Preview: Ohio State 2017

Submitted by Brian on November 24th, 2017 at 12:41 PM


WHAT Michigan (8-3) vs
Ohio State (9-2)
WHERE Michigan Stadium
Ann Arbor MI           
WHEN Noon Eastern           
November 25th, 2017
THE LINE Vegas: M +12           
S&P+: M +10.3
TICKETS can be had
WEATHER around 40, 5% chance of rain, 15 mph wind


Ohio State lies on the shores of Lake Superior and was founded as a halfway house for drunken vicars, wayward beaver trappers, and all manner of other ne'er-do-wells in the wildernesses of 18th century Western Ontario. In the intervening years, little has changed.

Run Offense vs OSU


it's not a rule that you have to all-caps TUF BORLAND but it might as well be

Michigan's thunderous run of face-mashing came to an abrupt halt last weekend against Wisconsin, when Karan Higdon and Chris Evans managed 45 yards on 18 carries between them. Wisconsin is very, very good and Ohio State has been more prone to weird breakdowns, but that's an ice-cold bucket of water on hopes that Michigan had accomplished anything on the offensive line this year.

Now Michigan gets the #2 rush defense in the country. The #1 line yards D; the #3 success rate D. If Michigan had had a middling to good day against Wisconsin you could squint and project that something good might happen. As it is, not so much unless you want to hang your hat on games against Oklahoma and Iowa. That is your choice. I do not recommend such an approach.

What hope exists is mostly dependent on getting OSU's linebackers in the wrong place. OSU's leading tacklers this year are safeties Jordan Fuller and Damon Webb. This is usually not a great sign for a defense—although OSU seems to be coping just fine—and S&P is registering "successful" plays on approximately 60% of those tackles. The linebacker unit is in flux, with MLB Chris Worley moving back out to the spacebacker spot that he's manned for most of his career and TUF BORLAND emerging as the middle linebacker.  That is not a panacea and it's possible that Michigan's various attempts to get linebackers batting at air will be much more effective Saturday than they were against Wisconsin. 

Also a potential help: Ohio State has simplified what they're trying to do after the Iowa game and that might help Michigan's line calls from being as disastrous as they were against Wisconsin. They're a 4-3 over that is fairly similar to MSU's, and Michigan's run blocking in that game was quite good. Whether good blocking is actually enough to move the ball depends on how aggressive OSU is willing to get with their safeties and if Michigan can put an opposing player in the wrong spot.

Also... Michigan might be facing slightly better players on the opposition DL. It is a vague possibility.


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Pass Offense vs OSU



In a word, nope. Michigan's gestures at Brandon Peters availability a week after he was apparently knocked out on the field are probably more gamesmanship than reality. Scattered mutterings about Wilton Speight maybe getting back are probably in the same category; of late there's been more concern for his career than optimism about his availability. In all likelihood, it's John O'Korn starting against Ohio State.

If that's not enough to turn your stomach, it's the country's #118 sack rate allowed versus the #30 sack rate. That likely understates the OSU line's ability to get to the quarterback. If you've tuned into OSU games this year you've seen just about every opponent gameplan around the fact they can't protect their quarterback, throwing a blizzard of (generally ineffective) WR screens and other quick stuff, like those insta-fades at Simmie Cobbs in the opener. OSU's DL is #1 in havoc rate. It will create havoc against a plainly substandard Michigan OL.

What blips of hope exist are largely because of the Iowa debacle, where OSU's defense was constantly out of position against regular-ass Iowa stuff. Unfortunately, OSU's had a month to identify and fix those issues, which never seemed like long term problems to begin with. Ross Fulton:

Ohio State had even more systematic problems against the pass by being confused in their coverage schemes. Iowa offensive coordinator Brian Ferentz often used spread formations such as trips with base 12 personnel to get advantageous matchups against the Buckeyes’ man coverage. Ohio State’s back seven rarely knew how to align in response.

Most problematically, the Buckeyes were frequently trying to check to different coverages as Iowa was shifting and using motion – checks that often left the Ohio State defense – particularly their linebackers, confused in their assignments. ... the Buckeye back seven simply looked lost – as if they did not practice all week as to how to align against a 12-personnel team.

One week later OSU faced MSU, the closest thing to Michigan's offense this year's Big Ten possesses, and held them to under 200 yards in a 48-3 whomping. Brian Lewerke averaged 3.6 yards an attempt and threw two interceptions.

