The Baughz

December 17th, 2018 at 8:17 PM ^

Prepare to throw up. Rumors circulating that Fields is highly considering the Buckeyes. This was posted on UGA message boards, so take this with an abundance of grains of salt.

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December 17th, 2018 at 8:25 PM ^

Tate is probably the first Ohio St QB in a long time that doesn’t scare me.

I live in Georgia, and was not impressed at all with Fields.  Seemed like he was on the field only because Smart promised him playing time.  I know he is a freshman, but I’d rather have Milton and McAffery

StephenRKass

December 17th, 2018 at 8:18 PM ^

I think this is a sign of things to come. And honestly, I get it. There really isn't institutional loyalty, but I don't know that there should be. We are rooting for guys wearing maize and blue, but they are largely in semi-pro teams to groom them for the NFL. If every kid wearing maize and blue was wearing scarlet and grey, and every OSU kid was weaing maize and blue, well, 99% of us would root for the color. Not the kids (unless we were parents or were vested in some other way.) Of course, there are some kids who legitimately want to be at a certain program and get a degree from said program. But I think the number of kids in this bin is relatively small. The kids should be paid. As much as we mock OSU, many of the kids are "not coming to play school." Increasingly, I feel many of the kids are there for our entertainment. Given the sums of money involved, I feel that something is wrong with the lack of compensation. These are often kids with questionable academic bonafides. As regards Fields, and Solomon, and Hudson, et al, there are a host of reasons they can choose to transfer, and I don't blame them.

bacon1431

December 17th, 2018 at 8:41 PM ^

Any kid, acros the country, can transfer to any school they want (assuming that school wants them) with no repercussions. You don’t have to sit out an internship for a year. You don’t get denied credits for that first year. The only things different about football players is that there’s an impotent organization (at least when it comes to terms with the people that can actually challenge them - coaches, ADs, conference commissioners, lawyers etc) that has a sham amateurism rules. The majority of people affected by NCAA decisions are student athletes. Student athletes should represent a majority of the decision makers within the NCAA. Until that happens, student athletes will not get a fair shake when the NCAA makes any sort of decision. 

Ghost of Fritz…

December 17th, 2018 at 9:27 PM ^

In terms of his rights to transfer, this UGA QB is no different than any other student.  He is permitted to transfer to any other university that will take him.  And he can do all of the things that students do from day 1 at his new school--take classes, do an internship, study abroad, whatever. 

The NCAA imposes no limit on the rights of the UGA QB to transfer to another school and have the same rights and do all of the same things that the other students at the new school may choose to do.

 

 

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December 17th, 2018 at 8:18 PM ^

Curious to see where he ends up.  Initially a Penn St commit

Purdue with Rondale Moore and that offense scheme...

Not a lock to stay down south...

Mr Miggle

December 17th, 2018 at 8:20 PM ^

Hate to say this, but he was originally committed to Penn State and their QB job is wide open. On a more positive note, PSU's OC then is now the HC at Miss St. 

BornInAA

December 17th, 2018 at 8:21 PM ^

This is just going to get worse.

The NCAA needs to pay players. Both parties need to sign a 4 year contract. P

Same with basketball. No 1 and done.

No more giving out too many scholarships. No more transfers.

 

 

CincyBlue

December 17th, 2018 at 9:45 PM ^

There is some serious issues in the Hershel Walker Building.  Clearly everyone is tired of Kirby’s act!  You can’t lose to Alabama after being up 14 points and keep good talent on the team! Two 5 star QB’s in two years!  Bring back Mark Richt! 

ScooterTooter

December 17th, 2018 at 8:30 PM ^

The difference for those mocking the Michigan fans who have some doubts:

Michigan has recruited 27 top 150 players in the Harbaugh era (2019 included). 

Georgia has recruited 51(!) top 150 players in that same span. 

What that means is that Georgia can more easily replace the loss of a potential starter with an incoming young player because they have almost double the talent to work with. 

