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11/25/2017 – Michigan 20, Ohio State 31 – 8-4, 5-4 Big Ten

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[Bryan Fuller]

John O'Korn sat in a press conference on Saturday and broke down. He blamed himself, and himself alone, for Michigan's latest loss to Ohio State. And he was correct. I don't think I've ever seen a Michigan-Ohio State game so clearly decided by one guy's inability to hack it.

Previous terrible individual performances have been given in concert. The 2007 game featured Chad Henne without a throwing arm, but it also featured an offensive line that had to drag Alex Mitchell out of retirement midseason and the infamous picture that resulted. Nick Sheridan averaged 3.6 yards an attempt the year after, but nobody missed the forest for that particular tree as Michigan finished a 3-9 season with a 42-7 loss. And so forth and so on. The sad fact of the last decade of Michigan football is that when Michigan gets in a competitive game against Ohio State it's usually because someone is playing over their head.

This was different. This was Michigan feeling like the better football team except for one glaring black hole at the most important position on the field. The crowd felt the agony of this keenly with every errant pass or unnecessary sack. O'Korn was not booed, per se, but the desperate groans that issued involuntarily from the assembled masses were almost worse. There's a certain tenor of "ohhhawwww" a crowd can issue that is the pure, distilled sound of frustration. I have memorized this after Saturday, and find it replaying in my head whenever there's a spare neuron not playing Baby Signing Time songs. (This is rarely.)

Even after all those moans Michigan had not one but two shots to go ahead very late. Those ended with back-to-back throws that are burned into the retinas of every Michigan fan and will be replayed when "John O'Korn" is mentioned. Possibly even corn. Or Korn. I can't mention my Pandora station ever again on this website. Those throws were a fourth and four pass that went yards over the head of a screamingly wide open Chris Evans and an interception on which two Michigan receivers were open, and not within 20 yards of the ball.

That is O'Korn's football gravestone, chiseled, checked, and done.

O'Korn knows it, and wasn't going to offer up any bullshit platitudes afterwards. Say what you want about his play—although I can't imagine there's any excoriation in any language that hasn't already been delivered—but the guy did not shy away from the enormity of the thing that had just happened to him, a living, breathing human who has to go through the next sixty years introducing himself to people and hoping they've never heard of the most popular sport in America.

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At about the same time O'Korn was breaking down in public, someone logged on to this website and typed "fuck John O'Korn," into it, posted it, and then got a bunch of upvotes. A guy who started arguing with the various toxic manbabies in this thread that O'Korn was a virtually unpaid person thrust into a position he should never have been in was consistently downvoted.

After taking down several threads and banning a dozen people I yanked commenting for about a day. Naturally, this resulted in these same people fleeing to twitter to tell me it was PATHETIC that I COULDN'T HANDLE NEGATIVITY, because I didn't want them throwing their poop in a place I feel responsible for. And I didn't want to wonder what they were saying while I was doing anything other than commenting on Michigan football. Also, I hate them.

If you're one of these people reading this column I'd like to make it clear that there is something wrong with you. The vast majority of people who come to this site don't post on it, because it is like every other website in the world. Those that do are split between normal people with something to say, and you, the person too dumb to know you shouldn't say anything. You are a tiny minority of this fanbase that gets outsized attention because you're dumb and loud, and most people are willing to throw away the good parts of the comments because of you:

Next football season will not be like this, because you will be gone from this website. If you have any doubt in your mind whether I'm talking about you, yes, I am talking about you. If you're mad at Ace for saying the fanbase is the worst part of his job, I'm talking about you. Because he's not talking about 90% of the fanbase, he's talking about you.

No one needs to yell at John O'Korn, who clearly understands the implications of what just occurred in ways you do not. Nobody needs to say anything to John O'Korn ever again. Dude needs a hug and a Malaysian passport. And even though O'Korn just set a winnable Ohio State game on fire in a way that has probably never happened before or will happen again, I care a lot more about his feelings than some jabroni on the internet who doesn't have to introduce himself under his screen name.

That's it. There's no big sweeping theme here, nothing about the direction of this program or where this fits in the historical firmament. Just an incredibly obvious black hole...

...and a bunch of people who are incapable of seeing it.

