Hello: Phil Martelli And Howard Eisley Comment Count

Brian June 4th, 2019 at 11:26 AM

Michigan has a couple of assistant coaches. One of them, Phil Martelli, has a track record so long that he's literally the entire history of a school on Kenpom. The other one not so much. The guy with the copy and paste first.

PHIL MARTELLI: SQUINT AND IT'S BEILEIN-ISH

Martelli took over St Joe's after an extended low point. The Hawks hadn't been to an NCAA tournament since 1986 when he was hired a decade later; in Martelli's second year he snagged a four seed and reached the Sweet 16. Three losing conference seasons followed, and then Martelli began what's probably the greatest five-year span in St Joe's history. The Hawks went 68-12 in conference, won the A10 five straight times, got three NCAA bids, and reached the Elite 8 as a one seed after an undefeated regular season featuring a Jameer Nelson/Delonte West backcourt.

After this belle epoque St Joe's settled into a 14-year period of meh. From 2005-06 to this year St Joe's never finished higher than third in the A10 and acquired three bids, advancing to the second round once. It was rare for St Joe's to have a legitimately bad team during this period, but Martelli would never approach those heights again.

Two things ultimately sunk Martelli's tenure: a new athletic director and a spate of injuries. This year's Three Man Weave A10 preview:

Outlook: Will it ever stop? St. Joe’s has been crushed by injuries for two consecutive seasons, derailing potential A-10 contenders before they could ever really get going. Shavar Newkirk went down early in 2016-17, eventually followed by his point guard counterpart, Lamarr “Fresh” Kimble, and Pierfrancesco Oliva missed the entire season due to a knee injury. Then, Kimble managed only one game in 2017-18 before succumbing to the very same injury, a broken fifth metatarsal in his left foot. Of course, that was one more game than promising sophomore Charlie Brown got to play after fracturing his wrist in mid-October, and just like that, the Hawks were down two key pieces one game into the season. Despite that, they still clawed to a 10-8 league record, and with those two back healthy this year, there’s reason for optimism in northwest Philly.

It did not stop. Oliva played in just 13 games before going out for the year in mid-January. Kimble missed 10 games in the heart of the conference schedule. St Joe's went 6-12 in A10 play and that was that.

Martelli's tenure was so long that it's impossible to judge what a normal level for St Joe's is. It's probably something approximating the meh portion of Martelli's career. The school is a small (under 5k undergrads) Jesuit institution that had been to one Sweet 16 since 1966 when he was hired. The arena is a tiny band-box with a capacity of 4,200. Until 2009 its capacity was 3,200. Membership in Philly's Big 5 counts for something; it's unlikely Martelli's successor is going to improve on even the desultory late period.

[After THE JUMP: Martelli's style of play and recruiting, plus everything I could find about Howard Eisley, which was not much.]

STYLE OF PLAY

While Martelli hasn't been as consistent at turnover avoidance as John Beilein—who is?—his tenure looks like a version of Beilein who doesn't have access to the same level of recruits and didn't import Donlon/Yaklich. St Joe's:

  • has been top 5 in turnover rate three of the last four years and was similarly excellent during the belle époque.
  • abandons the offensive boards to get back in transition.
  • plays a conservative keep 'em in front style of defense that more or less allows the opposition to shoot in exchange for low foul rates and excellent defensive rebounding.

Martelli's teams have bounced up and down in their ability to shoot; that looks like a talent issue because things are all over the board. When they're good it's usually because there's a guy like DeAndre Bembry, who developed into a first round pick as a junior, or Langston Galloway, a shooting guard who hit 43% of his 806(!!!) career 3s.

Three Man Weave has a useful overview:

Martelli is widely known for his conservative, paint-clogging mix of man and zone defenses, sacrificing turnovers and guarding the three-point line to take away drives, the offensive glass, and chances at the free throw line. The offense also rarely turns the ball over and eschews the offensive glass, so transition chances are few and far between, as well. To beat them, you need to hit jumpers… The scheme helps compensate for the team’s lack of shot-blocking, as big men Taylor Funk, Oliva, and Anthony Longpre aren’t vertically explosive. …

That offense will look to score in two steps: first, they’ll get the ball to Kimble and play in transition …If that fails, they’ll run an inverted offense in the halfcourt featuring the shooting of Funk, Oliva, and Longpre, often playing through Oliva up top or at the high post. That allows them to utilize his passing and making the opposing big men uncomfortable out on the perimeter.

