Fix the CFP now...please

Submitted by nappa18 on
Easy and clean. P5 champs and top ranked G5 team are in. Teams seeded 1 and 2 draw byes, teams 3-6 play week after the Army -Navy game. 4 remaining teams play on as now. What could be easier? Or fairer? An extra game possible for teams 3-6. Weekly CFP standings (and ESPN) mean little. Anyone see a problem except for the two elephants in the room, ESPN and the NCAA.
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gbdub

December 3rd, 2017 at 6:47 PM ^

But not giving autobids punishes teams in good conferences / divisions. Just like the B1G, where any of the top 3 East teams could probably go undefeated or 1 loss against Wisky’s schedule. Basically you’re hosed if you’ve got more than 2 good teams in your conference.

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PapabearBlue

December 3rd, 2017 at 10:49 AM ^

I don't have a problem with conference championships.

What I have a problem with is "team a" being a 9-3 team who lost to 3 cupcakes ooc being in the conference championship game after barely beating "team b", an 11-1 team, in triple overtime who was missing a bunch of starters due to injury for that one game but who had otherwise clobbered every team they played, including the same 3 ooc teams that "team a" beat.

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gbdub

December 3rd, 2017 at 6:50 PM ^

If you’re going to have them, they should be play in games / de facto first round of the playoffs. You certainly shouldn’t weigh a conf. championship loss very heavily - Alabama basically got rewarded for having their loss let them sit on their asses for championship week.

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missoulawolverine

December 3rd, 2017 at 10:45 AM ^

Each conference should have to play 12 conference games..none out of conference. 5 conferences champs get in..1 slot for the ucf's of that year..making a 6 team playoff with the top 2 highest rated teams getting a bye..point blank 6 team playoff cut and dry...no more cupcakes...that's been my theory for the last two years..the days of teams going undefeated is going bye bye

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ericcarbs

December 3rd, 2017 at 10:47 AM ^

So for this year, is OK or GA better? The bye week is beyond impactful so the 3 seed will want the bye and be upset they got overtaken for no reason. Same politics as today, and just as loud.

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SpilledMilk

December 3rd, 2017 at 10:51 AM ^

The committees function should only be to choose 4 conference champions out of 5 power five group and a handful of smaller conferences. That's it. Makes it a cleaner process and makes conference championship games even more important than they are now.

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mastodon

December 3rd, 2017 at 1:56 PM ^

And how important was the CCG for the champion that was left out?  8 team CFP with P5 champ auto-bids removes so much subjectivity.  Settles it on the field.  If you can't win your conference, then you don't belong - but you still have a shot at an at-large bid if you're impressive enough.  All of you who think these ridiculous arguments are "fun" can argue about the 3 at-large bids.  

How does a 4 team field make sense with 5 power conferences.  Someone's always left out, or better yet there's 2 teams from the same conference?  Anybody else sick of the same 6 teams always in the mix of the final 4?  I think with 8 teams we'd discover that those 6 aren't always the best.  Because we'd SETTLE IT ON THE FIELD.  I'd like to see USC in the mix this year.  Don't they deserve that?

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The Baughz

December 3rd, 2017 at 10:58 AM ^

Eliminate conference divisions and have the teams that finish in the top 2 play a in conference championship game. Winners are automatically in the playoff. So that would be 5 teams plus one at large to make it a 6 team playoff or maybe 3 at large to make it an 8 team. Not sure if that would work but it’s something different.

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Nuckin Futs

December 3rd, 2017 at 11:00 AM ^

Why not 4 super conferences with the conference championship game being the quarterfinals. No games added, only conference champions make the final 4, and fuck Norte Dame

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samsoccer7

December 3rd, 2017 at 11:26 AM ^

But what if each division was basically your old conference? Like the 20 team big 10 would have a 10 team division that is essentially our old big 10 and you play 9 games. Divisions winners play a champ game and those winners play in the playoff. Allows even upstarts like UCF to have a shot at making it. I’ve loved this idea for a while.

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ak47

December 3rd, 2017 at 11:02 AM ^

College football is partly amazing because every game matters. Watering that down will destroy football faster than too many commercials

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J.

December 3rd, 2017 at 1:58 PM ^

"Every game matters" is a myth.  None of UCF's games mattered this year, and, ultimately, neither did Alabama/Auburn.  OSU/Iowa mattered.  Michigan/Wisconsin didn't matter as much as Ohio State/Wisconsin.  Alabama/Mercer apparently didn't matter, but OSU/OU did.