AWARDS

Known Friends And Trusted Agents Of The Week

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#1 Rashan Gary. Finally got a little sack luck, as Devin Bush flushed Barrett to him on one of his two sacks. He added a third TFL amongst ten tackles, which is a very large number for a DE, especially because he missed a big chunk of OSU's first TD drive with a recurrence of the shoulder stinger (or similar injury) that he's been battling all season.

#2 Mike McCray. Eight solo tackles and two TFLs as McCray was a major factor in Michigan's ability to keep OSU to under 200 yards of offense until a late fade, none of which was on him. He didn't get edged, and managed to survive the return of Oh No Mike McCray On A Flanked Out Running Back without getting targeted.

#3(T) Chris Evans and Karan Higdon. Michigan's tailback duo had 165 yards on 28 touches, 5.9 yards a pop. Evans caught five passes as Michigan finally paid off on that preseason hype; Higdon was able to get the corner a couple times as well. If the offensive line can come together next year one or both are candidates to have All Big Ten season... or at least they would be if they weren't going to cannibalize each others' carries.

Honorable mention: Mo Hurst and Devin Bush turned in excellent performances; Michigan's cornerbacks again almost pitched a shutout, albeit with the aid of a couple drops. DPJ set up Michigan's second touchdown. Mason Cole had an edge two for one that sprung Crawford early in the third to get Michigan's third TD.

KFaTAotW Standings.

9: Rashan Gary(T2 Indiana, #1 Rutgers, T2 Wisconsin, #1 OSU).   
8:
Devin Bush (#1 Florida, T2 Cincinnati, T2 Air Force, #1 Purdue), Mo Hurst (#1 MSU, #2(T), Indiana, #1 Wisconsin),  Karan Higdon (#1 Indiana, #2 PSU, T2 Minnesota, T3 OSU).
6: Mason Cole (#1 Cincinnati, T2 Rutgers, T3 Minnesota), Chase Winovich(#1 Air Force, #2a Purdue, T2 Wisconsin),
5: Khaleke Hudson (T2 Cincinnati, #3 PSU, #1 Minnesota), David Long (T3 Indiana, #1 PSU, #3 Maryland)    
4: Chris Evans(T2 Minnesota, #2 Maryland).   
3: Ty Isaac (#2, Florida, #3 Cincinnati), Lavert Hill(#2 MSU, T3 Indiana)), Josh Metellus (#1 Maryland), Mike McCray(T2 Air Force, #2 OSU).
2: Quinn Nordin (#3 Florida, #3 Air Force), John O'Korn (#2 Purdue), Sean McKeon(T3 Purdue, #3 Rutgers), Mike Onwenu(T2 Rutgers),
1: Tyree Kinnel (T2 Cincinnati),  Zach Gentry (T3 Purdue), Brad Robbins(#3 MSU), Brandon Watson (T3 Indiana), Ben Bredeson(T3 Minnesota), Donovan Peoples-Jones (#3 Wisconsin).

Who's Got It Better Than Us Of The Week

The entire first quarter? Yes, that.

Honorable mention: Oh man I should not have used up the whole first quarter before the honorable mention section. That was a real good first quarter. Oh: Kekoa Crawford

imageMARCUS HALL EPIC DOUBLE BIRD OF THE WEEK.

Of the two chiseled, checked, and done plays the Evans miss stands out since it was a wide open guy less than ten yards downfield.

Honorable mention: Various other things that happened when Michigan dropped back to pass. I could tell you about them, but you know. Metellus gets lost on two late drag routes. Watson misses a third and thirteen PBU. Nordin misses an XP.

[After THE JUMP: less than usual, i tellya]

OFFENSE

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open guys everywhere [Fuller]

That gameplan, man. The number of wide open receivers Michigan was able to scheme truly boggled. McKeon on a wheel route in the endzone; DPJ running an out well past the LB's zone drops on a rollout; Hill in the flat a couple times; Ty Wheatley on the first snap as Michigan revived that double fake screen play from a couple years back; Evans on infamy play. Harbaugh and the offensive braintrust could not have given Michigan a better shot at this game.

There will inevitably be complaints about a run-pass ratio of 29:39, but I don't know, man. If you've given your QB a wide open guy to throw to a few yards downfield and he doesn't do it, I don't know what to do with that. O'Korn performance in this game was so far beyond even his bad performances earlier in the season that I don't think it's reasonable to gameplan around that. Or even if you can. OSU entered this game with the #2 rush defense in the country; it's highly likely that a heavy run, I-form big gameplan is worse than what Michigan managed.

