Harbaugh: John O'Korn to remain starting QB against Rutgers.
John O'Korn will remain Michigan's starting QB vs. Rutgers, Jim Harbaugh says. Brandon Peters still backup.
— Aaron McMann (@AaronMcMann) October 23, 2017
October 23rd, 2017 at 1:31 PM ^
Minnesota is a night game. Hold on to your butts.
October 23rd, 2017 at 1:35 PM ^
Ok, I'll increment my concern from negligible to this mosquito might have West Nile.
October 23rd, 2017 at 1:54 PM ^
this is all MSU hangover. . .That was probably the third most embarrassing loss after App State, and Toledo.
October 23rd, 2017 at 2:09 PM ^
You obviously missed a ton of UM football from 2008-14.
October 24th, 2017 at 12:43 PM ^
blow it out your ass
October 23rd, 2017 at 4:59 PM ^
Yes but, it appears that Michigan is also a fairly bad football team.
October 23rd, 2017 at 2:50 PM ^
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October 23rd, 2017 at 5:49 PM ^
Peters was an EE and redshirted. Even raw, he has been with the program for enough time to beat out someone with JOK season stats: 55.5% CMP%, 1 TD, 5 TO, 6.6 YPA. At what point is Peters expected to surpass that level of performance? And its not like JOK is passing the eye test.
I don't know the answer, but pretending that Peters not getting snaps isn't a bad thing seems like burying our heads in the sand.
October 23rd, 2017 at 7:18 PM ^
thats a load of crap.
Concensus 4*, and a direct quote from his hello post . .
"Peters is regarded as one of the nation's better pro-style quarterbacks, placing in the top lists on every site except Scout."
Scout - "He makes quick reads, seems to understand defenses and where his receives will be and does not hold onto the ball too long."
ESPN - "He's smart pre-snap and understands defensive coverages. Gets the ball out quickly and accurately to his receivers."
247 - "we're ready to put him in the discussion among the nation's top passers."
Yep, a real project.
I don't know what happened to him or where the quarterback almost universally lauded has gone, but i hope he shows up someday soon.
October 24th, 2017 at 8:35 AM ^
that if you were at the Spring game, Peters was by far the best QB on the field that day. Great arm and ran for a 20 yard TD. I had a great view of the warmups last Saturday from my skybox (oh yeah - the Michigan section at PSU in the clouds), and Peters arm is just far better than any other QB on our roster. His outs and deep throws just get to receivers faster and jsut as accurate ... he just needs game experience.
Go Blue!
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:30 PM ^
Probably doesn't matter one way or the other.
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:33 PM ^
think O'Korn will get some good time to get more comfortable against Rutgers, Minnesota and Maryland (I think we will win all of them easily) and perform well against Wisconsin and OSU. He played well for a lot of the first half this weekend and made some good throws and ran more effectively. He was down 14-0 on the road in a snake pit before he could blink. Penn State is just really good this year and played a great game.
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:37 PM ^
If Michigan wins the next 3 comfortably, Wisco could be an intereting game considering their schedule leaves much to be desired.
I wouldn't get my hopes up much. I learned my lesson from Penn State.
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:42 PM ^
of football to be played before the Wisconsin game. I know that O'Korn got the bye week after Purdue, but then he got a hot plate of MSU at night in a monsoon, #ChaosTeam on the road, and a really good Penn State team coming off a bye week. Not exactly what you need to ease your way in to things. The offensive line issues are not going to be fixed overnight, but I think our offense will be playing much better and more consistently when we go to Madison.
October 23rd, 2017 at 1:09 PM ^
I want you to tell me with all of the evidence we have, what makes you believe O'Korn will play well against OSU and Wisconsin? Both of whom are the two best defenses we will play.
October 23rd, 2017 at 1:54 PM ^
think that Penn State pounced on us right away with explosive play-making that put us in a serious hole. While the deficit proved too much to overcome, O'Korn lead two pretty impressive first half drives, made some pretty damn good throws, and started thinking a lot less. He began to use his legs when plays were well covered, he probably did it a little too much, but I think he will get an opportunity get more comfortable with the receivers and the routes in the next few weeks against far inferior defenses that he has faced in the last three weeks. It also gives our young recievers three more weeks to develop with their understanding of the offense without the lights shining on them as bright as they have been. I also thought that our first down playcalling became more aggressive when the game was still within reach and that if that continues O'Korn will prove quite a bit more effective throwing on early downs.
Penn State blew it open in the fourth quarter on Saturday, but it was a 21-13 game at halftime and they played out of their minds. I am not here to tell you that Saturday was good, by any means, but O'Korn brought the team back to basically tie the game right before halftime and made some really nice throws along the way. That place was up for grabs and we had absolutely no momentum whatsoever. I thought that feat was impressive enough on its own.
October 23rd, 2017 at 1:54 PM ^
Yeah, O'Korn did the same thing he's always done, even on the touchdown drives. Stare down first read and throw if open. If not, run. Even his "impressive" throws people are referencing, if you watch his eyes he is staring down one receiver. O'Korn supporters have kind of touted this game as him playing well and showing growth. The fact of the matter is, he didn't hit 6 YPA, we didn't score in the second half and for the third straight week, we do not have a passing touchdown.
Dunking on Rutgers, Maryland, and Minnesota doesn't mean anything juxtaposed against OSU and Wisconsin, as evidence as last year. And with O'Korn under center I don't think we dunk on those three teams, in the air at least. May still run the ball well.