The obsession that college football has shown with undefeated seasons is one of its biggest problems.  Say what you want about the cupcake games that fill out the basketball out-of-conference schedule -- the ACC/Big Ten Challenge is great, and so are the early-season tournaments and big out-of-conference matchups.  These only happen because nobody expects college basketball teams to go undefeated.

The current system rewards Alabama for scheduling Mercer and punishes OSU for scheduling OU.  That's not good for the sport no matter how you spin it.

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reddogrjw

December 3rd, 2017 at 11:03 AM ^

5 power 5 champs

1 G5 team

2 at large

would also encourage tougher non-conference games since if you win your conference it doesn't matter if you lost non-conference games and if you win tough non-conference games you could get an at-large

 

12/16 this year - quarterfinals, true home games for 4 higher seeds

semi-finals and finals take place as scheduled

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Year of Revenge II

December 3rd, 2017 at 12:00 PM ^

I, myself, would prefer 16 teams, but this is a well though-out  way to go to 8.  

They said going to BCS, then going to playoff, would ruin bowl games and ruin college football, just like some are saying now that going to 8 would make regular season games meaningless.  Ridiculous. Eight will happen the next time TV contract is up.

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ST3

December 3rd, 2017 at 11:05 AM ^

A six or eight team playoff would require some teams to play 16 games in a season. With the concern about CTE, exposing kids to another game of injury risk, and the questionable morality of not playing players for what is becoming more and more a full-time job, at some point I have to say enough of a good thing is enough. We've played a full season worth of games and I am convinced neither 'Bama nor OSU is the best team, but we need a 4th for this party. If one of them gets in and wins it, good for them. That's football. The best team doesn't always win. I don't think we should be giving more teams a chance to spring an upset. Does PSU, USC, and UCF (or whoever) really have a legitimate claim to being the best team?

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slimj091

December 3rd, 2017 at 11:10 AM ^

No matter how you "fix" it, or expand the playoff there will always be a team/teams that feel screwed over. The day I dread is when the CFB playoff ballons to the NCAA tournament. Then the regular season will be boring as shit because it will mean very little.

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charblue.

December 3rd, 2017 at 11:12 AM ^

football playoff, set objective standards for qualification based on a point system for wins and losses, quality wins and schedule with tiebreakers based on conference scheduling strength. Quit making this a debate between assigned parties who are elected to hold sway over the partcipants.

Stnadards aren't biased by any qualification or historical record. They are just standards, which are either met or not.

The NFL has no problem with determining how teams make their postseason tournament. And they don't even deny teams with losing records to get in. And it usually doesn't impact the leader and best team decided by the competition.

I really don't care how many teams make the playoff. Yesterday you had basically eight playoff contenders scheduled based on their qualification. If you want more competition, then qualify the lesser schools or set up a different divisional playoff for them as well.

This isn't hard to solve if people want to do it. I don't really see any official interest in finding a solution, mostly because of the bowl system, which has always complicated any college football championship.

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StirredNotShaken

December 3rd, 2017 at 11:43 AM ^

Didn't he propose a 6 team playoff years ago? It makes the most sense to me for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is that I like watching meaningful football games and this would give us another weekend of games. It would also maintain the significance of conference championship games (an 8 team system would start to diminish those results as a loser may still get in).

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BornInA2

December 3rd, 2017 at 11:45 AM ^

There is no "fixing" it. The NCAA MBB tourney is 68 teams and there's still call to "fix" it.

Teams are inconsistent and people enjoy debating these things, and the combination leads to the erroneous conclusion that something is "broken" and can be "fixed".

Just enjoy watching the games.

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Qmatic

December 3rd, 2017 at 11:48 AM ^

That are only two options I see fit: 4 16 team conferences. The conference championship games become de-facto quarterfinal games. The winners make the CFP. Or, 5 conference champions and the highest ranked in the AP Group of 5 champion. This eliminates the committee and all that bs. It will never happen because ESPN holds the keys and they thrive off the "Who's in?" mantra

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Mr Miggle

December 3rd, 2017 at 1:35 PM ^

never even be considered by those in charge. Who has the authority to say that someone is school #65 and is cut out from not only the playoffs but a ton of money? It's only a fantasy for fans playing with numbers.

How does your second option eliminate the committee? You've only gone from picking 4 teams to picking 3, the byes and the group of 5.

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