Mo Bamba commits to Texas

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Per the twitterz. Longshot from the start, but at least now there is definitely room for everyone to come back.

Whole Milk

May 18th, 2017 at 3:05 PM ^

I am not telling you that you are in the fault for everything, I would also be bothered by some of the things that are said to you. But I never see you acknowledge when you are in the wrong for what you say, and because you respond to every bit of trolling about you, your misgivings are more pronounced than others. 

Everything just seems to come back to a defensive mode of you without acknowledging that you could be wrong and hurtful yourself. You can't tell me you are surprised that you receive negative attention when you say things and call people "losers", "idiots", "afraid to leave their safe spaces" "shit heel", "can't even read", and that's just over the last few days based on your comment history. 

I'm sure you are as sick of all of this talk about your "trolling" and dickish nature as everyone else is. Your past responses have deflated your level of respect around here to an alarmingly low rate, which creates biases against you that may not be fair, but as long as you continue to engage in the trolling against you in every thread, it will just continue and probably get worse. Why not just ignore it and concentrate on the actual points until you start to get some respect back?

Maizen

May 18th, 2017 at 3:32 PM ^

You think I give a shit about "respect" from a bunch of anonymous screen names? Good one.

And you would be better served to provide some context to the things I have said that you illustrated above. Will you? Of course not, so let me post what proceeded those comments:

"he's the worst type of fan. I'm embarrassed to belong to the same fanbase as this loser."

"He's not a fan, he's a troll"

"Its says in your OP that he was a Michigan fan. Hold another neg" 

"Sorry I misread your OP. However, hold another neg for your awful posting in this thread."

So yeah. Context is important. People fire I'm going to fire back. Just like our football coach.

Whole Milk

May 18th, 2017 at 4:32 PM ^

Before you alienate another person who was not trying to start shit with you but genuienly trying to help this endless fight that you keep having, let me try and clear up my position. 

You clearly care. You are not kidding anyone by saying that you don't. If you truly did not care, you would not retort in such a defensive manner any time someone insulted you, you would ignore the comments and focus on the point, which you claim is what you want. Also, if you did not care, you would not make so many comments about the negging. 

I also believe that you have a clear misunderstanding of why you are disliked. You continually say things like "people don't like their safe space disrupted" as the reasoning for why you get sent to Bolivia, but that is missing the point altogether. It has nothing to do with what you are saying. Frankly, I assume most people no longer care about what you are saying because everyone is so concentrated on your disrespectful, poorly communicated, and sarcastic way of saying everything. Add in your complete unwillingness to take blame for anything, and it should come as no surprise that you get the reactions you do.

You say you come on here to have discussions, but you no longer have that option because your actual opinions are for the most part ignored or written off as trolling. So now you have become a guy who writes things to strangers on the internet, knowing damn well that all you will receive in return are insults which you do in fact care about. Please just take some good-hearted advice and engage in some self-evaluation to think "huh, is the reason so many people have completely turned against me completely by no fault of my own?" I will continue to read your opinions and think objectively about them, even though you are seemingly intent on making me and others have an inherent bias against that.

BoCanHam15

May 18th, 2017 at 2:36 PM ^

What makes your posts honest? Take one second to divulge this. Beilein is a great coach, but is an average to below recruiter? Do you know why some kids go to Kentucky or Duke instead? You said that you went to Michigan, so take one second to rationalize that, we have a different set of rules that our coach lives by. Thus, your subset of beliefs does not mean that your honesty is right! It's a $@@!$ opinion. Just see: Ohio State's Basketball class 2014.
It debunks your recruiting is everything myth.

Maizen

May 18th, 2017 at 2:52 PM ^

Ah the old everyone cheats but us excuse. 

I don't expect Michigan to recuit like Duke or Kentucky, even though we used to in the 80's and 90's, but I don't think it's too much to ask to start landing a few McDonalds All Americans and to consistently bring in top 15 classes every year.

CLord

May 18th, 2017 at 3:46 PM ^

Well I for one am with you Maizen.  But the first lesson in critique is you have to chortle and coddle everyone's ball sack by first paying 2 or 3 compliments before lobbing out the critique.

Meaning, I totally agree with you that Beilein has been a very disappointing recruiter relative to the power of the Michigan brand and the excellent W/L results he can present.  There really is little question about it - he is not an elite recruiter.

ON THE OTHER HAND, he is also one of the best coaches in the country, is a hell of a good representative of the university, and I'm still happy to have him as my coach.  (Just wish the dude could recruit better because I'm a Michigan grad, and thus I am allowed to want to have my cake and eat it too).

Monocle Smile

May 18th, 2017 at 12:54 PM ^

I would just prefer that the board act less shitty. Upvoting douche posts like 99% of Maizen's tells me that the board population is douchier than I'd like. 

It's utter insanity to read my post the way you did.

StephenRKass

May 18th, 2017 at 11:26 AM ^

Everyone in the know (not me) saw this coming.

This morning, I actually went over for the first time to look at an NBA 2017 mock draft. I didn't realize how heavily dominated the draft is by one and done guys. 22 out of 30 projected are Freshmen (along with several 19 year olds from overseas.) This is incredible. It appears very rare for seniors to go in the first round . . . I don't think there was a single guy who was a senior projected to go in the first round.

Whether or not this is a good thing, the level of play and physicality of "elite" guys is on a whole different level. At this point, I am glad to see Michigan doing well, and think they could be very good next year, with Wilson and Wagner.