Martelli should be kept away from the defense. He's spent 24 years trying to mitigate for the fact that he can't get Jon Teske to save his life, and Howard probably has that down just fine. His role will be as an all-purpose How Do I Do This reference.

RECRUITING

On the one hand, it's hard to imagine someone with more connections across a broad swath of the East Coast. Martelli has been recruiting Philly, New Jersey, New York, and environs for nearly a quarter-century. And it sounds like he's got a legion of dudes who will go to bat for him and a Sizeable Personality:

PHILADELPHIA — Phil Martelli heckled a CBS broadcaster, rose from a coffin on his own TV show, predicted the Eagles to win the Super Bowl at a chicken wing eating contest and turned a tiny school in Philadelphia into the talk of college basketball.

On the other hand Martelli never snagged a top 100 guy and was usually in the back half of the A10. Again, Martelli's endless tenure makes it hard to tell whether his inability to pop up and grab the occasional four star is a Martelli thing or a St Joe's thing.

At Michigan, Martelli will open a lot of doors. It'll be up to the other guys to walk through them.

MEANWHILE, EISLEY

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Eisley's was a star at BC, an early second round pick, and the definition of a journeyman across a 12-year NBA career. He's been an assistant in the NBA for about a decade now.

I was going to give Eisley his own post but there is almost nothing about him on the internet. Except this, which is amazing.

This makes me feel a better about Howard, because there was a ton of stuff about what a dude he is. Turns out that's not a usual thing for NBA assistants. In fact, in my search for Eisley stuff I ran across an Undefeated article in which Eisley made an honorable mention list of black NBA assistants who should get head jobs. Howard was on the list proper:

Fizdale comment: “You’re talking about a first-class professional as a leader, the way he will represent himself in the organization and the way he treats people. He is built to be a head coach that way. You add the absolute DNA of winning and success on and off the court and the Heat culture and his ability to communicate, he is definitely a guy who should be looked at and considered.”

Eisley got a mention in the Etc. section.

I've scoured all the blogs for takes—again fairly common for Howard—and didn't turn up much. It's a good sign that he was the one survivor when the Knicks cast aside Doomed Coach A for Doomed Coach B. So: shruggie.

Eisley was Jalen Rose's high school teammate at Southwestern and should be useful recruiting Detroit. Probably? Eisely's never recruited.

Comments

MGlobules

June 4th, 2019 at 11:39 AM ^

Thanks for the Eisley anecdote. Might take a certain kind of rare humility not to sock Jerry Sloan in the jaw. Meanwhile, I will never give Sloan the time of day again.

lhglrkwg

June 4th, 2019 at 12:10 PM ^

I'm excited for Martelli. I think one of the main reservations about Juwan is his unfamiliarity with coaching in college. I think it's an excellent idea to get a guy like Martelli to basically be Associate HC / Mentor to the Head Coach. Should mean that - while there will be bumps in the road - Juwan won't be wandering up and down State St wondering how to do this thing.

NCBlue22

June 4th, 2019 at 12:12 PM ^

On the moving screen pod Brendan and Dylan were talking about how Juwan and Eisley have been friends for a long time, presumably from the Jalen Rose connection.  I thought they made a good point that having a friend to lean on during some inevitable tough times (and long nights) could be valuable.  Clearly that didn't solely get him the job- but it doesn't hurt.

The other point is that Eisley clearly will work with the guards and they needed someone to fill that role.   

TrueBlue2003

June 4th, 2019 at 12:17 PM ^

I like the Martelli hire as the experienced college head coach on the staff.  He's probably the best former HC available. His fall from the top of CBB coincided with Jay Wrights rise at Nova and there's no shame in losing out to arguably the best coach in college basketball at a much more storied program. 

He opens doors on the east coast, and I LOVE that he represents a good chance for offensive continuity. Also, Simpson has some Jameer Nelson in him (minus the jump shot). Mini bulldog slicing through the defense to set guys up.  Let's see some of that.

