Semi-OT: Charlie Strong out at Texas At End of the Year

Submitted by boliver46 on

Speculation and rumors running rampant about the job security of Charlie Strong at Texas:

Just days after reports after athletic director Mike Perrin said coach Charlie Strong’s Texas program would need evaluation but not immediate wholesale changes, Sports Illustrated is reporting that Strong will be out as the Longhorns’ coach at the end of the season.

If this seems a little odd...it is.  The impact to the current team and any recruits would be tough:

If Texas has indeed decided to part ways with Strong, waiting until the end of the season, especially with at least eight games remaining, seems ridiculous. Anything could happen in those eight games. Texas hasn’t had a winning season since going 8-5 in 2013. The Longhorns could sweep the rest of the season or it could be mediocre. Either way, it’s now out there that Strong is a lameduck coach, which will no doubt have an effect on the way the Longhorns play.

From another article, it is ramping up to be an amazing number of high-profile programs likely looking for coaches:

With Strong expected to be gone at the end of this season, the stage is set for one of the most robust coaching carousels in the past decade. There's an expectation that jobs could open at Texas, Auburn, USC and Oregon to join the opening at LSU. (There's still a chance Penn State could move on James Franklin, but athletic director Sandy Barbour made definitive statements to the Altoona Mirror this week that Franklin "is not on the hot seat" and "is going to be our football coach.")

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Lots of potential openings, but leaving Strong hanging around all year doesn't seem like the best approach.

Thoughts as to replacement that fits in with the Texas "brand"? (Paging Dave Brandon)

I'd be yelling too:

Yeoman

October 4th, 2016 at 10:25 AM ^

(and I'm sure you already know but I like seeing it in print)

  • Michigan 5-0
  • Western Michigan 5-0
  • Grand Valley State 5-0
  • Eastern Michigan 4-1
  • Ferris State 4-1
  • Wayne State 4-1
  • Central Michigan 3-2
  • Hillsdale 3-2
  • Saginaw Valley 3-2
  • Northern Michigan 3-2
  • Michigan State 2-2

 

ldevon1

October 3rd, 2016 at 1:00 PM ^

LSU or Texas? I honestly don't think you could go wrong with either, when it comes to recruiting, but the easiest road the playoff is the Big (weak) 12. 

HimJarbaugh

October 3rd, 2016 at 2:50 PM ^

I disagree. Texas high school football seems to be all spread teams and I don't know that they are taught how to hit or play D. Strong is a defensive coach and he hasn't been able to get that side of the ball turned around, and it doesn't seem like that's due to a lack of Texas talent.

 

doggdetroit

October 3rd, 2016 at 1:56 PM ^

At LSU you can build a top 5 roster pretty easily but you still have to deal with several programs in your division that can recruit at a high level (A&M, Auburn, Alabama) plus an anual crossover with Florida that also can recruit at a high level. Alabama will fall back to the pack once Saban leaves but whoever replaces him will still probably recruit at a top 10 level.
Meanwhile, at Texas only Oklahoma can come close to building a comparable roster and you never have to play them on the road.

Miles averaged 10 wins a year from 2005 to 2015. It was clear that LSU needed a change since Miles wasn't going to get them over the hump but my feeling is that the next coach (even Herman) will be hard pressed to replicate that. 

FreddieMercuryHayes

October 3rd, 2016 at 1:00 PM ^

This is terrible for Texas. If you want to fire him, just fire him. Don't string it along. Not good for anyone. If Hermann wasn't out there and LSU didn't already fire Miles, my guess is that Strong would get another year.



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julesh

October 3rd, 2016 at 1:08 PM ^

Well this seems like a bad year for ND to fire Kelly, so there's still a chance he'll have a mediocre team to face Michigan in 2018.

UMgradMSUdad

October 3rd, 2016 at 1:09 PM ^

The SI reporter breaking this story is the same one who made up most of the story slamming Okie State last year.  I wouldn't be at all surprised if he doesn't have a source at all.  It's an easy enough claim to make.

Tuebor

October 3rd, 2016 at 1:22 PM ^

If Texas gets Herman then LSU will look like fools.  The reason you fire Miles early is so you can work the guys agent and get a tentative deal in place.  If Texas swoops him out from under you...  ouch.

LSAClassOf2000

October 3rd, 2016 at 1:43 PM ^

I thought so too - to me, the only obvious reason you do this now, even with some dignity still potentially left if you do OK the rest of the way, is to buy some time to try to get who you want without being saddled by who you don't. If that is what LSU was going for here, then you can only hope they are already deep into negotiation. If not, and Texas came out ahead in the Herman sweepstakes, then that's just embarrassing because either you didn't move when you should have or the offer was crap. 

Bi11McGi11

October 3rd, 2016 at 1:24 PM ^

If Texas gets the jump on this, they can put themselves in a solid position to land Herman. He has loads of connections in the state and was a GA there. I know Lousiana isn't far from Texas, by any means. But I imagine that that would be the place Herman would choose to go if he leaves Houston.

markusr2007

October 3rd, 2016 at 1:37 PM ^

becomes the highest paid college football coach in history next year?

For all of Herman's offensive genius at Rice, Iowa State, Ohio State and now Houston, the Cougars are only ranked 19th in total offense nationally.

It is the Houston Cougars defense that is ripping opponents to pieces, ranked 6th in total defense behind Michigan (only 250 ypg).