Michigan can't protect, it's playing a third string quarterback, the only receiver to have any impact over the last few weeks is a true freshman, and they're playing a program that has been preparing for this game all year. Michigan will get a couple things here and there like the Gentry and Hill completions against Wisconsin as they diagnose some likely holes in OSU's coverage; passing downs will be a disaster, and there will be several of them.


Run Defense vs Ohio State


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This is annually an elite rushing offense and this year is no different. OSU is 2nd in S&P+, and #1 in the country at success rate. JK Dobbins, JT Barrett, and Mike Weber are all averaging at least 6.7 yards a carry. Whee!

When OSU has slight struggles it's because opposing rush defenses are able to force Barrett into a ton of carries on zone read plays. One of the hallmarks of OSU's rare losses are box scores featuring as many or more Barrett runs than RB carries. Barrett had 18 attempts against Oklahoma; RBs got the ball just 16 times. Barrett had 14 carries against Iowa; running backs got just 15 attempts. When things are going badly for Ohio State, the tiny slice of Buckeye twitter that I follow is usually typing something along the lines of "it's the third quarter and JK Dobbins has 4 rushes for 71 yards." And... uh... yeah, good point.

Part of that is the nature of the Ohio State offense. Option football does let the opponent dictate who carries the ball. In OSU's case that's usually dictating who carries the ball five or more yards downfield—even in their losses OSU averaged 4.9 and 5.4 yards a carry—but dumping 80% of the offensive load on Barrett seems to get the rest of the offense disjointed and withers the OSU passing game. Barrett averaged just 5.6 YPA in OSU's two losses; he threw five of his seven picks in those games.

OSU has correspondingly focused on ways to muck with the opposition's ability to force a Barrett keep. The Barrett:RB ratio against MSU was 9:33, and Barrett had just five carries in OSU's walkover of Illinois. They will continue in this vein against Michigan; last year OSU started off with a couple of new outside runs that got Michigan blocked to the safety for a couple of chunk plays. M was able to adjust and turn the game into a slog afterwards, but this defense hasn't been quite on the level of last year's.

The line more or less has, and that's where the battle will be won or lost for Michigan. The key player in this game is Michigan's seventh member of the front seven, whether that's Mone, Solomon, or Furbush. If that guy can win against single blocking and Michigan can shut down OSU's inside zone without dedicating extra guys to it, there's just enough to downshift the OSU defense into rockfight Michigan can win.

If it goes more like it did against Penn State, woe, dolorous woe. Because while the matchup superficially looks just like the one Michigan more or less dominated a year ago, you have one and a half starters at every DL spot—or at least you should. Michigan has nothing resembling the depth they did a year ago and a third and short conversion is bad news for them in both the short and long term. Michigan's path to victory here requires the defensive line obliterating the OSU OL. While they should win that matchup, they probably won't be able to win it enough.


Pass Defense vs Ohio State


OSU's passing offense has been wildly inconsistent, but Barrett and a bunch of defenses focused on the run game has been enough to get them to 21st in S&P+. The game to game picture is wild.

Barrett faced Iowa coming off a bravura 33/39 performance against Penn State in a comeback win during which it often seemed like Barrett was the only OSU player who actually wanted to win. The Hawkeyes intercepted him four times and left him baffled on the rest of his throws. The next week against MSU he had 183 yards on just 21 attempts, two touchdowns... and two INTs. Those three games and Oklahoma (183 yards on 35 attempts) are the only OSU games against pulse-bearing opponents, and they paint a strange picture.

Michigan will hope to land on the vicious interceptions side of the spectrum; to do so they will have to heat up Barrett more than most opponents have. OSU's pass protection has turned around this year; they're 30th in adjusted sack rate allowed. In context that's more "meh" than legitimately good, but raise your hand if you'd do something profane if you could make Michigan's pass protection "meh." That's everyone. Right tackle Isaiah Prince was a huge train wreck last year; this year he's showing up on PFF lists as a good player. Michigan will hope that much of that is an artifact of the opposition and he has just as hard a time checking Gary and Winovich as he did Charlton and Wormley a year ago. That's not the worst bet you could make.

Michigan will also hope to get a dismal performance from Ohio State's drop-prone receivers. Coached by money-stealing doofus Zach Smith and apparently unfamiliar with the invention of the jugs machine, OSU receivers have made a bunch of bogglingly bad plays. Since they're still scholarship D-I players those come in bursts and disappear from time to time. One hilariously dropped touchdown would be welcome, and this is a game where I'm perfectly happy to make Barrett try to hit slot fades.

