December 4th, 2017 at 7:20 PM ^
December 4th, 2017 at 7:37 PM ^
December 5th, 2017 at 9:45 AM ^
December 4th, 2017 at 9:15 PM ^
It's so played out now.
Can we take the basketball guy off the football uniforms now?
December 4th, 2017 at 7:26 PM ^
December 4th, 2017 at 7:39 PM ^
He's keeping Graham's staff. Yep, ASU gave Graham 11 million to walk away and all we are going to do is perform a bad facelift.
December 4th, 2017 at 8:02 PM ^
December 4th, 2017 at 7:26 PM ^
Going to make Lovie Smith at Illinois look good
December 4th, 2017 at 8:03 PM ^
December 4th, 2017 at 9:55 PM ^
December 4th, 2017 at 7:31 PM ^
December 4th, 2017 at 7:37 PM ^
1. 63 years old
2. No connections to Arizona State, the state of Arizona. SJSU grad when ASU last won Rose Bowl (1987, Reagan administration). Recruiting?
3. Passionate guy, but way past his prime in terms of coaching football.
4. 54-74 lifetime coaching record, 2-4 record in post-season play demonstrates #3.
5. He has never won a championship, except a butt-hair NFL AFC East division title via 9-7 record in 2002...for the NY ReJets.
6. Last coaching attempt at KC Chiefs in NFL ended with him being FIRED after 3 seasons. He went 9-7, 4-12 and 2-14. He had one year left on his 4 year, $12M contract.
As it is, Arizona State football has never had consistent success at football.
There have only been two coaches to win 10 games there in back-to-back seasons:
Frank Kush and Todd Graham.
Graham was 46-31 in 6 years with only one losing season.
For Arizona State football over the course of Bruce Synder, Dirk Koetter, Dennis Erickson and Graham, 7-5 is pretty much par.
December 4th, 2017 at 7:52 PM ^
ASU has a lot more talent than most of you realize. I imagine people around the program feel that they have underperformed with the talent that they have. Their defense specifically has some damn good players on the DL and some good LB's too. I don't understand all the hate going towards Herm to be honest. I know it's a weird hire and sometimes he seems a little over the top but if you listen to what he is saying and what they are trying to do it might actually work out. Although I do kinda worry about the delegating of everything. I mean if you don't know your coaching staff how do you even begin to delegate anything because you don't know what you have.
December 4th, 2017 at 8:51 PM ^
no one is saying ASU doesn't have talent. They do.
They have significant talent in AZ and CA to tap into for recruiting as well.
Todd Graham is douche, but he did well enough at recruiting talent, scheme and RPS to win games for ASU consistently. That's a tall order. ASU is a long-term coaching project for anyone. They have had talented coaches there that still could only muster 6-6 and 7-5 results with an odd 9 or 10 win season mixed in.
Herm Edwards has NEVER coached at the college level. He has coached some H.S. all-star games. That's pretty much it. That is a red flag.
He has zero connections with ASU except for contacts who used to be agents and business associates. Another red flag.
Since getting fired in 2008 he has been working behind a desk and camera at ESPN, Monday morning quarterbacking NFL's crap, deteriorating product. ESPN has been culling staff, including anchors. The writing was on the wall for the man. Major red flag.
I'm sure he'll deliver some great pre-game, hafltime and post-game speeches to the team. But he's not going to win any championships at ASU.
ASU never should have fired Graham.
6-3 in conference, 7-5 overall, finished 2nd in PAC-12 South behind conerence champion USC. Should have hung on to Graham (53) for 4 more years, extended him or fired him and then seek a younger, proven, up-and-coming coach or hired from within.
Herm Edwards is just a horrible choice all around.
The good news is that ASU returns 10 starters on offense except star TB Kalen Balladge and should have 7 returning starters on defense next fall.
ASU schedule looks pretty brutal with games vs Michigan State, at Washington, at USC, at Oregon and at Arizona.
December 4th, 2017 at 9:51 PM ^
December 4th, 2017 at 9:00 PM ^
As someone who watched his Jets teams each week I can add to the list that he is beyond question the worst coach in regargds to time management I have ever seen. James Franklin in a piker compared to him.
December 4th, 2017 at 9:22 PM ^
I'm nervous to even watch it.