The Eisley hire seems meh.  Kind of a poor man's Juwan Howard it sounds like so hard to see what he brings to the table.

One thing appears certain:  Juwan elected to take on the defense himself (EDIT: take the lead/a chance on defense) so he's put a lot of pressure on himself.  If Michigan falls far out of the top 10 on defense with seniors Simpson and Teske and junior Livers, it will be a fail.

TrueBlue2003

June 4th, 2019 at 12:31 PM ^

Fine "himself" might not be the right word.  But he's taking the lead on defense.  Not a surprise given that he kind of had that role at Miami but there was a thought he could delegate defense and focus on learning the ins and outs of program management, head coaching, etc.

I'm just saying it appears that he's delegating more of the program management or at least getting  a lot of help from Martelli on it, and will focus on defense or at least be responsible for it (because if they do take a step back, whomever he has doing it, wouldn't be doing as well as the guy they let walk).

As for the other spots, Brooks was better than (slightly) than Poole on defense last year.  Livers is right up there with Matthews and Iggy was a meh freshmen.  Replacing him on that end of the floor shouldn't be difficult.  Add in the fact that backup center should be much improved with Castleton in his second year and the personnel will arguably be better than last year:

On defense:

Sr Simpson > Jr Simpson

Jr Brooks > So Poole

?? >= Fr Iggy (this may depend on Wilson who would probably be better than Iggy was last year, there's also a chance Livers slides to the three and Johns starts at the four)

Livers < Matthews

Sr Teske > Jr Teske

So Castleton > Whatever that was last year

1VaBlue1

June 4th, 2019 at 1:00 PM ^

"...he represents a good chance for offensive continuity."

Give up on continuity and give JH's offense a chance.  Beilein is gone and not coming back - his offense went with him.  It is not fair - at all - to expect any 'continuity' in schemes when the entire coaching staff changes.

"If Michigan falls far out of the top 10 on defense with seniors Simpson and Teske and junior Livers, it will be a fail."

You're expecting a lot from something we've never seen.  So they finish 11th in defense, you're really going to tell us the season was a fail?  I call BS...

It's fair to expect a good team, but it is not fair to expect a Beilein-esque approach.  We have no idea what JH has in mind for offense or defense, so settle down and watch it happen without preconceived notions about failure before camp even starts...

snarling wolverine

June 4th, 2019 at 1:32 PM ^

Actually Beilein's associate head coach (Washington) is still here.  And really, Beilein's general philosophy (four or five guys out, emphasizing the three and shots at the rim) has taken over the game.  We may not run exactly the same sets/actions but Juwan's offense almost certainly will look more like Beilein's than say, Tommy Amaker's.  

TrueBlue2003

June 4th, 2019 at 1:44 PM ^

Is 11th far out of the top 10?  I said if they fall far out of the top 10.  And yes, that would be a fail given that they have a lot of elite, experienced and (previously) well-coached defenders.  It doesn't matter what JH has in mind for defense. I don't have to see it. If the result is significantly outside of the top 10 with what he's inherited, the defense will be a failure.  That's assuming relatively good health.  If Teske or someone were to get hurt, of course, expectations change.

Also, I didn't say the season would be a failure.  If they somehow manage to make this team a top 10 offense and have a great season in exchange for whatever they'd be giving on defense, it won't be a failure overall.  Context matters when evaluating an entire season (but that scenario is pretty unlikely for this group).

I think you're 100% incorrect about giving up on continuity on offense.  When Brady Hoke took over a RichRod team led by Denard Robinson they made a concerted effort (correctly) to have some continuity on offense, even though that wasn't their preferred style and they didn't have experience coaching that way.

The comment "his offense went with him" is so insane.  When RichRod left, did we throw our hands up and be like, welp, there's no possible way we can run those concepts without the all-knowing, mystical RichRod?  It's gone forever.

It makes complete sense for JH to want some continuity because that's what his players have been doing for years, regardless of what his offense is - if he even has one.  Just as we hoped Brady Hoke wouldn't scrap the spread schemes and make Denard a pocket passer, we can hope JH doesn't completely scrap what these guys have been doing for years and what fits their skills. 

