Moussa Diabate is THIN!
We all knew he looked rail thin, but he just measured at 2.7% body fat at the combine, which appears to be the lowest since Aaron Brooks in 2007, and is substantially lower than any other big in decades.
I’m honestly not sure what that says about his NBA/college future, if anything, but it was a strikingly low measurement.
https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?sort=BODY_FAT_PCT&dir=-1
I am curious how that compares to Chet Holmgren (his is not recorded)
Yeah, Chet has to be pretty near that himself. We’ll never know tho, so Moussa gets to be the official standard-bearer for thin bigs.
I think the athletic testing tomorrow will be really important for Diabate’s draft status. His length measured fine but not special for a center, and his draft is pretty much about his athletic potential.
He’s not going to be a center at the nba level. He will be a 4 who can switch and guard fives in smaller lineups for parts of a game.
There are like 6 true "centers" in the NBA. Pretty much everyone else is what you describe, a "4 who can switch and guard fives". Basically in the modern era of position-less basketball you are who you guard.
Think about Draymond. At 6'6" he's basically just a fat "3" who can switch and guard 5s. lol But they play him largely at the top and in spacing situations on offense, he guards the opponent's bigs. He's definitely a "modern" basketball player.
There's plenty more true 5s in the league than that, lol.
Yeah, I'm surprised Trevion Williams measured with a longer wingspan despite being 1.5 inches shorter.
Still plus length but not elite. Probably explains his good but not great block and steal rates.
Holmgren has zero muscles. He is all bones, skin, and nerve tissue. It's a medical wonder he can move his body at all without a single muscle cell in his whole body.
Hahaha that's funny because fat! How clever!
I have some body fat I would be happy to donate to Moussa.
I'm sure most things are salted then?
Yes, we could all take up a collection.
Might be the weirdest GoFundMe page ever, but count me in.
I hate even saying this, but I am a former amateur bodybuilder. This measurement almost certainly is wrong. Although SOME professional bodybuilders have approached or achieved body fat percentages ~2%, they have extraordinary and extraordinarily obvious characteristics: you'll be able to see striations in the musculature of the face and feet, the athlete will be so extraordinarily slothful that it's readily apparent, and they often won't be able to stand for more than thirty minutes without feeling faint and needing to sit. The athlete's back will look like a grotesque topographical map of the rocky mountains. Jerry Rice notoriously trained and reported to a training camp with a body fat percentage under 4% one year and needed to pause his training because he couldn't physically get through a single day's practice. Something's off about the measurements here.
That's all the more evident when you look at the other test results. It's highly unlikely any of these athletes are ~5, let alone nearly a dozen below that line.
I was under the impression there is about a 4% minimum body fat for men.
cosign. at ~2% they'd be headed to a hospital and some normal body functions wouldn't be functioning.
Not that I have any interest in speculating about anyone in particular, but sub ~5% sexual functioning almost always stops.
Hmm, at my body fat I should be dropping loads like a dump truck.
Wasn't that a Sisqo song? No? Oh....
I’m pretty sure that was word for word.
Yeah, I was gonna say I saw this video from some exercise guru on YouTube and he documented some of what happened to him when his body fat % got extremely low. Zero libido, often in a bad mood, etc. He was obsessed with getting as shredded as possible but realized how poor off he was.
Ditto. Got down to roughly 6% for a show and it was hard to function the last couple days....I have no idea how someone could to it on a consistent basis on 2.7% bodyfat.
The NBA Combine body fat percentages are notoriously often really wrong
This site has traditonally all about calling out fake fatty times.
FAKE
Yeah, I saw that number and assumed it was wrong. Honestly, a bunch of them seem off because that level of body fat would be painfully obvious and the player would likely look almost malnourished.
I was a high school wrestler and going from 185 during football to 160 during wrestling I was still at ~12% body fat. Our team went and did the dunk tank measurement. The rail thin coaches son who was literally starving himself was at ~6%. He was 5’9” or 5’10” and 125 pounds.