October 23rd, 2017 at 2:02 PM ^
is becoming increasing clear that it is O'Korn v. Crickets for the starting QB position for the rest of this year so I guess I am going to be an O'Korn supporter.
October 23rd, 2017 at 3:11 PM ^
Great. Then why the fuck was he still in at 42-13 with a few minutes to go if there is that much of a gap between quarterbacks? How is that smart? How is that best for the team for this year?
October 23rd, 2017 at 3:34 PM ^
our discussion above about Peters "not being ready." I don't buy that narrative and I don't think the issue at the moment is ability. I think there is something else at play. Read a couple transcripts of press conferences where Harbaugh is addressing the Peters situation. It is like he is all of the sudden not speaking English. He says things like "progress is being made to happen with the backup QB situation." Whatever is going on it is really unusual.
October 23rd, 2017 at 3:45 PM ^
Correct. This isn't about ability like some are trying to make this out to be. In fact, Peters is the most talented quarterback on the roster and McCaffrey is next, both better than JOK and Speight from a talent standpoint. However, I believe and have been told something else is at play. It has nothing to do with him being "ready."
Peters should have been in last week's game in the 4th quarter. Period. And he should be either starting the Rutgers game or be getting at least multiple series. However, if I had to bet money on it, I would say he will be a transfer after the season or more specifically after the winter semester.
October 23rd, 2017 at 5:32 PM ^
I guess I am going to be an O'Korn supporter.If your were from Oakland and were a baseball fan you'd be an athletic supporter.
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:35 PM ^
but if Peters doesn't play meaningful snaps on Saturday, I think he transfers after this year. Just makes no fucking sense
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:37 PM ^
If Dylan is the unquestioned starter going into ND then Peters would probably start thinking about the transfer option.
October 23rd, 2017 at 1:59 PM ^
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October 23rd, 2017 at 12:38 PM ^
a few series, couple in each half would be a good game plan...
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:39 PM ^
I'm not as mad about this as I used to be -- Peters would probably just stay a backup to McCaffrey anyway
October 23rd, 2017 at 3:48 PM ^
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October 23rd, 2017 at 1:02 PM ^
was not his intention to go year to year with a new QB. He thought he was going to be in the second year of a three year starter. It is also very possible that Speight will be the QB next year if his fracture heals correctly.
October 23rd, 2017 at 1:30 PM ^
Your last sentence makes me cringe when considering the prospects for 2018 victories. If a patched up, duct taped Wilton Speight is all JH can trot out there as the starting QB in year 4 of the Harbaugh era, heaven help us.
October 23rd, 2017 at 1:38 PM ^
Speight played really good last year before his injury. He was also 3-0 this season before his injury with youth everywhere at WR and TE. He was also learning some new aspects to the offense with Hamilton. Losing Black, who had become easily his favorite target, was a tough break too. He struggled to begin the game against Purdue but chances are he would have done enough to win that game. I very seriously doubt we would have lost to State with Speight still playing. PSU would have still beaten us but after playing them I am not sure PSU is going to lose until they play Alabama.
October 23rd, 2017 at 1:44 PM ^
O'Korn is 2-0 against terrible teams. He's gonna make it 5-0 after we beat Rutgers, Minny, and Maryland.
Speight was bad bad bad this season.
October 23rd, 2017 at 1:58 PM ^
he had a rough start to the season, (if you consider blowing out Florida "rough") and struggled with footwork and timing with brand new recievers. Given that he only played one half of one quarter in the BIG season I don't think we can really judge him on this year.
October 23rd, 2017 at 3:26 PM ^
October 23rd, 2017 at 4:56 PM ^
He threw a pick six that hit his WR in the hands. If you want to count that against him, fine.
October 23rd, 2017 at 4:14 PM ^
of winning in spite of the qb
October 23rd, 2017 at 2:30 PM ^
October 23rd, 2017 at 2:14 PM ^
This is 100% true.
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:41 PM ^
Why would anyone want to see Peters behind this O Line? Do you hate Peters and want him damaged like Devin Gardner?
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:42 PM ^
I wasn't expecting Peters to start against Rutgers. I would like to see him get in the game on a few consecutive (non-garbage time) drives.
Peters is a red shirt freshmen on a team that is 5-2. It might be a little early for transfer talk. Malzone is still on the team, fergodsakes.
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:44 PM ^
October 23rd, 2017 at 1:09 PM ^
2019 Starting QB: Peters or McCaffrey. If it is McCaffrey, Peters will Grad transfer for 2020.
October 23rd, 2017 at 3:15 PM ^
It won't happen that way. I can say with pretty good certainty he isn't waiting another full year.
October 23rd, 2017 at 1:29 PM ^
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:44 PM ^
I understand that Harbaugh is going to play the personnel that give us the best chance to win, and he sticks to that, but now it forces me to wonder just where is Peters developmentally if that person in his mind is John O'Korn? I know that there was a story from Balas that Peters may very well not be quite what folks thought he was, so I am actually finding myself wondering if there is some substance to that story.
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:50 PM ^
Peters has the basic skill set to run a scaled-down version of Harbaugh's offense. He's listed as #2 now. I don't know how Peters is developing but I haven't seen multiple confirmations there is a problem other than inexperience. Maybe Harbaugh thinks O'Korn might break through whatever is going on with him and take it to the next level?