PS

5-star wise, Michigan has recruited 3 5-star players. Georgia has recruited....19. 

 

ScooterTooter

December 17th, 2018 at 8:38 PM ^

That's not the point. Georgia can afford to lose highly ranked recruits because they have so many coming in.

Michigan cannot, because they do not recruit on the same level. 

People are mocking Michigan fans who are concerned about losing one of the three 5-star players the coaches have managed to recruit to Michigan (on top of a number of other players who have left) because Georgia happened to lose a 5-star player. 

Its..not smart?

ScooterTooter

December 17th, 2018 at 9:43 PM ^

.........Michigan has lost 12/13 4-star+ players from the 2016/17 classes not including the guys leaving early to the NFL. That's like losing a full class of Michigan-level top end talent. The concerns aren't just about Solomon, which is pretty obvious. They don't have the ability to replace those guys quickly. The people who are mocking Michigan fans who might be concerned about the program honestly seem like a bunch of fucking morons, but I think that's mainly because they think everyone concerned is Diagonal Blue. So perhaps its not their fault, but at the same time, you'd think the Michigan fanbase could discern from DB's purposeful negativity and actual negative trends and news. 

Its not necessarily the end of the world if they can coach up the guys on the roster or the incoming freshmen, but it does make things more difficult. 

bronxblue

December 17th, 2018 at 8:57 PM ^

I'd like to point out on fallacy with your numbers off the bat - Georgia produces a ton more 5* talent in-state, so Georgia recruiting local kids is going to be easier than Michigan trying to pry top guys away from neighboring states with their own top teams.

Also, Georgia has now lost 5* QBs over that same span, with Jacob Eason joining Fields.  

Again, losing Solomon is a big deal.  But you trying to act like a common practice that occurs at all programs is somehow a special pox that only afflicts Michigan is both wrong and lazy.  

ScooterTooter

December 17th, 2018 at 9:21 PM ^

Sigh.

They left because they were passed by someone who was better. Solomon would have started next year. He was already our best interior lineman this year. 

Even taking out the players who are probably leaving for the NFL, Michigan has had roughly a typical Michigan class of 4-star players transfer/kicked out from the two highly ranked classes in the Harbaugh era on a team that has a lot of holes to fill next year. Michigan doesn't have the ability to replace all those guys as quickly as Georgia, so its concerning. 

 

 

ScooterTooter

December 17th, 2018 at 9:47 PM ^

Don't know. 

All I know is that its concerning how much recruiting talent has left from the 2016/17 classes and that Michigan doesn't have the ability to replace that talent easily. 

And that's not what I'm saying. I was under the impression he didn't play because he was hurt? But he's leaving for some reason at a time when he was in line to be the anchor of the DL. 

bronxblue

December 17th, 2018 at 10:14 PM ^

Fields wasn't passed by anyone; he's behind Fromm because he was a true freshman.  Fromm beat out Eason a year before for the starting spot.  There is a non-zero chance that he could come in next year and beat out Fromm.

I don't know where you get the math for the number of kids who have left the program.  Michigan has 14 4* kids per 247 in this class; they've basically averaged that number since Harbaugh arrived, with fewer last year and more the year before.  That's been a typical Michigan class for about as long as I've paid attention; save for your attrition year with Hoke to Harbaugh and RR to Hoke your average 25-ish person class pulls in that number of 4* players.  So if this is a problem then it's one Michigan has dealt with for a long time and will likely continue to do so. 

And for all of Georgia's apparent recruiting dominance they have won exactly 4 more games than Michigan over that span, and due to how that conference is set up had a much easier road than Michigan has had (the SEC East has produced exactly 1 non-Georgia team with 10 or more wins since 2015; the Big Ten East has produced 8 non-Michigan ones, with the chance for more this year).  

I think people get really caught up in raw numbers; if you can divine a difference in players being the #130th in the country vs. the 160th, then you're a better man than me.  But the point of this entire thread is that 5* guys leave programs and no team wants to weather that, yet Michigan and Georgia will.