week. Sure a handfu ofl teams like Baylor, OSU and Arizona still put up a lot of points, but they're running up tempo spread offenses. That's tantamount to cheating.
October 14th, 2014 at 3:56 PM ^
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October 14th, 2014 at 6:24 PM ^
Oh but the spread could never ever work in the big bad Big Ten.
You'd have to be positively insane to use that tactic in this conference.
October 14th, 2014 at 8:36 PM ^
What do you mean our OL is not developing, you mean these 4/5 stars won't be 1st round picks???
Newsflash, what positions since the Hokester has been here HAVE been developing - easy answer NONE!!!
Why in the hell is Funk still here? Does he have polaroids or snapchat pictures of Hoke and Brandon - only possible explanantion!
October 14th, 2014 at 6:04 PM ^
Even if Hoke sincerely believes this explanation, he doesn't seem to grasp the fact that it will sound like nonsensical argle-bargle without a lot more information than he's providing.
I'm still shaking my head over this, and I'm one of those who doesn't get concerned over what he says at pressers. This might explain a lot about what's been going on.
October 14th, 2014 at 2:23 PM ^
Any last words?
October 14th, 2014 at 2:27 PM ^
October 14th, 2014 at 3:31 PM ^
Classic
October 14th, 2014 at 2:24 PM ^
I bet if he could be transported back to 1981, Hoke would be a decent football coach.
October 14th, 2014 at 3:20 PM ^
they work really hard and coach really hard each week to put a 1980 offense and defense on the field, they just need to execute better and coach harder
October 15th, 2014 at 9:49 AM ^
Unfortunately, I don't think that's true. Hoke seems pretty damn incompetent, not just old-fashioned.
October 14th, 2014 at 2:26 PM ^
Great, another opportunity to scrutinize everything Hoke says or does.
October 14th, 2014 at 2:26 PM ^
Hoke should be pointing to his horrible O-line coach Funk for poor line play and not lack of time in the summer. It's amazing other teams have no issues and have less 4 star players at the position.
The talk of getting Peppers a redshirt really now makes no sense. Why didn't he come out with this earlier?!? Hoke could've kept the fan base happy and the rumors down. If the kid is hurt and you can get the redshirt do it! Don't play around and send a kid out on the field that isn't 100%.
October 14th, 2014 at 2:28 PM ^
We should try to recreate some offense.
October 14th, 2014 at 2:31 PM ^
October 14th, 2014 at 2:42 PM ^
Yes, but only on Tuesdays.
October 14th, 2014 at 4:19 PM ^
The interesting case would be if he were to transfer, use next year as his redshirt year, still have three years of eligibility remaining, and then petition for a medical waiver do an additional year. Typically to get a sixth year, the athlete has to lose 2 years to injury(ies), but it would have been approximately 1/2 of one game played, and he may have a case to get the extra year. Of course, no one expects him to actually stay in school until his eligibility is exhausted, so it is a moot point.