They are probably using some kind of bio-electric measuring device, which aren't always the most accurate and, in my experience, tend to skew low when dealing with taller people.
The thing is though, body builders have bigger muscles, and bigger muscle = more room for intramuscular fat. Intramuscular fat is why wagyu beef tastes so good even though it looks more ripped than regular beef. Moussa on the other hand is rail thin, and less "meat on his bones" if you will = less intramuscular fat. This is the reason that he has such an ABsurdly low amount of body fat compared to wagyu beef.
lol this is some serious bro science
I'm not sure if I'm hungry or impressed.
Username is ambigously indicative of the former.
I find this very hard to believe.
Makes sense.
His name is literally Diabetes.
So many of those heights crack me up. Let's start with everything in the "with shoes" column. Ridiculous concept. With the right shoes I'm 6'6" easy.
Notable "without shoes" heights:
- Drew Timme (6'8 1/4")
- Trevion Wiliams (6'7 1/4") (Craziest of all, as this guy was routinely listed at 6'10" .....)
- E.J. Liddell (6'5 1/2")
- Max Christie (6'4 1/4")
I think their real heights make them more ordinary.
also noted EJ's body fat.
and kofi weighed in at just shy of 300 lbs. if hoops doesn't work out, maybe playing LT will?
I was thinking the same (LT) for Trevion Williams. I love the way he chucks the ball around on the court, but I can't map that to anything on the gridiron.
Yeah, if someone had been advising Kofi correctly five years ago, they would have switched him to LT. At that size, with that agility and wingspan? Whew.
i realize that LT and football in general are a different skill set, but he certainly has the actual body size and athleticism, and i can see him being a genuinely physical guy on a football field. but the world will never know....
EJ ended up with the highest no step vertical leap by the way.
If Trevion Williams is only 6'7", does that mean Zach Edey is only 6'11"?
The concept of having those two different measurements (with and without shoes) has always been so absurd to me. There is literally zero possible value in that. Some of them get taller by an inch, some by two, and a bunch in between. Why on earth does anyone think that's worthwhile??
These combine measurements always seem strange to me. How often do NBA players play in a game while they’re barefoot? How often are NFL players playing in games while they’re without a helmet, pads, cleats and a full uniform?
I can add nearly ten pounds to my weight at the doctor’s office during a mid-winter visit when I step on the scale while wearing a heavy winter coat over a sweatshirt, a turtleneck, thermal underwear, a jumpsuit, a wool hat and boots. By the late summer visit, I can be about ten pounds lighter when I step on the scale barefoot while wearing a t-shirt and gym shorts. On my home scale, wearing nothing before I step in the shower, I'm the same weight in late summer as I was in mid-winter.
That's like the WWF would promote Hulk Hogan as 6'9" when he was 6'4" and the Rock at 6'5" when he's closer to 6'4". When I looked into pro wrestling, I went to a training facility to look into it and was shocked that at 5'10" I was taller than most everyone there. I was expecting to be a little guy. Just goes to show, never trust the height you are told haha.
WWE heights are so absurd lol.
Also, I’d venture to say the rock is 6-1 tops. Maybe 6-2 on a good day immediately after waking up. He did a promo next to Charles Barkley (who has admitted being a hair over 6-4) and was noticeably 2-3 inches shorter.
You are right. I meant to say 6'2".
Not sure how they measured it, but at the extreme these tests are prone to error. A colleague who was into competitive body-building (and took certain substances to enhance this) actually measured negative body fat percentage in a dunk test prior to a competition in the late 80's.
People got thinner just by standing next to him?
Man, there is still a lot of sports “science” that doesn’t comport with, like, real medicine. I’m not an MD, but as others have pointed out like 5% is problematically low and supposedly he’s at almost half that.
I should be so lucky as to have whatever number this NBA test would show as my actual BFP.
uncertain if user name is checking out....
I knew he wasn't 6'11" Standing next to Hunter Dickinson, he never looked close to only 2 inches shorter.