The biggest dangers OSU presents here are RPOs, which have become an increasingly large chunk of the offense as the year goes along, and slot/spread H Parris Campbell in space. If Michigan approaches RPOs the same way they have this year it'll take Hudson or McCray holding their water and dropping into the slant to prevent an easy completion—a task easier said than done against an offense like OSU's. Michigan has gotten incrementally better at this as the year has gone along.

Campbell is not a tactical issue.  Michigan just needs to tackle him. Campbell's capable of taking a dink throw and breaking it into a huge gain. Despite mostly being targeted short, Campbell leads OSU's non-garbage-time crew with 11.5 yards a target. Tyree Kinnel's occasional issues here could result in a big chunk Michigan can't afford to give up.

KEY MATCHUP: GARY AND WINOVICH versus OSU TACKLES. Must arrive early and angry.

Special Teams

Michigan might as well put a potted plant back to return punts. Sophomore Drue Crisman has had one of his 33 punts returned and has a 19:3 inside 20 to touchback ratio. He's also averaging 44 yards a kick. JFC. Kicker Sean Nuernberger is 13/15 on the year.

OSU hasn't gotten much from their return units this year. KJ Hill is a bit of an odd choice as a punt returner and has just 3.5 yards an attempt on 19 returns; Parris Campbell is much more dangerous as a kick returner, with a 37 yard average on 9 cracks.




Cheap Thrills

Worry if...

  • Michigan attempts to pass or run.
  • The defense wears down late.
  • Alex Malzone plays.

Cackle with knowing glee if...

  • JT Barrett has 15 carries by halftime.
  • Also he throws two pick sixes.
  • There are no seconds left and Michigan is ahead somehow.

Fear/Paranoia Level: 9 (Baseline 5; +1 O'Korn Vs Ohio State, +1 for Behind That OL, +1 for Against A Defense That Already Had Its Manball Wakeup Call And Decimated The Next Guy, +1 for We Always Have The Worst Luck In Competitive OSU Games, +1 for I Would Like To Revisit Point #1,  -1 for Maybe Someone Knows Something I Don't And That's Why The Spread Is Only 12?).

Desperate need to win level: 10 (Baseline 5; +5 for The Game.)

Loss will cause me to... get in a fight with some idiot in my twitter mentions.

Win will cause me to... be happy.

The strictures and conventions of sportswriting compel me to predict:

Pretty much the only thing Michigan has going for it is the "throw out the record books" stuff where rivals will store up an entirely different way of being for the final game of hatred. I don't see how that tilts towards Michigan with OSU coming off a drubbing of Illinois and an (admittedly hilarious) hamblasting of MSU; the last time OSU had to put anything new on film was probably the first quarter of that game. Michigan is coming off a road loss to Wisconsin. If they had much in their quiver they didn't show it.

The defense should be able to hold up in most ways since Don Brown has undoubtedly spent a ton of time prepping for this game over the last few weeks of non-QBs, but it won't take much for Ohio State to have a seemingly intractable lead. OSU will be able to sustain a number of drives; paired with Michigan three-and-outs the Hoke-esque valiant effort followed by a fourth quarter crumble seems inevitable.

Offense? Don't talk to me about offense.

Finally, three opportunities for me to look stupid Sunday:

  • O'Korn has more completions than sacks taken. Barely.
  • Barrett throws an ugly pick that keeps Michigan in it through halftime.
  • Ohio State, 28-10.


I Like Burgers

November 24th, 2017 at 12:46 PM ^

Have the same feeling as I did in 2015.  You knew they were going to get murdered.  They got murdered.  And like it was back then, that's fine because the future is still bright.

Also, if you own a house, tomorrow at noon is likely prime put up the Christmas lights time.  Get some fresh air and stay away from the sadness on your TV.


November 24th, 2017 at 1:52 PM ^

Do your best to have a great time. The Game is a pinnacle of sport. College football is awesome. Michigan lost last week but I took a trip to the game with my daughter and had a blast, and my drive home plus things to do kept me from even checking the board for hours. And I was happy for it. 

Have a good time and ignore the haters. It's worth it.


