OT: Arizona State hires Herm Edwards (63) as Head Coach
Herm Edwards only college coaching experience was 1987-1989 as a defensive backs coach for the San Jose State Spartans.
He is 54-74 lifetime as a head coach (0.333)
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21615279/herm-edwards-l…
The deal still awaits approval from ASU president, Michael Crow.
This seems like a done deal.
Anderson got a contract extension to 2019.
Michael Crow (ASU President) & Ray Anderson (sports agent & ASU AD)
November 30th, 2017 at 11:50 AM ^
...they think they already have one of those guys on their staff, but they don't think he's ready to run the whole program yet.
November 30th, 2017 at 1:19 PM ^
But has this whole coach in waiting worked out for anyone yet? If they had that guy, imo, they should have promoted him. Lincoln Riley worked out well and he's early 30s (experience does not seem to matter that much).
November 30th, 2017 at 1:51 PM ^
Graham went 6-3 in the PAC-12. They like his hires. He has 4 years left on his contract and it may cost $12 million to buy it out. I'm missing something. Why not keep him around until they think the next guy is ready? Why pay a fortune to replace him with a placeholder?
November 30th, 2017 at 10:41 AM ^
"ASU has a new head coach whose primary attributes are the ability to speak loudly and glower."
Nicely put.
Herm may be a nice guy, but he's pretty much a TV character.
November 30th, 2017 at 9:09 AM ^
November 30th, 2017 at 9:12 AM ^
Meh ... it's an undie run school anyways
November 30th, 2017 at 9:14 AM ^
November 30th, 2017 at 9:18 AM ^
November 30th, 2017 at 9:14 AM ^
Oh, it happended. Can you imagine Herm Edwards doing a sleepover to get a recruit? Or maybe fly a helicopter to the high school field of a top prospect? After all, you play to win the game, right? Yeah, I'm guessing that's not happening.
November 30th, 2017 at 10:46 AM ^
November 30th, 2017 at 9:15 AM ^
Herm has an NFL pedigree, and brings the sizzle that I believe recruits will like. Obviously needs to implement the right coordinators, but I would be excited about this if I was an ASU fan. They haven't had much to be exctied about since Terrell Suggs and Vontaze Burfict.
November 30th, 2017 at 9:44 AM ^
as he's keeping all of Graham's assistants. I can imagine how excited I'd have been if we had replaced Hoke with a surprise out of left field that kept his staff. Woo Hoo!
November 30th, 2017 at 10:35 AM ^
November 30th, 2017 at 10:52 AM ^
I think Harbaugh would like discussing football with him. I don't think he'd allow Al to coach his QBs though.
There are some other Hoke assistants I can't picture working with Harbaugh at all.
November 30th, 2017 at 10:00 AM ^
I don't know what the 17- and 18-year olds you know are like, but the ones I know would laugh hysterically at the notion that somebody old enough to be their Grandpa could ever have "sizzle."
When you take into account that the last time Edwards actually coached, the average recruit was 8 or 9 years old, it's even more ridiculous.
When you take into account that his only college coaching experience was thirty years ago, and that his lifetime record as head coach is 54-74, you know that this decision is an incredible gift to Rich Rodriguez.
November 30th, 2017 at 10:12 AM ^
November 30th, 2017 at 10:31 AM ^
Yeah, OK.
November 30th, 2017 at 11:23 AM ^
Herm played and coached in the NFL. He is already a lead broadcaster for the NFL. He will attract more recruits to ASU as a result of these things than Johnny Randomcoordinator from Temple.
And what does age matter!? Mattison is 5 years older than Herm and is arguably the most liked coach by players on our staff.
November 30th, 2017 at 12:30 PM ^
OK, so maybe simmer is more accurate.
November 30th, 2017 at 10:44 AM ^
November 30th, 2017 at 11:04 AM ^
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November 30th, 2017 at 11:18 AM ^
Otherwise, he will step on your face.
November 30th, 2017 at 12:03 PM ^
This is exactly what we thought about Lovie Smith when he took over at U-Ill... Hasn't quite worked out.
November 30th, 2017 at 9:22 AM ^
Why are dumb people in charge of things?