Danwillhor

October 3rd, 2016 at 1:48 PM ^

or somewhere. He wouldn't turn down a CFB power to stay in the NFL, he's already tried to get back. Oregon would welcome him back if he doesn't have a Show Cause thingy on him. TH would likely move from Houston to Austin and is likely the reason they've all but announced Strong is gone at year's end. Penn State needs stability but if FrankHokelin goes .500 and a HUGE name is out there they may bite. Going to be a crazy November - January!

Perkis-Size Me

October 3rd, 2016 at 1:51 PM ^

Not sure if this is true or not, but if it is, this is a BAAAAAAAAAD look for Texas. Even if they get Herman, if you're going to fire a man, just fire him and get it over with. Don't string him along and make him endure the media circus that you created. You think he wants to stand up there and hear people ask him about who his own replacement is going to be?

Charlie Strong is a human being, and he does not deserve crap like that. This is Business Ethics 101. People are at their most vulnerable when they've been fired, and now you're going to make him endure this for two months? If this is true, this is honestly Dave Brandon-level shit. 

I'm guessing Strong wouldn't go this route because he wouldn't want to abandon his players, but he wouldn't be out of line to tell the UT administration to go fuck themselves and clean out his office today. 

Danwillhor

October 3rd, 2016 at 2:02 PM ^

basically just said the same. Said he hasn't and isn't advocating a firing but "don't tell me you can't fire someone in the middle of a season". It's kinda crazy how every major program has one old, rich dude that basically runs the show from the shadows. He doesn't write policy but he writes BIG checks and those are like veto power in CFB. The promise of giving or threat to withhold that check makes decisions.

CincyBlue

October 3rd, 2016 at 1:55 PM ^

Sounds Like Nick Saban is going to get 5 raises this off season.  Maybe the Bama alumni group will payoff his lake house, his cars and his boat.

Perkis-Size Me

October 3rd, 2016 at 2:06 PM ^

Yeah but there is some value in firing someone with dignity.

Strong put himself in this position, to be certain, but UT is just giving itself an awful look to drag Strong through the mud for the next two months while everyone around him is asking who his replacement is going to be. 

Who knows? Does Herman sit there, look at a situation like this, and say I don't want to work for someone who does that to their employees? He'll probably find a way to look past it if the money is right, but people have turned companies away for lesser offenses. 

Leaders And Best

October 3rd, 2016 at 2:13 PM ^

You still have to think about the current team. There is no Texas assistant qualified to take the reins as an interim head coach. I think you have to let Charlie Strong coach the season out. The amazing thing about Strong's staff is that only 2 assistants remain from the staff he brought in when he was hired in 2014. And one of those guys is DC Vance Bedford who was demoted today. 5 of his nine assistants are in their first year at Texas. No one on his staff has HC experience. Who do you turn the team over to?

It is not a huge deal anyway. Their regular season ends on Thanksgiving so any firing at the end of the season would happen several days before the rest of college football. You can still vet interest in your potential candidate before then and lay the groundwork for a deal after a potential future firing.

It was just a bad fit for Charlie Strong in the first place. He should have held out for an ACC or SEC job. He would have been perfect at Miami.

bronxblue

October 3rd, 2016 at 2:12 PM ^

I assume Tom Herman will pick his favorite team, then everyone else will be scrambling.  Texas doesn't have a Harbaugh waiting in the wings, though, unless there's someone with deep ties waiting to come home I've not heard of.  Maybe they'll go after Petrino or Saban (again), but they are sort of screwed if they don't get Herman.  

Of course, this might mean Easy Ed Orgeron will stay at LSU, which is how the universe should work.

bronxblue

October 3rd, 2016 at 5:53 PM ^

LSU absolutely has the talent.  I think Saturday was a bit of an aberration, but this is still a team with lots of talent at the skill positions but a seeming unwillingness to exploit it.  I mean, LSU had Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry and still lost 3 games.  So I absolutely buy a world in which a no-pressure Ed Orgeron team just blows by teams by letting their athletes just play in an open offense.  Dural and Dupre are really talented; Dupre was a top-25 recruit.

Yooper

October 3rd, 2016 at 2:22 PM ^

Herman is actually from Southern California and USC has big-time resources as well.  Texas and USC have many things in common, including disfunctional athletic department leadership.  Unless LSU can lure Jimbo Fisher, they are going to be scrambling to land a big name college coach.

Blue Balls Afire

October 3rd, 2016 at 2:31 PM ^

I would love for UT to back up the money truck and pluck Nick Saban away, just to see all the smug Bama fans go apoplectic.  Wasn't there talk of Saban getting sick of the entitled fans at Bama a couple years ago and Texas making a push but for the bungling of their AD?

What the hell, I'll play the carousel game.  In addition to Saban to UT, I think it makes sense for, or at least it would be fun to see  . . .

Hermann go to Oregon

Jimbo to USC

Fedora to FSU

Mork Dantoni to LSU

Fleck to Purdue

Les Miles to Auburn

Art Briles to Hell

Wolfman

October 3rd, 2016 at 2:45 PM ^

He's never even given a hint, despite working for coaches that like to spread it out and tirre you with talented, faster players, that he will do anything but "Man ball." It is difficult to change a coach's philosophy and if the philosophy is at odds with what you want, there is no need to even test the waters as to interest. 

He is getting a ton of credit now for what he does, and he should. However, what many fans don't understand is many of "the three stars he develops into top-noth players" are just .02, an inch too short or 1 lbs to light from being among the top 300. Given the fact the line has been drawn at the top 300, this leaves so damn many fine players and the reason so many of the better coaches such as Harbaugh, Meyer and Saban have no problem extending scholarships to these players when it would be easy to appease fhe fan base by filling up with nothing but 4 and 5 stars. Minus kickers, each of these three could do it.