Fall Camp 2011: Presser Notes 8-26
(Newsy bits pulled out for easier digestion. Important stuff underlined for better clarity. [Ed: jk, I guess we're still bolding.])
Brady Hoke
Again, from not my file, but we'll get there soon.
News Bullets:
- Gallon, Dileo, and Vincent Smith handling returns
- Odoms is healthy
- Starting O-line, from left to right: Lewan, Barnum, Molk, Omameh, Huyge
- Shaw starting RB, Fitz likely back-up (based on mention only)
- Thomas Gordon likely starting free safety, may play nickel along with Woolfolk
- Cam Gordon starting at SAM, no starter at WILL yet.
- Gibbons likely kicking FGs. Wile will kick off, also might punt.
- Started prep for Western Michigan two days ago.
Okay, on to the poetry.
General, aka fluff:
Footbawww. "It was really good to get up in the stadium, get up there and kind of go through our process on gameday, so guys get an idea what our expectations of mentally preparing for a game -- how you come out, where you go with your group to warm up -- all those things that we don't think about, but they're all organization things you've got to go through. We got to do that, we got to be in that locker room, go down the tunnel, and get a sense for playing in that great stadium."
Consistency. Toughness. Improving. "This was practice 23. We have six opportunities left. We have to keep grinding and keep improving as a team. There were some good things you saw on both sides of the ball, but at the same time we're a long way from where we need to be as a football team."
We need to stop false-starting. "We had a couple penalties today, two of them were composure and poise penalties. We had a full Big Ten crew working the scrimmage. It was a much lighter scrimmage than it was a week ago. Our composure and our poise -- we had a couple procedure penalties offensively that obviously don't help you. Instead of first and 10, you're first and 15 or you're second and 12 or whatever it might be. Those things bother you."
But we didn't fumble or throw INTs! "We took care of the ball pretty well. When you look at the ball security issues ... that's huge for us. We've been minus 32 in turnover margin the last three years. You can't play football that way."
What is the two deep? "I think there are things that are set. We'll do a good job of diving into the tape tonight and further some evaluations on guys. The corner position is hotly contested. I like how JT and I like how Troy have come back, but Courtney Avery and, oh, daggonit, uh..." Talbott? "Calvin! Yeah ... " No, Talbott. " ... Talbott is doing a good job. I just went blank... I'm good with numbers ... Number 18, Blake Countess is doing a good job. Greg Brown is playing well. There's great competition there."
How is health? "We're pretty good health wise." Nothing major? "No, no ... everybody's a little beat up." Tay Odoms? "He scrimmaged today. In fact, he's gone the last three days. He seems fine."
Return game? "Gallon -- both kickoff and punt -- has done a good job. I think Vince Smith in kickoff returns is a guy that would either be the off returner because he's not afraid to go hit somebody in the face, or return the ball. Dileo -- punt -- when you look at punts, you always want to make sure that guy first and foremost is going to be able to field the ball, and isn't scared. I think between those two right now we'll probably start that way."
How many plays did you run in scrimmage today? "We went 126 plays last week. If my count's right, we'll probably get 73-74 today."
How many 4th and 1s? "One."
Did you do anything situational? "We did black-zone coming out, trying to get a first down so you have room to punt and field position. We didn't put it on the 1-yard line. We had a bunch of shots last week at it, and that was a pretty phsyical deal. You're starting to get to the point where you want to get into game week."
Were you surprised by the transfers? "I think you're always surprised, but guys gotta do what they feel is right for them. This isn't for everybody here, and it never will be. They're great kids, and we wish them the best."
But you recruited them! "That happens."
Resolution at some positions, can you share? "Mike Martin's probably going to be the nose tackle. Denard's going to be the quarterback." Oh. Ha ha. "Koger's going to be the tight end. Molk will be center. Lewan will be the left tackle. Huyge will be the right tackle. Patrick will be the right guard, and Ricky will be the left guard. Running-back wise I think we'll look into his tape a little more, but Shaw's had a pretty good camp. Fitz has had a good camp. Safety-wise, Kovacs will be one of those safeties at our base, and I would think Thomas Gordon will be. Thomas is really having a tremendous camp. He had a tremendous summer, and that's why his camp was so good."