November 30th, 2017 at 9:30 AM ^
Maybe?
November 30th, 2017 at 10:00 AM ^
for instance, nobody has put me in charge of anything. according to your standard i am eminently qualified.
November 30th, 2017 at 12:19 PM ^
November 30th, 2017 at 6:01 PM ^
barely.
November 30th, 2017 at 9:24 AM ^
He's just there for the parties.
November 30th, 2017 at 9:25 AM ^
I mean, ASU is used to being mediocre or sucking outright. If he can go 8-4ish most years he might be fine.
November 30th, 2017 at 11:06 AM ^
Agreed. Also, sounds like ASU fans think this hire is meant to be temporary where they want their OC Napier to be the long term guy but think he's too inexperienced to take over right now. Herm is a short-term plan to get Napier the experience without having him run the entire show just yet. Sounds convoluted, but feasible.
November 30th, 2017 at 11:38 AM ^
It's pretty obvious a short-term caretaker/mentor was the idea here. Their other top choice was Tony Dungy.
I don't have any idea whether Napier's a good choice, but I like that they're thinking long-term, have a succession plan. We could have used that, a decade ago.
November 30th, 2017 at 9:31 AM ^
ASU just signed its own death warrant. This won't work, and the result will be ASU further removed from the national relevancy conversation.
I've beat this drum before -- we're in an all-out arms race to see who can be in the top 10 to 15 or so programs that have the juice to play at the level to be in the playoff conversation. The process is starting to shake out various programs. Bad coaching hires at this moment in time can be disasterous.
I am thankful Michigan secured Harbaugh when it did. Seriously, we'd be in a world of hurt if we were still dinking around with roll-of-the-dice hires like Herm Edwards.
November 30th, 2017 at 9:32 AM ^
ASU' AD was once Herm's agent, right?
Yeah, this is totally above aboard and a smart move.....for the rest of the Pac-12.
November 30th, 2017 at 9:37 AM ^
November 30th, 2017 at 10:14 AM ^
As spectacularly ill-advised as the 2005 hiring of Weis was, at least he'd been active in the game from a coaching standpoint right up to the point of his hire, and his resume as OC for three Patriot SB victories suggested that he might have the knowledge to revive the Irish's fortunes. Edwards doesn't have anything really shiny on his resume; the best is a couple of 10-6 seasons with the Jets.
November 30th, 2017 at 12:22 PM ^
during his first season after he lost a close game to USC. Hiring him in the first place was a gamble. A bad one perhaps, but not ridiculous. Aside from his resume, Weis is a good salesman and that did translate into recruiting success. There's always risk in promoting a coordinator and Notre Dame didn't need to take it The extension was an emotional decision with no upside and plenty of downside.
November 30th, 2017 at 9:37 AM ^
If he's been coaching all star games he has connection in the recruiting world. If ASU has bag men they'll buy him a team to make him look good initially until it all implodes. ala Ole Miss.
Or like he'll just never win.
November 30th, 2017 at 9:37 AM ^
November 30th, 2017 at 9:39 AM ^
However if we lost/fired Harbaugh I'd like the next guy to keep Don Brown, Mattison etc.
I think it'd be a terrible decision and am still in Harbaugh's corner. I think more and more of Borges guys' grad transferring shows just how little Harbaugh had left outside of his underclassmin.
November 30th, 2017 at 11:35 AM ^
"I think more and more of Borges guys' grad transferring shows just how little Harbaugh had left outside of his underclassmin."
I think this is SPOT on and have been telling everyone all season that anything over 8 wins is good for us. Having NO QB on the Roster of Harbaugh's "hand-picked" and a relatively young O-Line with all FR Producers in the receiving core, was a recipe for Mistakes. We are literally 3-4* plays away from being 11-1. Add in an experienced + Talented QB, you're talking about Wisconsin success in the East Division (AKA Tougher schedule/opponents).
Let's see what 2018 holds regardless of schedule.
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November 30th, 2017 at 12:54 PM ^
Maybe he got crosswise with the admins. Otherwise I don't understand this move.
November 30th, 2017 at 9:37 AM ^
It is also intergalactically stupid