Juwan wants to win. He doesn't have to copy JB's playbook, but staying a pick and roll based team that plays deliberately so as to not turn it over, and doesn't crash the offensive boards so as to get back on D makes a lot of sense with the personnel Michigan has. At least until Simpson and Teske graduate, you'd be crazy not to force the opponent to try to score in the half court (which for the offense means not turning it over and not getting out of position on rebounds).

 Those are the concepts I hope they continue to emphasize. Hiring Martelli is a good signal that JH thinks so as well.

 

SirJack II

June 4th, 2019 at 12:29 PM ^

I got really confused between Howard (Eisley) / (Juwan) Howard in the Eisley section. But it's my fault, you were consistent in your use of last names.

Vinny The Microwave

June 4th, 2019 at 1:10 PM ^

I hope this works out.

I get the feeling that if MSU or OSU made the same hires, we would be laughing and celebrating the perceived downslide this would seem to be ushering in for them.

We shall see I guess.

At the end of the day, these 2 don't appear to be top-notch recruiters and Howard himself gets an incomplete grade on recruiting.  

If this was MSU, we would be laughing about it and celebrating about the coming dominance.

But maybe Howard will be a great recruiter and Martelli somehow turns into one after 3 decades of coaching and young blue chippers know who Howard Eisley is and they love him.  

I will keep my torch and pitchfork in the shed for a while I suppose.

Vinny The Microwave

June 4th, 2019 at 3:27 PM ^

You are way too deep in the BPONE man.

 

Been too deep in the BPONE since my infancy man.  Dyed in the wool BPONE.  I am just a cynical asshole.  Not happy about it but even with therapy, I can't pull myself out of it.  But at least I am a highly functioning cynical asshole now and have found success in work and life.

Brianj25

June 4th, 2019 at 1:30 PM ^

I’m in the same boat. People keep reassuring me that I don’t have to worry about Martelli’s concerning resume as head coach because he’s not here to be head coach. He’s just here to do all the things a head coach ordinarily does since that’s where Howard needs supplementation. Which sounds an awful lot like he’s here to play the role of a head coach, even if we’re not calling him that. 

I fully expect up be down-voted without receiving any substantive response to this concern. 

snarling wolverine

June 4th, 2019 at 1:54 PM ^

We're not asking Martelli to be the head coach.  We're asking Juwan Howard, who was Erik Spoelstra's right-hand man the last six years, to be that guy.   However, having a guy like Martelli on hand is very useful.  He can help mentor Juwan in his new role.  But that's not to say that we've secretly hired him and made Juwan a figurehead, which you seem to be implying.  

Brianj25

June 4th, 2019 at 2:21 PM ^

I'm not implying that Howard is a figurehead - I'm making it explicit I'm concerned that is what's going on here. 

I'm not sure how "Martelli is useful because he knows how to be a head coach" is supposed to alleviate my concern that he's going to effectively play the role of head coach. We can all agree that we would not have been satisfied if we hired Martelli as head coach - I don't know why giving him a bundle of responsibilities that would ordinarily be undertaken by the head coach but slapping the "assistant" label on him makes a difference. To top it off, I'm not sure how anybody is confident that Howard, a complete unknown here, is a better option at head coach than Martelli, who again would've been a completely unsatisfactory option as head coach. This hire and the ostensible reasoning for it belies any sense of confidence the athletic department had that Howard could handle the head coaching responsibility.

But here I am being told to just shut up and ignore all the red flags here and pretend there's nothing to be concerned about. 

jakerblue

June 4th, 2019 at 2:01 PM ^

Or they are getting him to mentor Juwan on all the administrative stuff that college head coaches have to do. All the intricacies with scheduling, time management, practice limitations, academics, etc. that they don't have to deal with in the pros. So Juwan can just focus on being a basketball coach without getting overwhelmed by all of that.

Seems like a pretty good idea to go get someone who has been a head coach for over 20+ years and has spent time on the rules commitee to be that guy.

Your assertion is basically that Juwan is a puppet coach which doesn't make sense since Martelli is getting hired well after Juwan was.

Brianj25

June 4th, 2019 at 2:52 PM ^

In other words they're bringing him in to do all the things a head coach ordinarily does, so that Juwan can just focus on doing the things that an associate HC or assistant ordinarily does. That seems to be exactly what everyone is saying, just phrased in a way that makes the situation sound much more appealing. "We're not evicting you, we're just changing all the locks so you can't get back in." 