Whoa, wait, where did Gordon come from? You never talk about him. "I just think his whole attitude and how he approached the game of football, workin' out, all those things. He's really taken a conscious effort. He'll play some stuff in our nickel. Him and Troy, depending on what unit we have out, they're both playing some nickel. Thomas is basically a dime in another defense. There is a lot of learning that goes on, and he's done a really good job with it, and I'm proud of where he's at right now."
SAM and WILL: "Cam Gordon, I would think, is going to be the SAM. Jake is obviously pushing in there. Brennan Beyer has done a nice job for us. At the WILL ... I don't know yet. Mike (Jones) and Kenny Demens (?) have done a good job, but at the WILL, Hawthorne missed a couple days because of an ankle, and he's fighting his way back. Mike Jones is playing a little bit of both them, both MIKE and WILL. Freshman Desmond Morgan is a good football player. He's got a slight ham, so we held him out today. I don't know if we have a definite guy."
Kicking and Punting: "There's no doubt Wile will kick off. I think Gibbons has done a nice job. He's been accurate. [Ed-M: whaaah?] We did a lot of kicking again today. He's had a good camp. Wile has had a pretty good camp. I think Wile will probably punt, but Seth is a real good possibility there. I think that will probably be a decision made up Wednesday or Thursday to be honest with you."
But that's really late! "You can do that one late I think."
"They all have a real great mindset about their craft, and I like that about them. I don't know if I would have said that in the spring as much, but I think they all have worked hard at it. Every night they're evaluating their kicks because we film them a lot from all angles. You get a write-up from them, and some of them are a page, page-and a half about each kick and my plant foot and whatever it might be. I'm pleased that they're into football, let's put it that way."
You're a big tradition guy. What does it mean to be in stadium now? "Yeah it's always special to be in the stadium. We talk about that a lot, when we go up there, the expectation, how you play. We had one other date that we were going to be there, but we had the bad rain and the storm, so we had to stay indoors. We were at [Big Ten Championship site] Lucas-Oil Stadium indoors for that day because all those scrimmages are gamedays. And the championship is played in Lucas-Oil, so we had to go indoors, we just thought it was lucas-oil." (I think Hoke means that they were playing make-believe.)
Minus blitz, how is the pass rush? "Mike gets some good push. I think he is a guy that is aggressive enough, strong enough, pretty good technician in there to push the pocket. I think Jibreel has shown some life as a pass rusher, and Roh. Ryan's kind of a meat and potatoes guy. He works hard at it, and because of that, he'll have some good things happen."
What's your schedule the next two days? "We're going to have a very good mental practice tomorrow at the stadium. Probably about an hour and fifteen minutes. A lot of kicking, a lot of situational stuff. A lot of mental stuff. We'll do a two-minute at the end. We've started Western -- we started about two days ago on some of the switch personnel things, looking at them on both sides of the ball, and we'll have a couple of periods on Sunday. On Monday, they'll be off of meat," (No meat!?) "but there will be no practice for them. We're getting into the school-time schedule where we'll be off as far as practicing goes."
August 26th, 2011 at 7:54 PM ^
So we are practicing going down the tunnel? Jesus Christ.
I can only imagine if that came out about RR...
August 26th, 2011 at 8:05 PM ^
Does that fall under official NCAA practice limits? Or will the Freep investigate Michigan for excesive tunnel walking?
August 26th, 2011 at 10:24 PM ^
That picture of Hoke is hilarious. He could be singing an irish pub song. "what we gonna do with the drunken sailor"
Here is a rendition by the late great Tommy Makem accompanied by the Clancy brothers. Makes me want to head over to the Tipperary Pub.
August 26th, 2011 at 10:40 PM ^
did Coach Hoke knock on wood of the pulpit or desk there when talking about how everyone is pretty healthy... looked like he did that intentionally, pretty cool
August 26th, 2011 at 8:08 PM ^
He just said they came out of the tunnel. As far as I know, that is the only way to reach the field from the locker room (doesn't make much sense to leave the stadium, hop the turnstiles, and barrel down the aisle like they are rushing the field).