December 4th, 2017 at 7:41 PM ^
Oh..... and there is this. The answer is zero.
Asked Ray Anderson how many candidates ASU interviewed, he did not answer. Said there were conversations with agents and others but did not feel it was appropriate to discuss.
— Doug Haller (@DougHaller) December 4, 2017
December 5th, 2017 at 9:28 AM ^
Are there no checks and balances there at all?
Guy just does what the fuck he pleases while throwing around $Millions of other people's money?
December 5th, 2017 at 11:28 AM ^
December 5th, 2017 at 1:30 PM ^
Having worked at several Fortune 500 corporations and at several Federal Government Agencies, I can tell you when somebody gets to a certain level of power they get very insulated from reality.
Everyone says yes to them all the time, and tells them how smart and unique-thinking they are.
There is nobody influential to stand next to them and whisper in their ear:
"That's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard."
December 4th, 2017 at 7:42 PM ^
This sums up the disaster presser.
-Ray Anderson introduced an agent from the same agency he used to work for as a character witness
— Ralph Amsden (@ralphamsden) December 4, 2017
-Herm Edwards called Darren Woodson "Rod"
-Herm Edwards poked fun at ASU's jerseys in front of a giant Adidas logo, & made a joke about "Devils" as if he didn't know ASU's mascot
December 4th, 2017 at 9:30 PM ^
I feel for you, Bo. But damn if this isn't going to be some good entertainment!
December 4th, 2017 at 8:00 PM ^
I love this hire. I am so exicted to watch this trainwreck
December 4th, 2017 at 8:12 PM ^
December 4th, 2017 at 8:13 PM ^
December 4th, 2017 at 9:46 PM ^
December 4th, 2017 at 8:13 PM ^
December 4th, 2017 at 9:12 PM ^
He's one of those guys that talks without saying anything.
December 4th, 2017 at 9:46 PM ^
December 4th, 2017 at 9:47 PM ^
December 4th, 2017 at 8:22 PM ^
Some serious gold in this thread nice post OR/MY
December 4th, 2017 at 9:19 PM ^
I'm not Mr. Yost. Mr. Yost actually came back in a game thread 2 weeks ago to bitch at M-Dog.
December 5th, 2017 at 9:33 AM ^
I didn't mean to piss him off. I was trying to prod him into coming back for the game threads.
December 4th, 2017 at 8:25 PM ^
December 4th, 2017 at 8:38 PM ^
On TV. Who knows how this will turn out. A lot of Power 5 programs updside down right now. Yes, we didn't have a great season, but I like where we are going forward.
GO BLUE!!
December 4th, 2017 at 9:03 PM ^
Is for Tennessee to hire Jeff Fisher and become the first CFB team in history to go 7-9
December 4th, 2017 at 9:09 PM ^
For as bad and desperate as it has gotten for Tennessee . . . they still did not hire Herm Edwards.
Tennessee 1 - ASU 0.
December 5th, 2017 at 12:32 PM ^
Or Tennessee offered Herm, but he turned them down and used it as leverage to get a bigger paycheck in Tempe.
December 4th, 2017 at 10:08 PM ^
I only worry about the big ten east. I don't really care for Dantonio, Meyer or Franklin. Can anyone stomach those guys. I mean if you had to hang out with one a whole weekend who would you chose?. You can't assault them either.
I could hang out with Herm, but he would have to cut back on the cup checks. Just hope ASU hands Dantonio another loss next year. They are not as good as they think they are.
HELLO you play to win the game. Now that is priceless. If Herm had a prime as far as coaching goes he is way past it. HELLO.
December 4th, 2017 at 10:13 PM ^
December 5th, 2017 at 9:42 AM ^
Do I need to pay a guy $3M to walk around and spout off airy inspirational quotes while everyone else does all the work?
That's Dilbert-level stuff.
December 4th, 2017 at 11:15 PM ^
December 5th, 2017 at 9:43 AM ^
Um yeah, I'll take my chances.
December 4th, 2017 at 11:27 PM ^
ASU should immediately start a reality TV show about the football program. Just follow Herm around and just keep filming.
December 5th, 2017 at 9:45 AM ^
I think Amazon is wrapping up with Harbaugh.
Send them on over to ASU.
December 5th, 2017 at 9:51 AM ^
CEO/General Manager of ASU football right there.