The silver lining. That last interception gave us some insight into the details of the offense since the post-game discussion of it mentioned that Crawford had correctly cut off his route and O'Korn misread it. Michigan's using various option routes in their offense; I know that Michigan has varied between that NFL-style approach and a simpler paint-by-numbers scheme over the past decade. It's not a surprise that Harbaugh and Pep Hamilton are using the former. Another reason the WRs' youth was a big problem.

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[Fuller]

Chris Evans, space merchant. After a rough first half of the season, Chris Evans had an outstanding close. Michigan got better at getting him the ball in space to operate and he consistently made the most of those opportunities. He was repeatedly able to edge Ohio State back seven players, and while those guys may be a bit iffy at reading defenses they're amongst the best athletes in the country. Evans thus established he is, too.

In this game he was able to set up Michigan's first touchdown by turning a flare screen into a first down on third and twelve. The playcall got him about seven of those yards as Evans's motions bought him a major lateral advantage on a guy trying to cover him in man; Evans was able to dodge that guy and spin through a second to convert and get down to fullback territory.

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[Fuller]

Higdon was about as effective in his time; in the shot above he's just turned the corner on Jordan Fuller, that near five-star S out of NJ Michigan lost to OSU late a couple cycles ago. He's amply demonstrated his top-class athleticism late this season.

Full circle. Your right tackle for most of the second half: Jon Runyan Jr. This of course brings the position all the way back to where it was this spring, when Runyan started the spring game and was the presumed leader through most of fall camp. Nolan Ulizio emerged literally the last week before the season, struggled, and got replaced by Juwann Bushell-Beatty. JBB was a clear upgrade for most of the year but still seemed very iffy in pass protection; he was one of many Michigan blockers who met a brick, Badger-shaped wall last week.

Runyan seemed no worse, certainly, and I'd venture that most of the five sacks O'Korn took were on him for not getting rid of the ball. I wonder what happened in practice for the sudden switch and Runyan's move to guard. Any deficiencies Runyan had relative to the other guys were probably a mirage.

Ruiz is just starting? Onwenu got a couple snaps last week and warmed up like he was completely healthy this week... on the second team line. Cesar Ruiz continued to start at RG. He's played well for the most part but struggled against Wisconsin; I'm surprised that Onwenu didn't reclaim his job.

That's probably a distinction without a difference moving forward since Ruiz is as holy a lock to start at center next year and that should find Onwenu back in the starting lineup.

DEFENSE

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[Fuller]

Backs broken late, as per usual. Ohio State started with 5 three and outs on 7 drives and had 126 yards of total offense halfway through the third quarter. From there: 78 yard TD drive, 47 yard FG drive, 34 yard missed FG, and a three-play, 66 yard TD drive that was a four-minute drill that got out of hand.

How much of that is Michigan getting tired and how much is a couple of individual bad plays and dumb luck in OSU's favor is in the eye of the beholder. The first TD mentioned above featured a third-and-thirteen conversion that Haskins threw into coverage, but Brandon Watson whiffed on his attempt to PBU. That's pictured above; it is just a dumb thing that happened. Haskins then broke the pocket and ran for 22 yards to set up the TD.

Both of the following drives saw Michigan give up a big chunk of yardage on a basic drag route that Metellus was unable to contest or even tackle on, thus setting up the field goal attempts. Then Michigan stiffened and got stops; it was enough to give the offense two shots at a comeback.

The insult-to-injury TD drive at the end was academic. And who wouldn't be out of fight at that point? Before that business at the end OSU had under 300 yards. That's enough for a Speight or Peters offense.

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[Fuller]

FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU. JT Barrett delivered the above ball directly to Josh Metellus, who read it and pulled off his receiver to go intercept the ball. He did not intercept it. OSU scored a couple plays later to turn 14-0 to 14-7; if Metellus clears the first level of defenders Barrett's probably putting him out of bounds at the 30 or 40 or even midfield. This is the standout play that coulda shoulda won the game even with the QB play.

Scrambles. Other than the Metellus drag routes mentioned above Michigan's biggest problem on defense was a bunch of man coverage against mobile quarterbacks and broken pockets. Mo Hurst was frequently very close to sacking the opposition but pushed just past the QB. At that point he's past the QB and there's a huge gap up the middle. Barrett and Haskins were both all but invited to rip off somewhere between 9 and 20 yards and did so. I don't think many, if any of these events were actually holds—unless we're using the "Ben Bredeson on a pull" standard the refs used against Michigan—but just Hurst gambling he could make a play and not making it.