I doubt Coach Hoke had them do it 6 or 7 times to make sure they got it right or adjusted anyone's banner touching technique.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:20 PM ^
Zoltan video of how not to do it:
August 27th, 2011 at 7:46 PM ^
Imagine my suprise when I heard Zoltan was the faller.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:10 PM ^
Ok I'm not sure how you understood that as practicing going down the tunnel. It's not like they walked down to the end, and then Hoke's like "Ok boys, that lacked effort, let's turn around and try it again". They just walked down the tunnel to get to the field.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:37 PM ^
Disagree. I imagine something like this:
Hoke: "The end of the tunnel is that way."
Players: "Which way coach?"
Hoke: "That way."
Players: "Thanks coach."
Martin: "Let's go! AAAAAARRRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!"
Hoke: "Stop, stop, stop. THIS IS MICHIGAN. We run down the tunnel like Michigan Men! Do it again."
Players: "Do we have to?"
Hoke: "Now."
Hoke: "We'll do this all day*"
Denard: "Let's go! AAAAARRRRRGGGHHHH!!!!!! HARD EDGE!!!!!!"
*Not to exceed NCAA practice time limits.
August 26th, 2011 at 9:55 PM ^
Not "effort" but "consistency" or "technique". I haven't heard two words mentioned more often in the last 3 weeks.
August 26th, 2011 at 10:29 PM ^
from "tremendous." No doubt he'll expand his playbook even further as practice and the season progress.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:22 PM ^
Actually I was wondering what would have happened to RR in the media if he'd forgotten any of his players' names in a press conference.
August 26th, 2011 at 10:32 PM ^
It probably did happen in 2008. It's not that easy to remember the names of a ton of kids you didn't recruit. I don't think the media would grill a new coach over that.
August 26th, 2011 at 7:58 PM ^
are going to smoke Western, like acheap cigar. What happens after that is anyone's guess.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:02 PM ^
IIRC, Gibbons kicked well in practice last year also. I don't wanna hate on the guy but I am skeptical we won't see Wile attempt a FG against WMU.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:05 PM ^
There's a decent chance we won't see any of our guys attempting a field goal against Western.
August 26th, 2011 at 9:10 PM ^
I really REALLY hope one of our guys get the chance to kick a FG in the WMU game.
I'm really hopeful that Gibbons has forgotten the past and will be a new guy. But I don't want to find out against ND, where every point will be important.
Let's see if Gibbons can handle the pressure in game one, and if not, the Wile era can begin.
August 26th, 2011 at 9:51 PM ^
Let's keep in mind that Gibbons is a sophomore. I don't know if it's fair to assume that he can't improve upon his freshman-year performance.
August 26th, 2011 at 9:59 PM ^
* RS Sophomore, Olasnavaje took care of the kicks in 2009 as Gibbons redshirted and Mesko punted
EDIT.- Shaiza, I was positive you had written 'true'sophomore, my bad....
August 26th, 2011 at 10:19 PM ^
You're right - I originally did write "true sophomore" and then I double-checked and edited it. I forgot he redshirted in '09.
Anyhow, I hope the buzz on him is true because asking Wile to handle both kicking and punting is a lot, especially his freshman season.
August 27th, 2011 at 12:51 AM ^
but what happened to Hagerup? Am I missing something? I recall seeing something about an early season suspension - he didn't transfer, too, did he? Just worried as I haven't seen a mention of him in a while...
August 27th, 2011 at 10:50 AM ^
Unspecified "violation of team rules." Not a good sign after suspension end of last season, but maybe adding four more and watching others filling in for him gets the message across.
August 26th, 2011 at 10:27 PM ^
Eh Rivas struggled a bit when he was young, then he turned out to be an extremely solid kicker later on. 18 year olds can be headcases.
August 26th, 2011 at 11:12 PM ^
is Ross who hit over 90% during spring ball. If his HS stats are true, why not give him a chance!
August 26th, 2011 at 8:09 PM ^
...there is a difference between kicking on "Main Street" and "State Street." Well we saw Gibbons kicking on "State Street" last season and it wasn't pretty. That one line made me double clutch my martini. Mind you I didn't spill it, just nudged it a bit.