November 25th, 2017 at 2:54 AM ^

I love this blog, spend way too much time on here, almost feel like I kinda know some of you frequent posters in some kinda way - 

But the one goddam thing I cannot fucking stand is that somone (and you can almost name them with a reasonable guess) is SO fucking invested in Michigan losing to support their own narrative, that they negged mGrowOld's attempt to introduce some levity and some positivity.

I mean, seriously - WTF is wrong with someone who'd neg that post?

You're bad, and I HOPE you feel bad!!!

You Only Live Twice

November 24th, 2017 at 1:33 PM ^

i'm holding out hope - as I type, Pitt just went up on Miami again - and I think it's smart to have a backup plan just in case.  As nice as it would be to join fellow MGoBloggers on the board after the game, if we don't win, the combination of trolls and real fans melting down will be more stress than it's worth.  

Backup plans here are both for the short and long term.

Short term:  Get some chores done, holiday decorations etc.  Good Netflix movie awaiting.  Get a head start on some brand new tedious work projects that have just come my way.  

Longer term:  Plan a trip.  Perferably on a beach somewhere so I can go soak my head.

SC Wolverine

November 24th, 2017 at 1:02 PM ^

That is exactly my plan.  I might as well put the two must frustrating experiences together: M getting pounded by the Buckeyes and strings of lights inexplicably failing once their removal requires the erasing of five hours work.

*The 2015 game was one of the more miserable experiences ever.  The boys and I drove up from South Carolina, froze near to death in the stands, and by the mid-third quarter it was clear that Durkin did not have an adjustment to the bludgeoning being administered by Elliott.  My brother, who joined us and does not follow college football, kept saying, "I wonder if that safety who is playing fifteen yards off the ball should come closer to the line."  I'm still bitter for DJ spending the week negotiating a contract rather than preparing a game plan.

I Like Burgers

November 24th, 2017 at 7:33 PM ^

Its the same reason I don't watch horror movies.  I can choose to sit there for 90min and be disturbed/grossed out/scared/etc...or I can do literally anything else.  Same thing goes for this particular Michigan game.  I can choose to sit there for 3 hours and be disturbed/annoyed/angry...or I can do literally anything else.

I'll keep an eye on the score in case miracles happen and its close, but planning on actively watching Ohio State punch our faces in for yet another year is not high on my list of fun ways to spend the early part of my afternoon.


November 24th, 2017 at 1:02 PM ^

But with O'Korn in OSU will be stopping the run. Eventually our D will ware down as it has most of the season. The only way I see OSU scoring 50 or more is if JOK throws a number of pic 6 or has a repeat of the 6 TO MSU game.  OSU 38 - UM 9. I'll be rooting for WI in the B1G championship game, that is for sure!


November 24th, 2017 at 1:10 PM ^

All I can say is thank fucking god it's not another night game. Kickoff is at 10 PM here in Islamabad. I'd have gotten up at 5:30 but I wouldn't have been happy about it. 10 PM will do just nicely. 

KC Wolve

November 24th, 2017 at 1:17 PM ^

For some reason, even though I feel the exact same

way and don’t see a chance in hell of UM even keeping it close, reading that made me feel worse.

Your tip just decreased.

I dumped the Dope

November 24th, 2017 at 5:16 PM ^

I agree about staying in lanes, rather than running 11 yards up the field trying to  beat the Tackle on a speed rush.  That always ends badly.

I had this idea  in my mind all night long...bring out 9 OL-ish people, QB + RB, FBs out at the wide receiver spots.  Which looks stupid of course at first, but start bringing the pain against the CBs and try to soften up the edges on run run run.   The potential mismatch that could be created out there seems like it could be an advantage.  If the CBs start playing off then there's green field out there.  If they press then smash them into the field.  Seems like LBs would flow but have to pick thru trash out at the edges.  Occam's Razor says it won't work otherwise everyone would be doing  But I'd still like to see it tried.  In a potentially lopsided mismatch you need to take some risks and hit on them...


November 24th, 2017 at 1:19 PM ^

I have absolutely no faithwe can win this game..and I HATE that...Nothing much as really changed other than beating the middle of the road teams..At least we are getting to bowl games every year so thats ONE thing that has improved I guess


November 24th, 2017 at 3:19 PM ^

Unless we beat OSU tomorrow, when it comes to wins and losses, the only difference between Harbaugh and his two predecessors is that Harbaugh is beating the teams we should beat. 

Wins and losses are what matter.  If our defense was middle of the pack, but we were going to the Indianapolis and the CFP, we would all be happy.