The other main thing. OSU found its footing in the second quarter by using a lot of empty backfield runs for Barrett; most of these were QB power right at Winovich, who got washed down the line consistently. Michigan seemed to adjust after OSU's first two TD drives, or OSU just went away from it in anticipation of an adjustment.

A big play; a big bust. Khaleke Hudson had a monster TFL on the edge where he blew through two tacklers and all but ended an OSU drive in the first quarter. He also seems like the guy who blew an assignment on the wide open TE touchdown in the second quarter.

OSU would come back to that later in the game and Hudson forced Barrett to try to fit it in a tiny window that he missed. Up and down day for Hudson, but that'll happen when you are starting a ton of underclassmen. Michigan's defense was good for one or two of those a game this year—thus their tendency to dominate opponents except for ten points worth of offense. 

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[Eric Upchurch]

Ol' Woods. J'Marick Woods only made a cameo in this game since he was knocked out shortly after Kinnel was, but that was enough time to flash his talent, and establish why is non-nickname is "Woods," for Perd Hapley reasons. OSU broke JK Dobbins into the open field; Woods came up and stopped him dead at about six yards. I'd venture that nobody has been able to stick the slippery Dobbins like that all year.

He did something to his back while doing this and was thus unable to follow up on an impressive start. Still, he's had a few of those this year and nothing alarming in various snaps spotting dinged up starting safeties. He's on track to be a backup everyone's comfortable with next year and has emerged as the clear favorite to replace Kinnel in 2019.

SPECIAL TEAMS

For a small fee, I will be publicly skeptical about punt returns weekly. Just five dollars to see me humiliate myself on a weekly basis by asserting that Donovan Peoples-Jones shouldn't be returning punts.

Blocked extra point. Another missed XP doesn't exactly soothe #collegekickers concerns entering bowl prep.

MISCELLANEOUS

Let's get the ref bonin' talk right. I haven't had the stomach to go back over the game in detail yet; I've seen enough on the internet to think that yes, Michigan got absolutely boned by the referees. But let's get something straight. This item I've seen being passed around is not holding against the guy trying to block Hurst. At least, if I saw this called during a UFR I would be shocked:

Hurst puts himself on one side of that OL and tries to get around him. OL is trying to block and suddenly has Hurst at a 90 degree angle; he's grabbing but ends up pushing Hurst upfield, past where he wants to go. You almost never see pushing called a hold. Pulling, yes. Pushing, even while grabbing a guy, is almost always legal.

HERE

Best And Worst:

With Michigan within striking distance in the 4th quarter, I saw people complain that Michigan went away from the running game. But if you look at the playcalls, that wasn't the case. After O'Korn got sacked and then completed a nice little screen to McDoom for the first, Michigan ran the ball for 9, 3, and 9 yards again. On the next play, O'Korn was trying to hand the ball off when he was stepped on by one of his linemen; that probably would have been for another first. On the next two downs Michigan threw the ball, but they still tried to engage the backs. Evans was wide open on that 4th down, and could have easily busted it for a big gain had the ball gotten to him. For the game, Evans led all receivers with 5 catches (3 if you ignore the last two on the final, meaningless drive), including a great catch-and-run in the redzone that set up Michigan's first score. Going forward, I hope the recent uptick in Evans's receptions (11 receptions in the last 6 games after having 3 previously) is a sign he'll provide that element to the offense going forward. And Higdon, despite some clear limitations due to lingering injuries, ran the ball aggressively and effectively. He should probably be the feature back next year, with Evans providing some change-of-pace plus good hands out of the backfield, and guys like Samuels and Walker grabbing carries as needed.

And credit should go to the offensive line's run-blocking efforts. That Wisconsin game looks more like an outlier than a harbinger of doom, as Michigan was able to get a consistent push against a talented OSU front. Like the rest of the team, they've made strides being legitimately good at opening holes for these backs, and while losing Cole will hurt that effort next year, we've seen enough from Ruiz, Onwenu, and JBB to have some confidence the interior of this line will be able to move bodies effectively going forward.