August 26th, 2011 at 10:50 PM ^
Must have seen a lot of practice last year then...
August 26th, 2011 at 8:09 PM ^
I am an idiot. No question about that. Having said that......
Off meat? Help me out here?
August 26th, 2011 at 8:11 PM ^
Why don't you go start a Tiger thread and I'll try to figure this one out for ya.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:12 PM ^
Maybe he meant to say: "They'll have meetings on Monday but won't practice." Perhaps just didn't get the wording clear.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:17 PM ^
they are using Google translator
August 26th, 2011 at 8:38 PM ^
git it?
August 26th, 2011 at 10:43 PM ^
How can they have any pudding?
August 26th, 2011 at 10:55 PM ^
just to upvote this.
August 26th, 2011 at 10:59 PM ^
(AP) - Ann Arbor, MI 8.26.2011 In cooperation with the UM School of Medicine, PETA, and the National Vegetable Growers Association, the 2011 University of Michigan football team will consume a strictly vegetarian diet on Tuesdays through Fridays prior to Michigan football games, Athletic Director David Brandon announced on Friday afternoon. The initiative is being undertaken to reduce the incidence of heart disease, diabetes, sebaceous cysts, and gout among older football players, who are accustomed to heavy consumption of red meat and pork during training camp and the regular season. "It may put our traditional participation in the Lowrey's Beef Bowl out in Pasadena in question," Brandon joked, in reference to the gigantic quantities of beef consumed by the Rose Bowl teams during pre-game festivities at the famous restaurant. Brady Hoke's first Michigan squad will be able to load up on dead animal flesh on Saturday nights and Sundays and Mondays, however, and the local beef wholesalers are preparing for the weekend onslaught on their meat lockers by hungry Michigan players. — Michael Rosenberg and Mark Snyder, reporting for the Detroit Free Press
August 26th, 2011 at 11:03 PM ^
With contributing reports by Drew Sharp.
Edit: Big Will Campbell is now down to an emaciated 243 and will start at SAM.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:10 PM ^
Hoke, he got some John Madden in him. He justs sounds like football, when I hear Hoke talk, I hear football, Michigan football.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:12 PM ^
August 26th, 2011 at 10:39 PM ^
with a different coaching style and attitude.
August 26th, 2011 at 10:06 PM ^
this post was apparently just a pearl before swine. move along.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:14 PM ^
August 26th, 2011 at 8:17 PM ^
This came up in a thread before, but Woolfolk is a guy who has played safety before and knows those responsibilities. He's also an experienced senior. If you are deciding between putting him inside or asking a freshman like Countess to learn multiple positions, you're better off moving Troy inside and letting the young guy just cover one on one.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:33 PM ^
I had been scratching my head, too
August 26th, 2011 at 9:40 PM ^
Yeah and with Woolfolk coming off his injury the mobility might not quite be there to guard the deep routes as well as the younger guys can. Plus this puts Troy in position to make some plays over the middle as he is a very solid tackler.
This is similar to what Green Bay has done with Woodson and Denver is now going to do with Champ Bailey. As the veterans slow down but become more experienced they are more useful inside.
August 26th, 2011 at 9:51 PM ^
I understand the second part, but from all reports, including his own, Woolfolk is back to top form; totally unimpeded by the injury.
August 26th, 2011 at 9:54 PM ^
Well, I wouldn't expect him to say anything else. But it wouldn't surprise me if his mobility isn't completely back. He had a pretty nasty injury.
August 26th, 2011 at 10:20 PM ^
With an injury like his you're bound to lose a little bit of a step. Not that he won't be able to cover guys, but routes over the middle tend not to be simple go or post routes, so his backpedaling and straight-line speed won't be tested as much. Again I think this could actually be beneficial for Michigan, providing another corner steps up to guard the deep ball (I hope Countess)
August 26th, 2011 at 8:20 PM ^
Allow me a minute to say - I really enjoy the way Heiko writes up press conferences. The most excellent addition to this blog!
August 26th, 2011 at 8:39 PM ^
Heiko, your style is superb - you bring it to life and give it a third dimension, makes me feel like I was there with you. Bravo!
GO BLUE!
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