Why not just hire a head coach who can handle the head coaching responsibilities and an assistant coach who can handle the assistant responsibilities?

Better yet, why not hammer down the gas pedal and give Howard a full vote of confidence and hire an assistant whose primary utility is recruiting, and bring someone like Martelli on in an actual director/advisor/mentor/compliance role for a fraction of the cost? 

InterM

June 4th, 2019 at 2:12 PM ^

Give it a rest, dude.  You got a comprehensive response -- frankly, more than you deserved -- to this same concern trolling in the other assistant coaching thread.  Go read that if you actually want to understand why the Martelli hire can't possibly be viewed as threatening JH's position as head coach -- though actual understanding doesn't seem to be your goal.

Let's put it this way -- I'm 100 percent sure that JH is confident of his role as head coach and his full authority over the basketball team.  If it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me, notwithstanding your alleged "concern."

Brianj25

June 4th, 2019 at 2:37 PM ^

"The questions you raise don't comport with the way I want to see things so I'm going to completely dismiss them" is not exactly what I would call a "comprehensive response." 

I'm not questioning Howard's authority or confidence. I'm questioning why he was hired as the head coach in the first place if we're going to follow that up by bringing in a guy whose purported utility to the program is knowing how to head coach. 

Blind faith in these moves might be good enough for you, but I can assure you I am not alone in wondering if this is the best way we could've handled Beilein's departure. 

InterM

June 4th, 2019 at 3:00 PM ^

"We" didn't follow up Juwan Howard's hire as head coach by bringing in Martelli.  Juwan Howard made that hire.  You can call that "blind faith" if you like, but I prefer to view it as a head coach exercising his preogative to choose an assistant with a complementary skill set.  That's what head coaches do, and ones who are confident in their position aren't afraid to hire an assistant with head coach credentials.

Brodie

June 5th, 2019 at 9:55 AM ^

 I think the bigger problem here is that you are starting with a baseline premise that Martelli is somehow one of the worst coaches in the country or something. While I would have been disappointed with him being our head coach, he was probably in the 60th percentile of available options. It's not a huge leap from the Providence guy to him.

 

This would be like a first-time head coach bringing in Frank Solich as their offensive coordinator. I think people would be cool with it.

Brianj25

June 5th, 2019 at 1:33 PM ^

Of course I don't think he's one of the worst coaches in the country. I think he's a guy who just got fired from a mid-major despite having tenure of more than a quarter-century. His experience and knowledge would've been extremely useful in an advisory role somewhere in the men's basketball program or athletic department. He would not have been my first choice for the quasi-head coach role that everyone is telling me he'll be playing here. I don't dislike the idea of bringing him on in an assistant capacity per se. I dislike the idea of bringing him on in an assistant capacity to effectively carry out many of the responsibilities of a head coach in an attempt to solve the problem we created by hiring a head coach who's in over his head. 

jmblue

June 4th, 2019 at 1:21 PM ^

Martelli is widely known for his conservative, paint-clogging mix of man and zone defenses, sacrificing turnovers and guarding the three-point line to take away drives, the offensive glass, and chances at the free throw line. The offense also rarely turns the ball over and eschews the offensive glass, so transition chances are few and far between, as well.

That actually sounds quite a bit like us in the late Beilein era, aside from that we didn't play much zone.

bcnihao

June 5th, 2019 at 1:57 PM ^

I believe the quote means Martelli's defense didn't emphasize getting turnovers and didn't emphasize contesting 3-point shots.  Otherwise, the main point about paint-clogging doesn't make sense.  Beilein's defense was similar in not emphasizing turnovers, but Coach B's defense did emphasize contesting 3-pt. shots.

umchicago

June 4th, 2019 at 2:17 PM ^

I love this Martelli quote after his hiring:

 

“I know exactly how to stay in my lane,” Martelli said. “The beauty here is that I think we’ll be able to close the door in a meeting and we can discuss, and we can argue, and we can debate, and do all that stuff. But when that door opens, and we walk out, it will be Juwan’s answers. I don’t have a drop of blood in me that will not be fiercely, fiercely loyal.”