I'm especially thankful we're not a tire fire similar to what is happening at Ohio State. Their program is going down in flames, and they could be near the very bottom of the Big 10. They don't have a single guy left from a "top 5" class in 2015.

stephenrjking

May 18th, 2017 at 11:29 AM ^

No surprise here. The only people who really thought Michigan had a chance at Bamba were the ones telling themselves that if Wilson stays in the draft we were getting him.

In truth, Wilson, Wagner, and Bamba have nothing to do with each other, because Bamba was never coming here.

StephenRKass

May 18th, 2017 at 12:24 PM ^

If you are offered a boatload of money TODAY, with no guarantee it will be there tomorrow, I certainly could see going for the sure thing today. Some of these kids are not coming from a situation where they have lots of financial security. More than that, if I could be a lottery pick, or at least a top 20 pick, the bonus money would be so good it matters a little bit less if you flame out.

Perkis-Size Me

May 18th, 2017 at 11:31 AM ^

That shouldn't surprise anyone. Outside of the 2012 class, Beilein's recruiting classes have always been anywhere from meh to just good. And my feeling on that is "so what"? 

Beilein has proven over and over that he can find under the radar guys and make them very productive players. If not stars. He's earned the benefit of the doubt on who he recruits into the program. When they play at their best, they can compete with anyone. 

Maizen

May 18th, 2017 at 11:35 AM ^

This sounds a lot like MSU football fans during the Danatonio era, and it's why Beilein's program has experienced so much inconsistency during his tenure. I want to make it clear I think Beilein is a fantastic coach, but I'd like to see him do more with more instead of more with less. If that's controversial, oh well.

BigBlue02

May 18th, 2017 at 12:52 PM ^

Even this comment comes off as you being a dick. A whiny dick that can't take anyone disagreeing with him. Also, I would think injuries and early entrants into the NBA has caused almost all of the inconsistency you're complaining about, but then again, I disagree with you so obviously you have to react like a petulant child. Let's hear it

Maizen

May 18th, 2017 at 1:20 PM ^

You just called me a dick (twice) and a "pentulant child" but expect me to engage with you? 

It's funny you complain about how my posts come off but I would tell you to look in the mirror. Name calling isn't cool, neither is being an internet tough guy.

BigBlue02

May 18th, 2017 at 2:49 PM ^

Your reaction is basically "it has to be everyone else." In the post of yours I was responding to, you blamed everyone for interpreting your comments wrong, took no responsibility for anything, and continue to blame people for needing a safe space while also whining about anyone who disagrees with you. If you aren't a dick, you do an awfully good job of portraying yourself as one online. To top it off, bringing up the fact you went to Michigan as much as you do makes you sound arrogant as fuck. If you are continually being berated on the internet, maybe it's time to look in the mirror rather than blaming everyone else. I can and have made many comments that people disagree with, but everything I say isn't torn apart by the entire MgoCommunity....I wonder why?

Maizen

May 18th, 2017 at 3:04 PM ^

Names you have called me in your last two posts: A "petulant child", "a dick" (twice), an "arrogant fuck", a "whiner."

But I'm the one who needs to change how I post. Shut up and go away.

CLord

May 18th, 2017 at 3:55 PM ^

Give me a guy like Maizen who posts accurate assesments of our coach any day over snowflakes like you who write biblical ad hominem attacks elaborating on the dickish way people like him present their posts.

/Team Maizen

BigBlue02

May 18th, 2017 at 5:45 PM ^

It's amazing that I didn't hear any of Maizen's "accurate assessments" the second half of the basketball season. He bitches about not getting McDonalds all Americans every time recruiting is brought up and completely ignores the amount of NBA draft picks Beilein has had. He doesn't even see the irony in complaining about recruiting for a coach who has regularly spit out NBA players while at Michigan.

uncle leo

May 18th, 2017 at 11:46 AM ^

They've been working out with teams since the combine ended. Not really news worthy here. 

The title on the Freep is beyond mis-leading. "Wagner pegged as first rounder."

Chad Ford has him as 30th because he's a potential "draft and stash" prospect, even though the people at UM Hoops said he has 0 interest in doing that. 

Lil boy blue

May 18th, 2017 at 12:00 PM ^

He chose the place he was most comfortable with, didn't make a spectacle of it and chose someone other than UK, Duke We likely will never be a home for one and dones and that's fine but that's how you make a top class so we should accept that reality. Seems to have worked out okay so far.

Jimmyisgod

May 18th, 2017 at 12:22 PM ^

Bamba is a freak physically, but I see a project offensively, he's a little overrated.  I could see him averaging 6 and 8 with 3 blocks a game for Texas.

He would have been a weird fit with us, but a nice problem to figure out how to use.  There are some very good big men in the conference next season, would have been nice to have them have to shoot over Bamba's 7-9" wingspan.

If Wilson returns we have a chance to be better next season than this past.  If Wilson leaves we better hope that Matthews and Simmons can fully replace Walton and Zak right away, or we could take a step back.

Just beat MSU.

MichiganStan

May 18th, 2017 at 4:28 PM ^

Man that sucks.

I knew we didnt have a chance, but knowing he chose Texas kind of makes it worse because it shows he was willing to snub the elite programs like UK and Duke for a lower tier program like Texas. Too bad he didnt snub em for us