A look at some rebuilding seasons:

As Brian succinctly stated in his season preview, "This is a transition year between The Year and The Year, unless it isn't." And while many fans donned their maize-colored glasses in the preseason prediction threads, hoping for the lucky breaks to go our way en route to another 10-win season, the fancystats suggested that it was more likely to be a rebuilding year. Bill C. prognosticated before the season that "this program is probably a year away from ignition."

"They'll have to get lucky on a couple freshmen and one right tackle, but teams have been luckier. Just not Michigan." -Brian Cook

For innumerable reasons (some within and many out of the team's control), alllllllll of which have been very clearly hashed out on this site, this was, in fact, a rebuilding season. The issue now becomes whether or not this was a "successful" rebuilding season. The MGoStaff posed themselves the question "are we on track?" The answers ranged from "mostly, yes" to "of course, yes." Ace compared the roster this year to the projected one for next season and concluded, "This year hasn’t been very fun. Next year will be."

Comments

Ziff72

November 27th, 2017 at 1:44 PM ^

I heard that off hand comment about Gary's shoulder in the podcast and I wondered with all the "Insider" talk about Peters being a bust how did I miss this?

Sam1863

November 27th, 2017 at 2:43 PM ^

There was one first-half play where Gary had Barrett squared up on third-down, only to see JT spin off him and get the first down. I screamed all sorts of invective on that one. How can Rashan Gary miss that tackle?

His shoulder, dummy. I was reminded of the shoulder problem the next day.

Sorry, Rashan. My turn to be an asshole, I guess.

mGrowOld

November 27th, 2017 at 2:14 PM ^

First tailgate in almost four years and nothing has changed.  Same brain-dead idiot who screamed "FIRE DICKROD" after one play (true story) that went for no game in 2010 was swearing and spitting about JOK post-game.  This "fan" is the cousin of the tailgate host, never went to school anywhere (much less Michigan), and probably has the IQ of a turnip if he was actually tested.  Wore camo (naturally), uses the F-word in every sentence and is about as athletic as Mary Sue Coleman BUT he knows bad QB play and was letting everyone know how unacceptable it was to him that JOK cost us the game.

I asked him if I told my cat to build a space ship and gave the cat an hour to build it who's at fault when I come back in an hour and dont have a shiny new spaceship all ready to go?  Me or the cat?  I reminded this mouth-breather that JOK is JOK and he should've NEVER been put in that situation and to get angry at him for not building the spaceship is lunacy.  And this was before I saw the heartbraking presser afterwards.

My guess is cousin is one of those posters you're referring to Brian if not here than somewhere else.   

UMFanStuckInIA

November 27th, 2017 at 4:49 PM ^

I am included in the 57% majority that would rather see the comments disabled than suffer through being forced to sift through the trash in order to find the intelligent and redeeming content.  

We traveled to AA for our first game in about three years and our first opportunity to be a part of "The Game."  I was suprised that my experience with Ohio fans was mostly pleasant.  However, sitting in Section 20, I was quickly reminded of who the people posting behind anonymous screen names on this site are in real life.  My section was filled with ruthless and vulgar JOK haters and it was very apparent they knew little about the game and almost certainly never played it.  

Watching JOK in the pregame and on the sidelines you are able to see the kid has physical skills.  He can sling the football and has better than average athleticism.  It is truly amazing to witness a college athlete thrust into a moment that was just too big for him.  I feel badly for the situation he finds himself in today but he never had a shot.  Excited for what is to come with our defensive talent and a Peters / McCaffrey led offense.  Patience will be rewarded.

umchicago

November 27th, 2017 at 6:55 PM ^

which i almost never do at games or in public, but those goddamn officials!!!  i sit a few rows behind the opponents bench, so i know those bastards can hear me. 

none of my ranting was directed toward JOK.  i have real problems with that and/or booing the team.

ChuckieWoodson

November 27th, 2017 at 2:38 PM ^

Easy to be a internet tough guy these days, that's for sure.  I get people are probably a bit drunk and pissed, especially after the last 10 years... but throwing hatred at a player that tries his best (and obviously cares a great deal) is just really fucked up. 

Armbuster

November 27th, 2017 at 6:31 PM ^

I told off a couple people in the student section for yelling messed up shit. By the end of the game I was angrier at some of our students than the four girls from Ohio State behind me who screamed for the whole game (other than the first quarter, naturally).

ScooterTooter

November 27th, 2017 at 1:48 PM ^

In both the podcast, here and elsewhere, it has been said that the defense was tired because the offense couldn't keep the ball. 

