snarling wolverine

March 25th, 2018 at 11:13 PM ^

I don't think even Villanova fans think of themselves as a historical blueblood.  Their '85 title is one of the great underdog stories.

As for MSU, people do not think of them as a historical power, they think of Izzo as a Hall of Fame coach.  Not the same thing.  Ditto for Nova/Jay Wright.

Incidentally, John Beilein is increasingly getting that same kind of respect around the country.  

HailHail47

March 25th, 2018 at 10:45 PM ^

I think if we win a title and go to another Final Four in the next few years we would be firmly in blue blood territory. Regardless, Beilein certainly has us on the brink of blue blood status.

Human Torpedo

March 25th, 2018 at 10:54 PM ^

Your blueblood status SOLELY on tourney success, we're as close as it gets to a blueblood aside from UConn and MSU. 51 tourney wins even minus the sanctions. Though if you factor conference dominance we lag behind a bit. 14 regular season titles and 3 conference tournament titles sounds impressive, but take Xavier for example. They now have 18 regular season titles and 10 (!!!) conference tournament titles

jmblue

March 25th, 2018 at 10:59 PM ^

Duke and North Carolina each have something like 120 all-time tournament wins.

We've done some good things (8 Final Fours) but have not sustained our success like those schools have.  We've had peaks and valleys.

(BTW, the Big Ten Tournament was established in 1998, so that isn't a fair point of comparison.)

San Diego Mick

March 25th, 2018 at 10:56 PM ^

we just had to get past that period and we're right there again.

I'll tell you what though, I prefer the type of program JB has built as opposed to one and done MSU, or maybe 2 and done and some one and dones that ended up being 4 year guys and regressing....I enjoyed typing that.

Puget Sound Blue

March 25th, 2018 at 11:03 PM ^

The article's author wants to set up the matchup as "traditional basketball power program" vs, "scrappy underdog with compelling story that everyone is is really cheering for." For that narrative to work, they call us a "blue blood".

ak47

March 25th, 2018 at 11:03 PM ^

ITT people have no idea what the concept of a blue blood is. We are not one in basketball. We are in probably the third tier and a top 20 if not top 15 school which is still damn good.

BoCanHam15

March 25th, 2018 at 11:27 PM ^

Please look up PK80 tournament. If you want to believe MSU is a blue blood and they have lost their last 4-6 games in the tournament then so be it! We don’t have that far to go from Blue Blood status then if MSU is.

ralphgoblue

March 25th, 2018 at 11:54 PM ^

Nova been around forever and they have a great resume

9th best Win% All Time

14  Elite 8s

been in the tournament 29 times since 1978

 very close to a Blue Blood

 

 

MC5-95

March 26th, 2018 at 7:23 AM ^

The media is setting up a David vs Goliath storyline to push the Loyola Cinderella story to the masses, and so we need to play our part and be the Goliath.

It’s all a bunch of bs.

BeatIt

March 26th, 2018 at 8:21 AM ^

are not the same historically, in the 70's they were UK, UNC,KU,UCLA,St Johns, Syracuse,and id say Marquette was on the fringe. I don't think UCLA passes the test in modern day basketball or curently.

CTSgoblue

March 26th, 2018 at 8:33 AM ^

Sorry to divert from ESPN, but Bleacher Report (I know) made me LOL this morning and it's not worth its own thread.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2766492-final-four-2018-full-breakdown-predictions-and-stars-to-watch

Under Villanova's "achilles heel," they wrote "opponents shoot 74.9 percent from the free-throw line."  Free throw defense!  The collective eyeroll from the advanced stats guys just threw Earth's rotation off slightly.

BuckNekked

March 26th, 2018 at 8:34 AM ^

I think the term blueblood denotes a high level of success through the decades. With Finals appearances in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s and 2010s under 4 different coaches it pushes us pretty close if not actually to that level. Sustaining success through the decades is the best indicator though. One coach on a 25 year run isnt as powerful an argument.

Dizzo

March 26th, 2018 at 8:59 AM ^

Andrea Adelson is Eric Adelson's wife, right?  She has filled in on WTKA a couple times when Eric wasn't available for the segment he usually does with Sam, if I'm remembering correctly.  So in that case, calling us a blue blood isn't that surprising since there are some connections and familiarity with Michigan.  

MC5-95

March 26th, 2018 at 10:02 AM ^

After a recent visit to the doctor, my toddler son has been interested in blood, regularly pointing to his body and asking me "Is it red in there?"

Last week instead of my usual "yes" answer, I jokingly said in response, "Heck no boy, we bleed Maize and Blue." 

So now my son is asking "Daddy, is it blue in there?"

Damn straight it's blue in there.

Eng1980

March 26th, 2018 at 11:32 AM ^

We are the only FF team that did not play a top seed (1-4) to get to the final four.  

We are a three so we couldn't play a three.  Gonzaga lost a starter and lost to another team.

We beat the teams that beat the 1, 2 and the 3.

Little darling Loyola (an early favorite of mine to make "some" noise) was under seeded and was favored to beat Miami.  Beating Nevada was a mild upset and they did it handily.  They beat the three seed on a despiration shot.  We would be favored over Tennessee.

While I respect any team with a 14-game win streak, I don't think their path was terribly impressive or that the Wolverines' path was easy.

 

M-Dog

March 26th, 2018 at 6:29 PM ^

Michigan is a step below blue blood, but our record is still impressive and better than a lot of people realize:

8 Final Fours, 6 NC games (so far), and a National Championship (so far).

That's a better record than so-called "basketball schools" such as Arizona, Purdue, Georgetown, and Syracuse.