Houston trades Osweiler to Cleveland for bag of chips
Houston send a 2nd round pick and Brock Osweiler to the Browns, who give Houston a 4th round pick and take on all of his 16 million salary. Cleveland fans?
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Exactly. Osweiler should be booked for larceny in Texas before he crosses state lines.
I can't believe the Browns gave up a fourth...I would have insisted they get a 6th round pick and be happy. What would they have done, waste the best chance at a superbowl?
...A boatload of cap space. Likely more than they can reasonably ( tho this being the Browns reason is always in question) spend this off season. So why not take on a $16 million one year flyer? If it doesn't work out they get the cap space back next off-season. And they pick up a second for a fourth in the process.
March 10th, 2017 at 10:44 AM ^
another QB to roll through their revolving door of QB's.
And Houston needs the cap space to try and sign a QB (Romo). It might actually be a great move by both teams despite how unusual it looks.
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Already lost in the game that is life....surprised he's not more numb to failure.
That guy probably should have followed his friends when they switched from being Browns fans to Steeler fans years ago.
We had more cap room then we could even spend. We only owe Osweiler for one year, so we essentially paid for a 2nd round pick. If we cut RGIII then it will even offset some of that year that we do owe him.
Never at all understood why Houston felt it was necessary to give Osweiler 16 million a year when he did absolutely nothing in Denver to say that he deserved that kind of money. He didn't play bad, but 16 million means you're in the company of Matt Ryan, Aaron Rodgers, Rothlisberger, and some of the other true elite QBs in the league.
Osweiler isn't bad, but he's just a guy. Unfortunately, now that he's going to Cleveland, his career is as good as dead.
But John Elway, aka the NFL's Jerry West, was willing to give him the same deal, he jsut chose to go to Houston instead. I think the bigger issue was not meeting with O'Brien, or getting a sense of what Houston might do offensively, and then not building any sort of rapport with DeAndre Hopkins.
Brock got a few million more in Houston than Denver was willing to offer, but your point still stands.
Glennon just got $15 million a year to be not Jay Cutler (who is way better than Glennon).
QB free agency is always a sellers market, even in an age when there are more competent QBs than ever before.
didn't the Texans pick up free agent Osweiler just a year ago? Not a good choice.
This is an "NBA" trade where we basically just bought a 2nd round pick from the Texans. I doubt Brock ever even suits up for the Browns - we can cut him and take a 10MM cap hit but once we cut RGIII we take 7MM off the books so basically it's going to cost us 3MM for that 2nd rounder.
This year we have two 1st and two 2s. Next year we have 1 1st and 3 2s. We have enough draft capital to go after any QB we want (Garrapolo or Cousins) and we also put together a hell of an o line today in FA.
The boys from Harvard were mocked by the NFL old guard last year. Now they're calling this the most creative trade the NFL has ever seen. Nobody's laughing at us now.
It's also just like us to pretend like we won games in the off season.
I've been getting beat up all day over my feelings about our AD. I ran over to this thread so I can take solice in the fact that for the first time I can remember we're not being laughed at - we're being admired for creativity and our approach.
BTW - just saw a tweet from a Browns insider that said "we aint seen shit yet. Browns have something crazy going on behind the scenes. I'm not sure what it is yet but it's going to be unreal."
Yes - the next steps are for the Browns to shit the bed.
Positivity MUST be outweighed by negativity. It is the way of the Browns (and Lions, I might add).
I hope you're right. You've suffered more than anyone except the Lions.
But, I'm guessing not.
Also a Browns fan, and I'm cautiously optimistic even in spite of the team's decade long crusade to get me to stop rooting for them.
The main thing for Browns fans, now more than ever, is patience. I knew we were going to suck hot turds last year even by our lowly standards. We should be ready to do more of the same this year - we've been so badly mismanaged over the last decade that we're too deep in the whole to rebuild this clusterfuck in only 2 seasons. The thing is - even if the new braintrust won't take us up to the top of the mountain, at this point pulling the plug prematurely again would be the worst thing we could do.
Do you mean crazy like "Hey, Manziel would be a great acquisition for our team" crazy? Because that was unreal.
That Manziel has been airlifted out of a Tijuana brothel and is working out at the Browns training facility.
Are we talking about pistols now? I'm confused. All I know is the Browns still suck
You being confused is not suprising.
I wouldn't laugh at the Texans....they are LOADED on defense (number 1 last year minus JJ Watt) and they managed to rid themselves of the Osweiler cap hit and go get a real QB (romo?). They have a great chance at winning it all this year.
and the best Houston could do to get rid of the guy. But there's a lot of "this then that" in the plan you laid out, hopefully for you it all comes to pass....
I'm pretty sure plenty of people are still laughing.
You state that nobody's laughing at Cleveland now. I'm pretty sure we're all still laughing at Cleveland now.
(And this is from a die-hard* Lions fan.)
*Is there any other type?
Belichek sensed that CLE was unwilling to part with the picks he wanted for Garoppolo, so he told them to go use their huge cap space advantage to absorb Osweiler + picks, knowing that by adding more picks to their draft CLE would be more willing to part with some to get Garropolo.
March 10th, 2017 at 12:05 AM ^
A Cleveland fan telling other they don't get it, that it's brilliant, is funny. That being said, it's a good move by Cleveland, until they get stupid and think they are going to win a championship with Garapolo or Cousins. That isn't going to happen. They shoud take Watson but they won't.