However, when it was 20-14, Michigan had held the ball longer than Ohio State. In fact, OSU only took the lead in TOP on that drive because the defense could not get them off the field, despite OSU having to insert a RS Freshman QB on the road. 

Truthfully, while I think Don Brown is a terrific DC, there is the troubling trend of the defense giving up late scores (all three losses last year) or a touchdown immediately after the offense finally gets something going or takes a lead (Penn State, Wisconsin and Ohio State). I don't think this can actually be explained away by being tired or feeling hopeless. How can you feel hopeless when you are ahead? Or in the case of last year, yes the games could have been won had the offense done a little better, but our defense was our strength. Wouldn't you want them on the field holding a lead as opposed to the offense driving for a score? Yet each time, they allowed the final points.

I bring this up because it seems to be being ignored and I wonder if there is some sort of systemic issue that is causing this? Is it just dumb luck? Is it personnel? Is it just the other team MAKING PLAYS? 

AnthonyThomas

November 27th, 2017 at 1:54 PM ^

I'm not sure that this game reveals anything systematically wrong with the defense. Tbh, two plays stand out to me that, if both (maybe even just one) are made, Michigan wins.

The Metellus INT drop and the 50/50 ball that Haskins threw to Mack and which seemingly went through Watson's hand. 

I can't fault the defense for this game. They did enough to win even with the two plays above going against them. We watch them against the Minnesotas of the world and it looks like no one should gain a yard, and they did that to a Meyer offense with one of the most experienced QBs in college football for an entire quarter. What more can we ask for?

ScooterTooter

November 27th, 2017 at 2:06 PM ^

Right. No question the defense was awesome in the first quarter. But after that the Buckeyes were perhaps not rampant, but considerably successful. 360 yards, 31 points and 9 20+ yard plays over the last three. Numerous third down conversions. And one of their drives was snuffed out by the bad snap. 

ijohnb

November 27th, 2017 at 2:07 PM ^

I was watching the game, before the 3rd and 13, I said to myself "whoever wins this play will win the game."  The entire game had been building to that crescendo, the stadium was rocking, and to not only lose the play, but also lose a starting safety in the process, that was the single biggest play in the game and it was going to be very hard for Michigan to win after that play.  The play also gave Haskins confidence he didn't have before the play.  After that completion, he might as well have been a two year starter.

Not all plays are created equal, and not every game has that kind of play.  But that was it.  That was the play, and OSU won it.  (Ever worse, because it was actually not a completed pass and was not even reviewed). 

ijohnb

November 27th, 2017 at 2:13 PM ^

not watching that shit game again, but I am sure you can just You Tube it and find it.  It did not like come loose and roll around on the ground, but the ball certainly moved in his hands to the extent that it was clear he did not maintain control through the catch.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

November 27th, 2017 at 3:06 PM ^

Did it move, or did it hit the ground and move?

Pretty sure it was the former.  If it moves but comes to rest in the control of the player without ever hitting the ground, it's a catch.  You don't need to maintain control throughout the process of the catch - that's why it's a "process."  You just need to complete it without triggering anything that would make it an incomplete catch, that is, the ball hitting the ground.  You could lie there on the ground and pretend to be a cat with a ball of yarn as long as it never touches the ground.

AZBlue

November 27th, 2017 at 2:10 PM ^

after the O'Korn interception for sure.  I saw Metellus give a half-assed effort after he missed Weber initially on the TD and it just seemed like the energy was off on the entire drive.  Wish it didn't happen but after holding for the missed FG and giving the offense "one last shot" to win the game - that immediate gaffe had to effect the entire stadium let alone a bunch of 19-20 year olds that had been playing their hearts out.

Ironically I think the M defensive scheme is more exposed by a mobile-but-good-thrower QB like the OSU backup (or Lewerke...!@#$%^) than what JT Barrett brings to the table --- dink and dunk with a lot of QB runs and the occasional deep shot.  Kudo's to Haskins to be able to do it on the big stage after apparently being quite shaky in a mopup role the week prior.

ScooterTooter

November 27th, 2017 at 2:16 PM ^

See, I guess that's plausible for that one drive, but that shouldn't apply to any drive before it and it also presents its own problem: Why do Michigan's guys give up in games that are still winnable, even if the chance is slight? It was a 4 point game. Yeah its not likely that John O'Korn leads the game winning TD drive, but there's still a chance. Force them to punt, maybe there's a block, maybe a DPJ return. 

 

True Blue Grit

November 27th, 2017 at 2:37 PM ^

is inappropriate and not based on fact.  I'm sure it's valid to suspect they started getting tired as most players do late in big, intense games.  Or it's valid to to say Ohio  was given a gift of an easy interception giving them great field position.  Or maybe youth at certain positions did us in in crunch time.  I can't say for sure and I doubt anyone can.  But this season's lack of success was not due to the defense,  It was Michigan's inability to put enough offensive points on the board.  The MSU, Wisconsin, and OSU games all could have been won if Michigan took enough advantage of the offensive opportunities they had.  

ijohnb

November 27th, 2017 at 2:59 PM ^

think it has something to do with the way Brown coaches.  It is the opposite of a bend but don't break.  He plays a break but don't bend.  With the Michigan defense, you see two kinds of possesions from opponents.  They get absolutely smoked and punt on 3rd and 19 or they strike relatively quickly on big chunk plays.

I think Brown coaches this way because he is used to coaching inferior talent than he has now, and always used a constant downhill pressure attack to try to keep offenses reacting to him.  The only problem is that eventually offenses figure out his scheme and where is bringing pressure from and use his approach against him.  Sometimes a really good defense just needs to hang back and keep things in front of them.  Sometimes you hold a team to a field goal and that is a win.   Brown wants to push them back out of field goal range.  It is often quite spectacular, but as we are seeing it can go the other way sometimes.

 

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pryoo

November 27th, 2017 at 11:56 PM ^

I love Coach Brown as we all do, but the D has to be less predictable and better able to account for mobile quarterbacks. I don't believe our guys are so easily disheartened or poorly conditioned. Better teams will have better athletes who can exploit our aggressiveness as we've seen. I would sacrifice some of the gaudy stats to have a team that was more stout during crunch time.

Kilgore Trout

November 27th, 2017 at 3:22 PM ^

Obviously selective memory, but I can think of three scenarios where the D seemed to fold when they needed to come up witih a big stand.

1. After "the spot" last year. Maybe Harbaugh should have taken a timeout to get their heads straight, but to give up a 15 yard run for a touchdown to lose on the next play was frustrating.

2. After Peters goes down last week. Get the ball back and you're only down 4, but they let them extend the lead.

3. After the O'Korn interception Saturday. 4 point deficit to 11 in an instant. 

Kevin Holtsberry

November 27th, 2017 at 3:55 PM ^

I think this was a good but young defense.  A great defense makes plays that can change the game on its own (turnovers, critical stops, etc.).  This defense isn't in this category against quality opponents.  They have not come up with game changing turnovers and they have given up one long TD drive even to teams like Rutgers.
 
But to hold down a very talented OSU team, that destroyed MSU, for most of the game is pretty solid.  The most frustrating aspect of the defense for me is how they give up a TD drive immediately after something positive happens on offense.  OSU's drive after Michigan had taken the lead 20-14 was the maddening example on Saturday.  But there were a couple of plays that made that drive. A holding penalty on 3rd down that resulted in a first down and the infamous 3rd and 13 completion.  They also let Haskins and Barret break contain a couple of times on scoring drives.
 
But the defense played well enough to win the game. The offense had three possessions when it was a 4 point lead and couldn't score or manage more than two first downs.  If the defense holds after the O’Korn interception and OSU only gets a field goal. Michigan has the ball down 7 with 90 seconds. I guess it is possible O'Korn pulls of the touchdown drive but it doesn't seem like that last TD meant much given the circumstances that had played out.
 
As others have pointed out, Brown's aggressive defense can get busted.  And a young aggressive team doubly so.  But to me, teams are just making plays when the game is on the line.  Both Saturday and against Wisconsin their QBs stepped up with dead accurate throws on critical downs while ours either got sacked/hurt or missed wide open throws.
 
I think we need more experience in key spots on defense to truly get to that higher level.  And an offense that can get leads and grow them helps a lot too.
 

You Only Live Twice

November 27th, 2017 at 10:52 PM ^

I understand we did some of that, too, but nowhere near the level of OSU holding especially on pivotal plays.  Both JT and the backup kid ran for TDs with blatant uncalled holds on Michigan.

One of these days maybe I'll better understand the whole "HOLDING" aspect of football.  I certainly don't get it now.